I will definitely agree with you about holding off on the GPU for a while at least. Come week of Thanksgiving onward towards Xmas though grab the best deal you can because non sale prices should be stabalized by then. During that time the hunt is on for special holiday sales whenever you can find them. Other components will be a different story. It will depend on where you are (Microcenter in store sales will be sweet) and what it is you are buying.
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I will definitely agree with you about holding off on the GPU for a while at least. Come week of Thanksgiving onward towards Xmas though grab the best deal you can because non sale prices should be stabalized by then. During that time the hunt is on for special holiday sales whenever you can find them. Other components will be a different story. It will depend on where you are (Microcenter in store sales will be sweet) and what it is you are buying.
DIGISTOR ODD DEAL UPDATE:
Digistor is now offering 2 coupon codes for M1 backers buying factory-authorized Panasonic slimline slot-load drives. Both drives are OEM (no software, no cables), and carry a 1-year warranty. Software, cables & blank media are also available before check-out if anyone needs them. Shipping over $75 is free in the US (48 contiguous states), and there is a shipping estimator for any international orders (or for any US orders under $75) - see estimates below.
- PANASONIC UJ-8C5 (DVD) $45 -- Code: HF8C5M1
- PANASONIC UJ-265 (BLURAY) $105 -- Code: HF265M1
Digistor's regular price on the UJ-265 is $129, and their regular price on the UJ-8C5 is $59. Forms of payment are Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover & PayPal.
For shipping, I ran the estimator a few times to give everyone some ballpark ideas of what shipping charges should be (used random zip codes, so your mileage may vary).
US over $75 (USPS Priority): FREE
US under $75 (USPS Priortity): $7
Australia (FedEx Int'l Economy): $36
Canada (FedEx Int'l Economy): $27
UK (FedEx Int'l Economy): $35
DISCOUNT CODES EXPIRE IN 2 WEEKS (11/8/2013)
If [H] rules allow, I will try to PM everyone that has previously expressed interest in this deal with the same details above so no one misses out. EDIT: All PM's sent.
* Just a disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with DIGISTOR/SLI, and I just placed my own order for a UJ-265 Bluray! In my opinion, it is incredibly nice of them to offer our community a volume discount in this manner, so please show your support
EDIT: Holy geez, my ODD shipped w/tracking already - woot!
Thanks for this, AFD. So with the code the BR unit is $105? I'll probably wait until November 5th and see if anything better pops up. If not I'll take the plunge on two units in support.
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Could you provide a link ?
AFD
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Very welcome! Yes, the BR burner w/code is $105 with free US shipping. You may be able to find it a few bucks cheaper (depending on shipping), but it seems unlikely that you will find anyplace else offering a 1-year warranty (just 1-month every place I've seen, or none at all from ebay probably). Many shops are still selling this drive for $150+ (think Digistor's price was close to that a month ago).
I really hope their deal is successful here, since their offer was incredibly fair and they just as easily could've told me to take a hike when I mentioned the M1 project.
If you go for one of the Digistor deals, they have one there you can add-on for $6..
http://www.digistor.com/Accessories/Adapters-and-Cables/Digistor-Slimline-SATA-to-7-pin-SATA-Conversion-Cable
Since I'm probably going all-black with my cables, I'm either getting the similar style Silverstone CP10..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162016
Or maybe, the Startech slim-to-regular adapter..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200470
Haven't really decided on cables yet, but those slim-SATA ones are available everywhere (EDIT: Amazon, Newegg, MC, Fry's, etc.. but not at like walmart or anything, lol)
Thanks for the PM. The cost of the drive after shipping to australia is close to what ebay offers. Warranty is certainly longer, but still an international affair, but to show support, I am comfortable to purchase from them when I come to deciding if I want the bluray option installed.
Thanks again to AFD and Digistor
Thanks again to AFD and Digistor
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Agreed with you. Guess I will wait for the right time. Thanks to AFD for the PM.
Any updates on the video? What does the frosted acrylic look like?
Thank you. that H81 will suit my needs, might even overclock a bit now that ECS unlocked their H81 BIOS.
Still wont get USB3 on the front ports but with that converter that AFD suggested I will atleast get them working with USB2.
