NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Is there a way to change the color from black to silver :D?
e.g. make a 1$ perk for silver color :D
 
Is there a way to change the color from black to silver :D?
e.g. make a 1$ perk for silver color :D

From the IGG website:

REMEMBER TO SELECT A PERK!

Please add $1 if you'd like silver exterior panels.

I believe you select a perk, then add $1 to that total.
 
From the IGG website:

REMEMBER TO SELECT A PERK!

Please add $1 if you'd like silver exterior panels.

I believe you select a perk, then add $1 to that total.

well I know. I was one of the first 30(?) who contributed 245$ and selected the perk :p
I just wanted to know if I could pledge another 1$ and get the silver one instead :D
 
What is the biggest rad that fits in the case that they tested? I was hoping to cool my GPU (680GTX) and CPU (i5 3770k).
 
I'm also thinking of getting the RoG Impact motherboard, does it come with build-in wifi? I can't find it on the review that you linked AFD. Broadwell will fit on an 1150 socket right? Or is it better to get a new motherboard to support the latest features?
 
I'm also thinking of getting the RoG Impact motherboard, does it come with build-in wifi? I can't find it on the review that you linked AFD. Broadwell will fit on an 1150 socket right? Or is it better to get a new motherboard to support the latest features?

yep. / maybe / I don't think their will come a lot of new mitx boards until jan.
 
What size radiator and res fits in this lil guy?

Watercooling:

Sealed liquid coolers or integrated pump/block and radiator/res recommended.
Single 120mm or 240mm radiators only.
Thinner radiators only (under 40mm).
Fans in push/pull are not recommended due to space constraints.
 
yeah, I saw that too ... would be nice to mount a rad on the top of the case too, with those plumbings going out, might not be a bad idea to get another 220 rad on there.
 
I might wait to see what others do too ... 680GTX probably wants the 220 itself to dissipate/cool nicely.
 
yeah, I saw that too ... would be nice to mount a rad on the top of the case too, with those plumbings going out, might not be a bad idea to get another 220 rad on there.

Defeat's the purpose of the case and it's sexy good looks. I agree that a single 240 rad will be pushing it cooling wise. My plan to get past that is to delid my 4770k and use really high quality thermal compound on both cpu and gpu. I also think getting some high quality fans will help as well. I'm thinking two of there new "ruggedised industrial models" would be awesome on the rad. Though I do have a soft spot for these but there performance on rads is debatable. It would look sweet having 2 on the rad and 2 on the bottom with another as exhaust . I imagine it would shine through all the ventalation holes on the side and top panels. :D
 
well there is a gtx780 cooled by a 120mm AIO and you can cool a 6 core with a 120mm rad.

so a 240mm is doable ...
 
well there is a gtx780 cooled by a 120mm AIO and you can cool a 6 core with a 120mm rad.

so a 240mm is doable ...

Agreed, I think it will be fine. My last issue is since I can't get a H220 I need to find a rad with a built in res. Does anyone have any experience with these type's of rads? It's pretty much my last hurdle. I wan't something that is top quality since it will be cooling two components.
 
Agreed, I think it will be fine. My last issue is since I can't get a H220 I need to find a rad with a built in res. Does anyone have any experience with these type's of rads? It's pretty much my last hurdle. I wan't something that is top quality since it will be cooling two components.

agreed...and what 240mm rad will fit in this guy?
 
agreed...and what 240mm rad will fit in this guy?

I was thinking of this but I have no experience with these rads and am not sure if it will even fit. It is one of the few I could find with a fill port. I was hoping someone else could chime in.

I also found this which is a pump/rad/red combo but again I'm unsure if it will fit.
I hope some more testing can be done so us US people can see other options for WC besides the H220.
 
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There's also the new Silverstone TD02, which according to the one review is pretty close to the H220
 
A setup similar to this should work for you. What suck's is you can't buy the H220 anymore in the US so you could do what I have planed and use this. I just need to find a rad that fits with a fill port now. I was thinking one of these may work but I'm not 100%

Do you know when that is supposed to happen? I noticed microcenter of rockville actually had some up on their shelves for sale.
 
Remember the NCASE M1 Mini-ITX PC case? A small form factor case that was designed by, and with the input of, our very own forum members? Well, their Indiegogo campaign just hit the $100k mark and they only have a few cases left (out of 600), so head on over and get yourself one before they are all gone. :cool:
 
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There's also the new Silverstone TD02, which according to the one review is pretty close to the H220

This won't work "This means you'll need at least 70mm of clearance to install it with its fans, or 95mm if you're after a push-pull set-up."

Watercooling:

Sealed liquid coolers or integrated pump/block and radiator/res recommended.
Single 120mm or 240mm radiators only.
Thinner radiators only under 40mm + 25mm for fans = 65mm max.
Fans in push/pull are not recommended due to space constraints.
 
