Did Microsoft pull a bait-and-switch with One features?

Did Microsoft pull a bait-and-switch with One features

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 41.1%

  • No

    Votes: 29 51.8%

  • No opinion

    Votes: 4 7.1%
  • Total voters
    56
  • Poll closed .
bigdogchris

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Microsoft originally advertised game DVR, on screen TV navigation, and Skype as Xbox One features. Now the news is out that those require a Live subscription, meaning, they are Xbox Live features that happen to be utilized on Xbox One.
 
Definitely. With underpowered hardware compared to their main compeditor, Kinect being always on and being a requirement, to their original stance on games policies and total lack of focus on GAMES (instead of TV, sports, and more TV), they have done wonders to lose at least one customer for life. Fuck them.
 
and you believed them? those are features of the console that are behind a paywall....good luck trying to win that one...
 
I dont think they did, but thats because I knew better based on 360. EVERYTHING was behind a paywall. Paying for services you already pay for thats the Microsoft way.
 
how can it be bait and switch if its not even for sale yet?

seriously
 
arr4ws said:
how can it be bait and switch if its not even for sale yet?

seriously
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Simply because they touted all these features before without a single mention of Xbox Live. Now they say it's required.

Granted on the whole it doesn't matter because if you don't like this then don't get one or cancel your pre-order.
 
I probably won't be getting the Xbox 1, but I expected this. I feel like it's understood you need Live to do anything fun.

I never had a 360, but i wouldn't mind paying $60 a year for a service that works well.
 
JoeUser said:
Simply because they touted all these features before without a single mention of Xbox Live. Now they say it's required.

Granted on the whole it doesn't matter because if you don't like this then don't get one or cancel your pre-order.
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They told you it's required before the device was for sale therefore by definition it's not a bait-and-switch.

Also, you people really thought that all these features wouldn't be behind a paywall? They make you purchase Xbox Live to watch Netflix, a third-party service that you have to pay for separately, and it doesn't even use any bandwidth on Microsoft's end. Of course stuff like Game DVR which is going to require storage, bandwidth, etc is going to cost you.
 
Agreed with most everyone here. I can see how it can seem like a bait-and-switch, but Microsoft is announcing these things well in advance of console launch. If they waited until launch to announce it (after all the orders were filled), then we'd have a bait-and-switch. ;)
 
No. It should be fully understood by now that any useful feature offered on Xbox consoles requires a Gold subscription to operate. You're buying the unit and then paying a service fee to operate it.
 
Rizen said:
They told you it's required before the device was for sale therefore by definition it's not a bait-and-switch.

Also, you people really thought that all these features wouldn't be behind a paywall? They make you purchase Xbox Live to watch Netflix, a third-party service that you have to pay for separately, and it doesn't even use any bandwidth on Microsoft's end. Of course stuff like Game DVR which is going to require storage, bandwidth, etc is going to cost you.
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Actually, it's kind of a gray area.. Because before this announcement they announced that you can get all of this with the xbone for $499 and now (although expected) they say it's behind a paywall, so in reality that all amounts to 560 bones to get all those advertised features. To an uneducated costumer this may sound like a bait and switch. The rest of us who know and expected it doesn't sound like one.

My two bones.
 
Plague_Injected said:
OP is a self-confessed Sony fanboy.

Ignore.
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I've never confessed to such things. I played my original Xbox waaay more than my PS2.

Anyways, back on track. When they announced the One, they touted all of these features for the One and ignored questions about service charges. Many people have since pre-ordered the systems, now only to find out that there is a pay wall. That's bait-n-switch by definition. The sale does not have to be completed to be classified by bait-n-switch. They announce the features as Xbox One features, then quietly point out you have to pay for them all months later.
 
since most people wanting the xbox ne will already be gold members this is a moot point, this being said non of these features are worth getting gold for in themselves.
 
Bottom line is fan boys don't care...they are going to have everything of value behind a paywall and its still going to sell like gangbusters even though the PS4 will offer a lot of those same services without a paid subscription. Sad but true....
 
pcjunkie said:
Bottom line is fan boys don't care...they are going to have everything of value behind a paywall and its still going to sell like gangbusters even though the PS4 will offer a lot of those same services without a paid subscription. Sad but true....
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Yup, if you think about this gen the PS3 had more features than the 360, didnt require separate for pretty much anything. Then total cost of a system comparatively was either the same or cheaper than 360 and yet here in USA people bought more 360s than PS3s. Though overall I think the PS3 sold more units faster than the 360 world wide considering it came out a year later and has now sold more units than the 360. Either way when the 360 came out it was a gaming console, when the PS3 came out it could do linux, media, stream, blu ray, games, browse the web. Now its the opposite the Xbox One is trying to be the do it all and PS4 the gaming console first that does media well.
 
I'd say not really. Shit, integrated TV functions don't really interest me that much in the first place.

Mainly because I don't watch very much TV as it is.
 
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