Necere, It is not so easy to find a quality SFX PSU in Brazil. Have you tried to fit a regular ATX PSU and a normal 2 slot GPU card? I´m wondering if it is reasonable.
I was looking for your pictures and I´m in doubt. I´m planning to use just 2 ssd in space of optical drive.
Necere, It is not so easy to find a quality SFX PSU in Brazil. Have you tried to fit a regular ATX PSU and a normal 2 slot GPU card? I´m wondering if it is reasonable.
I was looking for your pictures and I´m in doubt. I´m planning to use just 2 ssd in space of optical drive.
I believe atx + gpu is okay as long as the psu is not obscenely long and is non-modular.
Yes - that's what the picture on the left shows. The case comes with a separate bracket for it that replaces the SFX bracket.
It's important to emphasize that the case was not originally designed to support ATX power supplies, and doing so comes with some limitations:
- If used with any card longer than 200mm, the PSU can not be longer than 140mm, and must also be non-modular (the extra length of the modular plugs would run into the card). This limitation is lifted when using shorter cards, or when using the card in the second slot (possible with certain DTX motherboards, e.g., those from ECS). In the former case (short GPU), a modular 160mm long PSU could be used. In the latter case (long card one slot down), it would still be limited, but +20mm, i.e., modular 140mm or non-modular 160mm.
- ATX power supplies typically come with a lot more cables than will easily fit inside the case. If you're not planning to mod the cables, I would really recommend against even trying to fit it all in.
- Using an ATX PSU precludes the use of the dual 3.5" HDD cage or dual rad mounted to the side bracket.
For the CD drive...
I bought a slimline sata adapter cable before, so I will be cutting mine up along with an existing sata cable to give me a mostly black sata cable.
Power will be tapped off the 5V line from the last sata power cable off the silverstone SFX Psu. This is because there are only 3 sata ports, all intended to be used by my hdds. (OSx ssd, Win7 ssd, Storage hdd).
Cant wait as I need to install the parts into the computer to know what exact dimensions I need.
Regarding Noise
(Disclaimer, I am aware that I can be classified as one of those who are nuts about computer sound level. My listening environment is fairly quiet. I am in a quieter room, relatively quiet suburb and I can just hear trees rustling though closed windows. I acknowledge that my definition of quiet will be better than dead silent for others, so for some my comments may seem excessive, but for others, this information might be useful
I have bought the Silverstone SFX 450 Gold, V2. I find the PSU fan Quite loud at idle still. The noise of the PSU fan is a combination of both wind noise, higher pitched blade buffeting against the grille (symptomatic of small high rpm fans), loud ticking from the motor, and a degree of resonance though vibrations.
I also bought the Noiseblocker PC-P fan, the recommended 80x15 mm silent fan replacement, and for a $20 fan, it was very disappointing. Although the wind noise is reduced, and the ticking is reduced somewhat, this fan was still almost as noisy. The ticking was still the loudest part, with this fan still the loudest component at light loads. Idle noise is a little more bearable, but only for the first 10 minutes. After the PSU heats up, it doesn't slow back down very much for half an hour, so continues to be the loudest component. Under load it really ramps up and sounds like an angry ticking jet. Even when externally mounted, using the vibration gasket, and speed reducing resistors, the fan still continues to be a noise machine, and the temps for the PSU exhaust started creeping up past 40 deg C.
So out it comes. And in goes a Noctua 80x25mm (on the outside). This fan is noticeably quieter, but I guess unsurprisingly still creates a fair amount of whooshing due to its smaller size, and a mild ticking sound. Speed reducing resistors help with noise significantly, but again, temps suffer.
So back to the cutting board, I prepare a 120-80mm adapter to install a 120mm fan. This setup also encourages the use of the side panel for fresh air intake. This fan can now run at much lower RPMs while the size of the fan provides the much needed pressure and volume to maintain sufficient air flow to the PSU. This is now officially silent enough to be called silent in my books (quieter than a 2.5" hdd). Using a Scythe Kama Flow 2 fan, with its low startup voltage and the Noctua LNA, the fan runs somewhere between 400 - 1000 rpm at idle and full load (Prime and Furmark, i5 4570, GTX670 Asus)
This solution is not for everyone, as it takes up the space for the 3.5" hdd. Due to space limitations, I have already accepted that I will use only 2.5" drives, and in this situation, this works well. All I need to do now is to wait for the case so that I can give that GPU some breathing room.