This won't work "This means you'll need at least 70mm of clearance to install it with its fans, or 95mm if you're after a push-pull set-up."

Watercooling:

Sealed liquid coolers or integrated pump/block and radiator/res recommended.
Single 120mm or 240mm radiators only.
Thinner radiators only under 40mm + 25mm for fans = 65mm max.
Fans in push/pull are not recommended due to space constraints.
To be clear about this, the "official" recommendations I made for radiators are conservative. Technically, the hard limit is 85mm (at which point the rad or fan is right up against the PSU - not a particularly good idea), but the less space there is between the motherboard and rad, the more difficult it's going to be to get the tubing to fit. You may also run into issues with taller RAM.


Regarding this:
I was thinking of this but I have no experience with these rads and am not sure if it will even fit. It is one of the few I could find with a fill port. I was hoping someone else could chime in.

I also found this which is a pump/rad/red combo but again I'm unsure if it will fit.
I hope some more testing can be done so us US people can see other options for WC besides the H220.
The first *may* fit. There's a bit over 300mm internally, and those rads come in at right about 300mm long.

The second one (with the integrated pump) won't fit at all.
 
To be clear about this, the "official" recommendations I made for radiators are conservative. Technically, the hard limit is 85mm (at which point the rad or fan is right up against the PSU - not a particularly good idea), but the less space there is between the motherboard and rad, the more difficult it's going to be to get the tubing to fit. You may also run into issues with taller RAM.


Regarding this:

The first *may* fit. There's a bit over 300mm internally, and those rads come in at right about 300mm long.

The second one (with the integrated pump) won't fit at all.

Thanks for the clarification, I figured the the integrated pump would interfere. I will try and round up some more rads that will work.
 
If you went here and selected the M1 then input your your information and accepted you should be good. Be sure to check your bank statement to ensure the transaction wen't through.
Congrats on your purchase if so !

No I went through the first page, selected M1 on the right side for 200 something....was that a mistake?
 
Build looks awesome. Just 2 things.. I think I recall reading in a recent ROG ITX review that the NGFF slot only uses 1 PCIe lane, limiting its throughput to only 500MB/s (half of its theoretical limit, I think) which seems to be slightly slower than current 2.5" on Sata3.

Also, the GTX670 Mini. I'm interested in this as well, but am unsure of the cooling since it's not a true blower-style because of its 2 open sides. And the depth.. M1 specs state 4.7" to the power connecter, and Asus just states 4.8" depth for the Mini. Might fit, but I'm not really 100% sure yet. Read quite a few customer reviews saying it wouldn't fit in other small cases.

Found the ROG ITX review I read. They mention the NGFF implementation on page #25...

http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1050

thanks for the input!
Few questions tho, which PSU size would u prefer more? ATX or SFX?
As for the SSD I think it should be fast enough for someone like me still using VR and x25-V
Lastly what if GPU doesn't fit!? Think there is any way to make it work? Although wahah would know better

Thanks
KeymaN
 
Once the 600 mark is hit no more are being made right?

They said something about a soft cap so if they got 700 or 800 orders or even 650 I dont see why they wouldn't do it. But as someone said above better to get in on the first 600 just to be on the safe side.
 
No I went through the first page, selected M1 on the right side for 200 something....was that a mistake?

If you live in the states and selected the M1 and the transaction went through (for $205) you should be good to go.
 
Agreed, I think it will be fine. My last issue is since I can't get a H220 I need to find a rad with a built in res. Does anyone have any experience with these type's of rads? It's pretty much my last hurdle. I wan't something that is top quality since it will be cooling two components.

I should start smuggling H220s into the states from Canada :D

When NCIX gets them in stock, that's what I'm doing.
 
thanks for the input!
Few questions tho, which PSU size would u prefer more? ATX or SFX?
As for the SSD I think it should be fast enough for someone like me still using VR and x25-V
Lastly what if GPU doesn't fit!? Think there is any way to make it work? Although wahah would know better

Thanks
KeymaN

Sure thing! I actually found another article about NGFF stating that although the 1st generation will be limited to 500MB/s, it should have a lower latency compared to standard SATA SSD. So I'm thinking both current 2.5" SSD and 1st-gen NGFF should be comparable. Was gonna post a link to the article last night, but [H] was down..

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/5529/adata-m-2-ssds-performance-preview-and-the-ngff-story/index.html

As for the Asus 670 Mini.. if the card is too high and doesn't fit, I really don't see any way of making it fit, short of cutting out a slot in the side of the M1, which would look nasty. Unless I can come across some better referenced dimensions, or Necere has any feedback on this card's fitment in the M1, I'm gonna pass.

And for the PSU.. personally I would be happiest with a 600W short ATX & short cable set, but since I'm planning on using the 3.5" HDD rack, I'm going with the 450W SFX instead. Though it would be sweet if the planets aligned and Tony @Silverstone announced an SFX with a little more headroom in the next few months =)
 
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