Gigaflops And Teraflops Don't Matter - Xbox One Has The Best Games

So a gigaflop doesn't matter to a teraflop? Who do these guys really think they are. Speed of hardware directly translates to a better experience. Duh.
 
VladDracule said:
That completely depends on what your looking for. Gears of War feels and plays heavier. It feels like your a 250 lb muscle bound guy with a big gun plunging literally head first into cover. Thats how it feels and how its meant to play. COD and Battlefield are more finesse based. Its all a matter of what you want at the time.

I remember when the first halo launched i had an absolute blast with my cousins playing split screen when i first got the XBox. IDK why gamers feels like they have an obligation to bash every single thing they dont like.

I can go into detail about why TLOU is so over rated in the experience catagory but its because of how i think it should have been done, i dont say nobody should enjoy it because it didnt meet my vision of that type of game
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I'm not trying to say that those are bad games. Forza is great, and GoW and Halo are pretty widely reknowned. But it's not like there is a shortage of quality FPS or 3rd person shooting games. I feel like the PS3 exclusives are more diverse and there are simply more of them. I can't name another Xbox exclusive game. Most of the good Xbox games also come to PC. So if I had to make a decision between the two, it would be a PlayStation.

This doesn't look like it's changing much for the next generation. The only really interesting Exclusives I've seen are also announced for PC - e.g. Titanfall.
 
AceGoober said:
How much did Microsoft pay Harrison to talk-up the XBox One?
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Phil will always tow the party line no matter how much it might make him look goofy/bad/WTF did he just say?!?!? I know this from personal experience back at Sony working with him. Early on he took a lot of bullets because of crap Kutaragi would say and Phil would have to back it up with the press.

Croaker
 
Methadras said:
So a gigaflop doesn't matter to a teraflop? Who do these guys really think they are. Speed of hardware directly translates to a better experience. Duh.
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thats the kind of boneheaded statement that kills gaming. Gaming is not about graphics, it is about the actual game i.e gameplay.

I didnt get a Wii U until recently, and the second screen adds more than you would think to a gaming experience than you would think.

Also the Wii and Wii U seems to be the only console that really does side by side multiplayer to the extent that they do, which is a completely different fantastic gaming experience from online multiplayer. This is why the Wii sold so incredibly well, it brought back a side of gaming that Sony and Microsoft completely ignored for a very long time
 
Rizen said:
I'm not trying to say that those are bad games. Forza is great, and GoW and Halo are pretty widely reknowned. But it's not like there is a shortage of quality FPS or 3rd person shooting games. I feel like the PS3 exclusives are more diverse and there are simply more of them. I can't name another Xbox exclusive game. Most of the good Xbox games also come to PC. So if I had to make a decision between the two, it would be a PlayStation.

This doesn't look like it's changing much for the next generation. The only really interesting Exclusives I've seen are also announced for PC - e.g. Titanfall.
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diverse in what way? TLOU is nothing but a third person shooter with a fairly well developed storyline. Uncharted is not that unique in that the gameplay aspects of it are very very similiar to tomb raider and other games before it. No matter how you look at it every single game out there has a parallel to it aside from the very very unique indie games that peak their heads out every once in a while. Its all a matter of preference
 
JoeUser said:
Bullfuckshit.

Is that why the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One 2 to 1? So you're telling me there twice the number of PS3 owners than there are Xbox 360 owners?

Christ man...it isn't that hard to prove you completely wrong. You could have at least tried. :rolleyes:
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lol your calling bullshit and using idiotic bullshit pre-sell numbers? Sony allowed their numbers to be inflated and outsold the hell out of themselves which is why theyve said everyone who pre orders wont get one on launch day or even really before a specific date. Theyre also intentionally bottlenecking their pre order releases, meaning joe blow who didnt pre order a console may be able to walk into a store and get one before another persons pre order is fulfilled.

Sony allowed "unlimited" pre orders on their consoles through multiple vendors when microsoft had a hard cap, that allows sony's numbers to be inflated in comparison to actual demand
 
Phil Harrison is a remnant of 2006 Sony, not surprised at all.
Always on the wrong team, always at the wrong time. lulz
 
VladDracule said:
lol your calling bullshit and using idiotic bullshit pre-sell numbers? Sony allowed their numbers to be inflated and outsold the hell out of themselves which is why theyve said everyone who pre orders wont get one on launch day or even really before a specific date. Theyre also intentionally bottlenecking their pre order releases, meaning joe blow who didnt pre order a console may be able to walk into a store and get one before another persons pre order is fulfilled.

Sony allowed "unlimited" pre orders on their consoles through multiple vendors when microsoft had a hard cap, that allows sony's numbers to be inflated in comparison to actual demand
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If it were anyone else I'd respond but seeing as it's YOU, again, I'd rather not waste my breath.
 