I bought a slimline sata adapter cable before, so I will be cutting mine up along with an existing sata cable to give me a mostly black sata cable.
Power will be tapped off the 5V line from the last sata power cable off the silverstone SFX Psu. This is because there are only 3 sata ports, all intended to be used by my hdds. (OSx ssd, Win7 ssd, Storage hdd).
Cant wait as I need to install the parts into the computer to know what exact dimensions I need.
Regarding Noise
(Disclaimer, I am aware that I can be classified as one of those who are nuts about computer sound level. My listening environment is fairly quiet. I am in a quieter room, relatively quiet suburb and I can just hear trees rustling though closed windows. I acknowledge that my definition of quiet will be better than dead silent for others, so for some my comments may seem excessive, but for others, this information might be useful
I have bought the Silverstone SFX 450 Gold, V2. I find the PSU fan Quite loud at idle still. The noise of the PSU fan is a combination of both wind noise, higher pitched blade buffeting against the grille (symptomatic of small high rpm fans), loud ticking from the motor, and a degree of resonance though vibrations.
I also bought the Noiseblocker PC-P fan, the recommended 80x15 mm silent fan replacement, and for a $20 fan, it was very disappointing. Although the wind noise is reduced, and the ticking is reduced somewhat, this fan was still almost as noisy. The ticking was still the loudest part, with this fan still the loudest component at light loads. Idle noise is a little more bearable, but only for the first 10 minutes. After the PSU heats up, it doesn't slow back down very much for half an hour, so continues to be the loudest component. Under load it really ramps up and sounds like an angry ticking jet. Even when externally mounted, using the vibration gasket, and speed reducing resistors, the fan still continues to be a noise machine, and the temps for the PSU exhaust started creeping up past 40 deg C.
So out it comes. And in goes a Noctua 80x25mm (on the outside). This fan is noticeably quieter, but I guess unsurprisingly still creates a fair amount of whooshing due to its smaller size, and a mild ticking sound. Speed reducing resistors help with noise significantly, but again, temps suffer.
So back to the cutting board, I prepare a 120-80mm adapter to install a 120mm fan. This setup also encourages the use of the side panel for fresh air intake. This fan can now run at much lower RPMs while the size of the fan provides the much needed pressure and volume to maintain sufficient air flow to the PSU. This is now officially silent enough to be called silent in my books (quieter than a 2.5" hdd). Using a Scythe Kama Flow 2 fan, with its low startup voltage and the Noctua LNA, the fan runs somewhere between 400 - 1000 rpm at idle and full load (Prime and Furmark, i5 4570, GTX670 Asus)
This solution is not for everyone, as it takes up the space for the 3.5" hdd. Due to space limitations, I have already accepted that I will use only 2.5" drives, and in this situation, this works well. All I need to do now is to wait for the case so that I can give that GPU some breathing room.
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lettuceman44
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Great way for Swiftech to get around that patent lawsuit.
Also, has there been a consensus yet on the benefits or lack of benefits of adding a 120mm rad on the bottom of the case?
This thread is so huge, and I'm so late in the game that I've missed so much information.
Anyone? The curiosity is killing me, I need to know.
I went through the last 200 pages lol.
Almighty ODST
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I'm taking the mindset of "wait until people get it and test it". Physics be damned, it'll be easiest just to test it when people get their cases. On a theoretical basis, you'll have more heat dissipation with an extra rad. Whether we see any real world benefit to one 120mm thin rad with a single 12mm fan remains to be seen.
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My current experiences with the slim fans (or any fan for that matter) would have me worried about suffocation of the fans. Mostly on the intake side of the fans. you need at least 5 - 10mm of space on the intake side before the fans start to actually pull air rather than just create noise. I am not convinced that a rad on the bottom will really be maximised, therefore it may provide benefit, but I would not expect it to scale up linearly.
I was thinking about it for so long, I managed to justify an immediate purchase of the components due to no new components expected before Q1 2014, and the increasing price of components?!.
I have learnt many things building my cardboard case. I'm up to V2 of the cardboard case, and although I think out and research the build A LOT before buying, its interesting to see how different your perspective is when you have the components in hand, and running.
Case Dimensions 160x295x230, 6.25"x11.5"x9" not including feet.
