Actually, I'd love Glide compatibility.
well i figure they will bring it back in name only like SLi
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Actually, I'd love Glide compatibility.
Writing in some custom API (for AMD) + a standard one like DirectX or OpenGL (to support EVERYONE ELSE) is too time consuming and costly for most developers to consider it practical. Thrown in two vendor-specific APIs and most of them will just say "screw it" and go with the path of least resistance.
1.) Release a Titan ultra. A fully unlocked and highly clocked GK110
2.) Rename the regular Titan the 785 and drop it's price to $650 or whatever
3.) Drop the price of the 780 and 770 to match.
4.) Release a GK110 based 790
Sadly, Nvidia is the only option I can consider for a new GPU. Various software I use rely on CUDA acceleration....
Not really. This isn't all that hard for game devs, as they already build the engine to be largely 3D API agnostic due to needing to support OpenGL, DirectX 9, DirectX 10/11, 2 console APIs, and perhaps OpenGL ES. With Mantle basically being the next gen console API, I suspect more games will support it than not, there's not really any reason for them not to. Which API is used tends to be a fairly small part of the engine.
Now, will devs leverage Mantle to do totally new and awesome stuff with the ability to mix compute and rendering efficiently at will? Probably not. But will they use it for the free performance? Definitely.
§kynet;1040227335 said:For example?
Physx? No one cares about that.Might not have a choice if you need or want features that only Nvidia cards have
The problem with DX is that MS has pretty much stopped development of it. OpenGL game development is nearly dead and its Windows support has suffered for quite a while. AMD or nV are almost being forced to do their own API's of some sort in the future by this.If that happens, developers will just write in DirectX and OpenGL and call it a day.
If AMD didn't have all the consoles using their hardware this statement would probably be true*. Given that they current do actually have nearly every game developer working with their hardware AMD actually has a decent chance of pulling this off. Provided of course they don't do anything stupid with their business practices or with the way they implement their API.For Mantle to take off, AMD + Intel + Nvidia will all have to support it.
Nah all you need is a good Glide wrapper or JIT that comes with the drivers done by AMD, nV, or Intel themselves.Actually, I'd love Glide compatibility.
like someone mentioned already, "cross platform" there was referring to OS.Skip to 11:47. "So I've been talking about this type of approach for years with the various graphics vendors"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLt5RVGJfQY
Very first slide after he introduces mantle.
And if you want a little bit of history when this all got started read this from 2 years ago:
http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/120
Last sentence is key. When a game engine supports mantle ALL games built on it will support mantle without the need for any particular developer to do any extra work.
bla bla bla uneducated trolling bla bla
Sorry what was that?
From the quickness of your reply I know you didn't read nor listened to the presentation therefore your uneducated assumption is nothing more than word vomit. People, please try to do better you are embarrassing to watch
By releasing an actual next-gen product instead of AMD's rebrand and 7970 on steroids.
What if.... Well it is too late. AMD has new cards which are from day 1 of their release going to offer a much better performance/value experience. Old NVIDIA cards are going to depreciate because they are no longer able to compete with AMD.
Only thing that NVIDIA can really do is make a better performance/value card.
Except for being a whole 40% cheaper or so even assuming it has no performance advantage.
5) Bundle their cards with blow jobs from Rhianna.
It doesn't look like a titan killer at all.
Except for being a whole 40% cheaper or so even assuming it has no performance advantage.
40% cheaper? You really think they'll sell the 290x for $385?
For $600, though... it won't be an easy job to have people choose 290x over 780.
Well, they are bundling BF4 and probably 2-3 other games, so even if it is $600, it's still a great value.
But, it's not going to be $600, kyle already got that confirmed. So, I'm betting $499 or $529 now.
Stick a fork in Titan, it's finished.
Well, they are bundling BF4 and probably 2-3 other games, so even if it is $600, it's still a great value.
But, it's not going to be $600, kyle already got that confirmed. So, I'm betting $499 or $529 now.
There has been nothing from AMD to indicate BF4 is going in the Never Settle bundle. In fact, I'd say the fact that they are selling a BF4 edition 290X would suggest it isn't going in, at least not right away. Why make a special edition if all the cards get it - kind of defeats the point of "special"
And the $600 might have been low, not high.
I didn't say BF4 was going in the Never Settle with all their GPUs. we were specifically taking about the R9 290x, and you know that. You also know AMD mentioned they will be bundling it with the 290x. So again, even if it was $600, that includes BF4. I bet they'll price it less than $600 though.
Nvidia better start talking about something soon...anything...AMD is coming at them from all sides...usually Nvidia responds with a press release touting some new tech or upcoming card but they've been too silent...they need to respond with something BIG
I don't think they need to respond to a paper launch. Best to wait and see if AMD has anything, like last time. AMD released the 7970 and NVIDIA just released their mid range chip to match it.
it's not just the new cards...it's the new Mantle API, amazing Never Settle bundles, next-gen console domination etc...seems like AMD is going for the jugular
But, it's not going to be $600, kyle already got that confirmed. So, I'm betting $499 or $529 now.
There has been nothing from AMD to indicate BF4 is going in the Never Settle bundle. In fact, I'd say the fact that they are selling a BF4 edition 290X would suggest it isn't going in, at least not right away. Why make a special edition if all the cards get it - kind of defeats the point of "special"
And the $600 might have been low, not high.
But, it's not going to be $600, kyle already got that confirmed. So, I'm betting $499 or $529 now.
Mantle is a gimmick with little or no support
Never said PhysX, was more thinking CUVID when I said that.Physx? No one cares about that.
Can't really agree there, not when I've got:If you mean "drivers lol" then AMD is on par with nV for single card drivers.
The GTX 780 goes for between $650 and $680, not $1000...He's saying $600, 40% cheaper than $1000.