Every single report back all the way to June directly states that Sony gave companies the go ahead for unlimited pre orders meaning a soft cap, which means they exceeded their actual production capacity, and every report about microsoft pre orders have stated they gave retailers a limited amount of pre orders. How is that such an illogical explanation as to the difference in pre order numbers? seems pretty fucking obvious to any moron who can use common sense
 
Just to clarify preorder numbers: It costs exactly $0 to preorder an Xbox One or PS4. A great many preordered consoles won't end up purchased by the people who preordered them. With a $60 game, you can get a pretty good idea of how many games will be sold on day one from preorders 2 months ahead of release; with a $400-500 unproven console, it's absolutely guaranteed that a significant number of people will change their minds between the day they preordered and the day they actually have to pay.
 
VladDracule said:
Every single report back all the way to June directly states that Sony gave companies the go ahead for unlimited pre orders meaning a soft cap, which means they exceeded their actual production capacity, and every report about microsoft pre orders have stated they gave retailers a limited amount of pre orders. How is that such an illogical explanation as to the difference in pre order numbers? seems pretty fucking obvious to any moron who can use common sense
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http://www.cinemablend.com/games/PS4-Continues-Dominate-Xbox-One-Polls-Pre-Orders-59268.html

Both Wal-marts near me are out of PS4 pre-orders...they have a stack of Xbox One's. Sony will be able to fulfill all pre-orders.

You're argument is invalid.

Now I must follow my own advice. Good day sir.
 
VladDracule said:
Every single report back all the way to June directly states that Sony gave companies the go ahead for unlimited pre orders meaning a soft cap, which means they exceeded their actual production capacity, and every report about microsoft pre orders have stated they gave retailers a limited amount of pre orders. How is that such an illogical explanation as to the difference in pre order numbers? seems pretty fucking obvious to any moron who can use common sense
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no links? again? How many times is this?
 
well Microsoft games closed down....except that it did not.. it just got rolled into xbox and is stll ticking.

So let's not go for scaremongering please :)

as a pc gamer ... I have not cared about consoles (well only in how they diminish the PC games0. But this time around, I am actually interested in the other media capabilities of the one.
 
 
Babbster said:
it's absolutely guaranteed that a significant number of people will change their minds between the day they preordered and the day they actually have to pay.
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I have both pre-ordered, but am dropping one soon. Not sure which one yet. :/ I know a couple others that are doing the same. They just want one, but aren't sure which one yet. So, that's at least 3 down.... ;)
 
Ur_Mom said:
I have both pre-ordered, but am dropping one soon. Not sure which one yet. :/ I know a couple others that are doing the same. They just want one, but aren't sure which one yet. So, that's at least 3 down.... ;)
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I was pretty excited very early on and preordered an Xbox One but I canceled a couple weeks later when I sobered up and remembered that I have good reasons not to buy a console at launch. Not only are there plenty of 360 games I've not played yet (hell, I'll even finally give Halo 3 a try when I get it for free on the 16th) but I've bought two brand-new games in the last month (Diablo 3 and GTA V) that'll keep me going for a fair while. Shit, I might even buy another PS3 next year to catch up with some of the exclusives I haven't played (and they'll be discounted to boot!).

Short version: That's 4. ;)
 
VladDracule said:
http://www.ibtimes.com/ps4-unlimite...-4-now-being-accepted-gamestop-report-1318559

http://www.computerandvideogames.co...ps4-pre-orders-this-weekend-sources-tell-cvg/

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ps4-...as-gamestop-gets-unlimited-allocation/0117606

http://www.videogamer.com/news/sony...ilers_to_accept_unlimited_ps4_pre-orders.html

http://www.gamespot.com/news/gamestop-accepting-unlimited-preorders-for-ps4-report-6410562
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You do understand that they are FILLING ALL ORDERS correct? MS hasn't REACHED their pre-order LIMIT.

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VladDracule said:
http://www.ibtimes.com/ps4-unlimite...-4-now-being-accepted-gamestop-report-1318559

http://www.computerandvideogames.co...ps4-pre-orders-this-weekend-sources-tell-cvg/

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ps4-...as-gamestop-gets-unlimited-allocation/0117606

http://www.videogamer.com/news/sony...ilers_to_accept_unlimited_ps4_pre-orders.html

http://www.gamespot.com/news/gamestop-accepting-unlimited-preorders-for-ps4-report-6410562
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Gamestop was told they can (for a limited time) take unlimited preorders which based on the memo released which reads;

Gamestop Memo said:
“Starting now, through this weekend and until further notice, Sony has allowed us to take unlimited preorders beyond your current allotments,” the memo reads. “In other-words, the flood-gates are open for PS4 system reserves, we will let you know when to stop pre-ordering based on limited quantities.
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Gamestop is the only retailer in North America with the ability to properly handle brick and mortar releases. What was happening here was Sony establishing a demand based on location so they know how many to ship and where. All major retailers like Walmart, Target, Best Buy have much more floor space.

Your theory is remarkably flawed. Every other retailer has been given preorder allotments + day one units for instore sales, Amazon is not taking anymore day-one preorders yet almost daily folks are getting emails saying they have been upgraded to day one.