Hole pattern to represent the % of restriction by the real case, but upsized to make it possible to cut manually in a reasonable amount of time.
CPU fans are off. LOVE this asrock mobo and its BIOS fan controls. GPU fans are thermally controlled by a DIY circuit, tied to GPU heatsink temperature rather than CPU, so fans actually cool the GPU as required. Also off at idle
See the 120mm adapter for the PSU. Yay for silence.
Nay for the suffocation of the GPU fans. Will have to wait and see what another 10mm gives me under the GPU with the real case. Its going for Slim fans, vs full thickness fans, vs suffocation of GPU fans.
I was thinking about it for so long, I managed to justify an immediate purchase of the components due to no new components expected before Q1 2014, and the increasing price of components?!.
I have learnt many things building my cardboard case. I'm up to V2 of the cardboard case, and although I think out and research the build A LOT before buying, its interesting to see how different your perspective is when you have the components in hand, and running.
Case Dimensions 160x295x230, 6.25"x11.5"x9" not including feet.
Hole pattern to represent the % of restriction by the real case, but upsized to make it possible to cut manually in a reasonable amount of time.
CPU fans are off. LOVE this asrock mobo and its BIOS fan controls. GPU fans are thermally controlled by a DIY circuit, tied to GPU heatsink temperature rather than CPU, so fans actually cool the GPU as required. Also off at idle
See the 120mm adapter for the PSU. Yay for silence.
Nay for the suffocation of the GPU fans. Will have to wait and see what another 10mm gives me under the GPU with the real case. Its going for Slim fans, vs full thickness fans, vs suffocation of GPU fans.
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DiabloRojo
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Yes you can get the H220 from NCIX in the US. I snagged one on sale last month amid schoolgirl-ish giggles.
Just have to decide if its going in the black or silver M1...
...or cardboard
Someone else wrote recently that they have a ticking noise. I don't have this (listen here NB-PCP and stock cooler here). Very unusual to have ticking noise on three different fans. Is it possible that there is something loose inside the PSU that is flapping around due to the airflow?
The_Cheese
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I got mine from Performance PCs... Here's a link to the page where they keep the adapters: Slim Drive Adapters
This is neither an endorsement of nor advertising for the vendor in question. I personally used this vendor because they had the parts I needed. Use at your own risk.
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That is a very accurate mock-up of the NCase, cardboard construction notwithstanding.
You've done your homework well; I would say that you'd be able to transplant that system directly into the real deal without much difficulty.
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With a cardboard case like that why even bother with the actual M1?
Hell, I'm sure he has put more hours into testing than "introduct case producer here
" in most of their cases.Regarding Noise
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This is very interesting to me. Thank you for sharing this info. Looks like I'll be squeezing a 120 mm fan in between the rad and psu.
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After seeing the cardboard M1... I'm wondering...
How not recommended is it to use a dual fan GPU rather than a blower type?
I've really been skimping on my GPU selection because I been trying to look for blowers only.
What if I use a dual fan and use both 120mm fan mounts on the case floor as intakes?
How not recommended is it to use a dual fan GPU rather than a blower type?
I've really been skimping on my GPU selection because I been trying to look for blowers only.
What if I use a dual fan and use both 120mm fan mounts on the case floor as intakes?
If you stick with nVidia's cooler running cards or use an AMD card that isn't as hot as the 7970 and don't plan on OCing the GPU or CPU, it should be okay. I don't think using a GPU with a dual fan cooler + 2x120mm intake fans would be recommended though. The turbulence from the different size fans at different RPMs might cause less air to pass through and cool the GPU's heatsink.
I'm guessing that if you use two intake fans on the bottom and provide a good way for the hot air to get out (an exhaust fan or a clear path to the top vent) you should be okay, assuming you either use water cooling for the CPU or don't care about CPU temps (if you're not overclocking).
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I'll either be using the R9 280X or the GTX 760 4GB version.
What if I set the 2 intake fans to the same RPM as the cooler?
I'll be OCing just the CPU (i5-4670K to 4.0Ghz) and it will be air cooled.
Also there will be a 92mm exhaust at the top vent.
Am I ok?
From what I'm hearing finding a 280x or 290x reference card may be hard to find. Everyone seems to be making their own non reference cooling system on them where they have 2 or 3 cooling fans and the air gets blown out into the case. Not sure if this rumored info is true or not so take it with some salt. And if you see any 280x reference style cards please let me know. I want one.
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Also, okwchin I like your nixie clock!!
Oh, and for my $.02, I am leaning towards removing the fan assembly from my R9 270x and using the bottom 120mm case fans to keep it cool.
Oh, and for my $.02, I am leaning towards removing the fan assembly from my R9 270x and using the bottom 120mm case fans to keep it cool.
commander_
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Also, I noticed this PSU.
http://athenapower.com/product/power-supply/micro-sfx/ap-mp4atx60fep8
It should fit on the PSU bracket (same height/width as SFX) but it is a bit longer compared to the 450W SS one (100mm vs. 130mm).
130mm is within the limits for SFX PSUs for the M1.
I'm wondering if it will work...
http://athenapower.com/product/power-supply/micro-sfx/ap-mp4atx60fep8
It should fit on the PSU bracket (same height/width as SFX) but it is a bit longer compared to the 450W SS one (100mm vs. 130mm).
130mm is within the limits for SFX PSUs for the M1.
I'm wondering if it will work...
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It would probably work, unless you put in a long GPU. Anything longer than 15cm is going to be running into the bottom of or having that power supply rest on top of it. Cards in the 24cm+ range are going to be colliding with the pigtail, though depending on how the P/S is installed, cards as short as 17cm could be in conflict with the pigtail.
On my *ahem* NCase, 130mm from the bottom of the SFX bracket is within 3mm of being in line with the PCIe slot. Cards that have substantial real estate on the processor side of the PCIe slot would probably come into conflict with a 13cm PSU, and any card that is longer than the edge of the motherboard would probably be in conflict with the PSU, too.
Unless you used a PCIe riser and put your card into the second and third slots, but then you're opening a can of worms with using slim fans and/or occluding airflow to your radiators...
So, what I'm saying is that, depending on the specific combination of motherboard and GPU, it may work.
Judging by Anandtech's benchmarks, the XFX and Asus 280x runs slightly cooler than the 7970 at 70-75C on load (Furmark). In Necere's first temperature tests, he used a stock 7970 blower and got around 90C on the GPU with the VRM "being about 12C less than the core GPU temp." In the second temperature test, he uses the Arctic Cooling Accelero Extreme and got around 70C on the GPU and 90C on the VRMs. If whatever OEM cooler you go with does a decent job of cooling the VRMs, I imagine that your temps would be somewhere in the middle of these two tests (e.g. 80C GPU, 75C VRMs).
So I think you would be okay if you stock clock the GPU and have the CPU at only 4.0GHz.
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Yet another person here who joined the forums specifically because of this project. I thought I'd create an account so I can ask whatever questions I accumulate between now and when I finally get to build.
The Janurary time frame for shipping aligns with the supposed release of Kaveri. I was thinking I'd get that flagship chip (I think I can safely assume it'll be a sub $200 part) and shove it on the ASRock FM2A88X-ITX, of which I saw a leaked picture pricing it at 11480 yen ($118 USD) . It has the CPU socket centrally located, seemingly begging for the NH-C14. But the situation with the ST45SF-G is disheartening. If I can't have both fans working, it might be a better bet to go with the NH-L12. Then I saw the pictures of the NH-C14 build reposted, and got me thinking. Silverstone bundles the ST45SF-G with an SFX to ATX adapter bracket. Could I use this to mount the ST45SF-G in the ATX orientation, thereby allowing me to keep the bottom 140 fan on the NH-C14?
When it comes to a video card, I'll either satisfy myself with whatever Kaveri has on board, possibly crossfiring it (with a hopefully compatible 7790/260X) and wait until the 20nm shrink to go all out and buy a flagship, or go all out now and try to find a reference 7970. I'm not against the unholy union of an AMD CPU with an Nvidia GPU, but given my budget whatever I'd get from Nvidia would have 2 gigs of 256 memory, and I'm afraid I'd have to upgrade that sooner then I'd like to. Whatever I end up with, I see the advantages of a blower style fan in this case. My only concern is that it only does an adequate job cooling, and at the cost of being noisy. Are there any top down coolers which expel enough air out the back to consider in this build? Or is it pretty much limited to blower/liquid cooled graphics cards?