What I find even more remarkable is that in those very links Gamestop employees are quoted saying the PS4 has a much higher demand.

Thanks for the links though.
 
^^ I should add "properly handle brick and mortar PRE-releases"

I hate Gamestop but compared to most everyone else in NA they do a fairly good job dealing with Preorders.
 
next-Jin said:
Gamestop was told they can (for a limited time) take unlimited preorders which based on the memo released which reads;



Gamestop is the only retailer in North America with the ability to properly handle brick and mortar releases. What was happening here was Sony establishing a demand based on location so they know how many to ship and where. All major retailers like Walmart, Target, Best Buy have much more floor space.

Your theory is remarkably flawed. Every other retailer has been given preorder allotments + day one units for instore sales, Amazon is not taking anymore day-one preorders yet almost daily folks are getting emails saying they have been upgraded to day one.

What I find even more remarkable is that in those very links Gamestop employees are quoted saying the PS4 has a much higher demand.

Thanks for the links though.
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Wrong

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Play...aranteed-Launch-Delivery-by-Sony-373777.shtml
 
next-Jin said:
Which part specifically? I'm trying to work in my daily /drops mic reply and it might be here depending on how you answer.
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It 100% proves the fact that Sony outsold themselves in pre orders. The fact that they are not fulfilling all their pre orders on day one, or any time soon after in all countries is complete verification that their pre order numbers were not capped. Not just by Gamestop. Microsoft on the other hand had a hard limit of pre orders in all countries with all retailers. The number of pre orders is not true demand, the percentage of number allocated to number sold is statistically more accurate.

If microsoft had only sold 80% of the pre orders they made available, you'd be absolutely right in saying the ps4 demand is absolutely higher, but in this case the ratio and percentage sold is more accurate
 
Basically Sony is spending the money on increasing their system horsepower (GPU, memory)

And Microsoft is spending that money bribing developers to create artificial "exclusivies" and probably to cut down graphics on the PS4 version on non-exclusives.

Yeah that's great for gaming.
 
okashira said:
Basically Sony is spending the money on increasing their system horsepower (GPU, memory)

And Microsoft is spending that money bribing developers to create artificial "exclusivies" and probably to cut down graphics on the PS4 version on non-exclusives.

Yeah that's great for gaming.
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Hasn't that been the case since like 1978?
 
VladDracule said:
It 100% proves the fact that Sony outsold themselves in pre orders. The fact that they are not fulfilling all their pre orders on day one, or any time soon after in all countries is complete verification that their pre order numbers were not capped. Not just by Gamestop. Microsoft on the other hand had a hard limit of pre orders in all countries with all retailers. The number of pre orders is not true demand, the percentage of number allocated to number sold is statistically more accurate.

If microsoft had only sold 80% of the pre orders they made available, you'd be absolutely right in saying the ps4 demand is absolutely higher, but in this case the ratio and percentage sold is more accurate
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I'm sorry, can you answer a few questions please?

Is Sony intentionally telling retailers to continue doing day one/general Pre-orders knowing they can not guarantee 100% of the orders placed?

Did Gamestop say or not say they would pull unlimited Pre-orders when alloted quantities were drained?

Who has the authority to put items on pre-order on unreleased products, the retailer or the principal company?

The pre-order slips in Best Buy, the PS4 section is empty. Why? The Xbox One is full, why? Did Jack Trenton call that Best Buy Manager and tell him to fill the Sony pre-order box back up or is he looking at an allotment number and not refilling until they get updated numbers?
 
Why does everyone forget Cathrine and Nobi Nobi Boy? The staples of PlayStation.
 
next-Jin said:
I'm sorry, can you answer a few questions please?

Is Sony intentionally telling retailers to continue doing day one/general Pre-orders knowing they can not guarantee 100% of the orders placed?

Did Gamestop say or not say they would pull unlimited Pre-orders when alloted quantities were drained?

Who has the authority to put items on pre-order on unreleased products, the retailer or the principal company?

The pre-order slips in Best Buy, the PS4 section is empty. Why? The Xbox One is full, why? Did Jack Trenton call that Best Buy Manager and tell him to fill the Sony pre-order box back up or is he looking at an allotment number and not refilling until they get updated numbers?
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continuing to fill pre orders and over selling day one pre orders are two completely separate questions/topics. Sony outsold day 1 pre orders, closed fact, it wont affect people in the US most likely but it will affect other countries. Which again, tells you there are inflated numbers in terms of pre orders on Sonys side. They allowed more than they can produce.

Best buy is not accepting day one pre orders.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Video-G...ageType=REDIRECT&issolr=1&searchterm=xbox one
again, end of Story. Microsoft did recently re open day one pre orders and allowed more based on a limited amount. Recent re opening of pre orders is irrelavent to some stores having a few pre orders left, because its just that, its additional allowance that came about recently, not because they didnt sell from day one.

the principle company has the authority to tell the allowed number of pre orders, Microsoft and Sony chose the where they cap each individual company, it is not gamestop or anyone elses decision.
 
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