The Janurary time frame for shipping aligns with the supposed release of Kaveri. I was thinking I'd get that flagship chip (I think I can safely assume it'll be a sub $200 part) and shove it on the ASRock FM2A88X-ITX, of which I saw a leaked picture pricing it at 11480 yen ($118 USD) . It has the CPU socket centrally located, seemingly begging for the NH-C14. But the situation with the ST45SF-G is disheartening. If I can't have both fans working, it might be a better bet to go with the NH-L12. Then I saw the pictures of the NH-C14 build reposted, and got me thinking. Silverstone bundles the ST45SF-G with an SFX to ATX adapter bracket. Could I use this to mount the ST45SF-G in the ATX orientation, thereby allowing me to keep the bottom 140 fan on the NH-C14?
When it comes to a video card, I'll either satisfy myself with whatever Kaveri has on board, possibly crossfiring it (with a hopefully compatible 7790/260X) and wait until the 20nm shrink to go all out and buy a flagship, or go all out now and try to find a reference 7970. I'm not against the unholy union of an AMD CPU with an Nvidia GPU, but given my budget whatever I'd get from Nvidia would have 2 gigs of 256 memory, and I'm afraid I'd have to upgrade that sooner then I'd like to. Whatever I end up with, I see the advantages of a blower style fan in this case. My only concern is that it only does an adequate job cooling, and at the cost of being noisy. Are there any top down coolers which expel enough air out the back to consider in this build? Or is it pretty much limited to blower/liquid cooled graphics cards?
150mm, you mean. But I agree with you that a 130mm long SFX is going to be a bit tricky. The Athena's single cable bundle exiting at one end makes it a bit more possible - at least with cards up to 10" or so - since the cables will have room to pass at the front of the card. Of course, being non-modular, there's going to be an excess of cables to deal with. Much as with an ATX PSU, modding may be called for.
Yes.
Can't say I recommend the reference 7970 with stock cooler, unless you really don't care about noise. It may be quiet at idle, but by god, when it gets going...
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DIGISTOR ODD DEAL UPDATE:
Digistor is now offering 2 coupon codes for M1 backers buying factory-authorized Panasonic slimline slot-load drives. Both drives are OEM (no software, no cables), and carry a 1-year warranty. Software, cables & blank media are also available before check-out if anyone needs them. Shipping over $75 is free in the US (48 contiguous states), and there is a shipping estimator for any international orders (or for any US orders under $75) - see estimates below.
- PANASONIC UJ-8C5 (DVD) $45 -- Code: HF8C5M1
- PANASONIC UJ-265 (BLURAY) $105 -- Code: HF265M1
Digistor's regular price on the UJ-265 is $129, and their regular price on the UJ-8C5 is $59. Forms of payment are Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover & PayPal.
For shipping, I ran the estimator a few times to give everyone some ballpark ideas of what shipping charges should be (used random zip codes, so your mileage may vary).
US over $75 (USPS Priority): FREE
US under $75 (USPS Priortity): $7
Australia (FedEx Int'l Economy): $36
Canada (FedEx Int'l Economy): $27
UK (FedEx Int'l Economy): $35
DISCOUNT CODES EXPIRE IN 2 WEEKS (11/8/2013)
If [H] rules allow, I will try to PM everyone that has previously expressed interest in this deal with the same details above so no one misses out. EDIT: All PM's sent.
* Just a disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with DIGISTOR/SLI, and I just placed my own order for a UJ-265 Bluray! In my opinion, it is incredibly nice of them to offer our community a volume discount in this manner, so please show your support
EDIT: Holy geez, my ODD shipped w/tracking already - woot!
that is a good deal if ur in the us, $35 shipping to the uk kills it a bit, but scan do have this one at £116 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/silv...im-slot-black-for-laptops-and-custom-desktops
here's some more info on that one http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=410&area=en
and a review http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/56...t-loading-6x-blu-ray-writer-review/index.html
as for cabling, i will probably use one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-Micro-Power-Adapter-Cable/dp/B002RCQ6U2/ref=pd_sim_computers_7
or, u get something like this, and strip the drive out http://www.amazon.co.uk/Archgon-External-Blu-Ray-Panasonic-aluminum/dp/B00DUX3A3S
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