27" QNIX QX2710 Evolution 2 impressions

Mine has remained nothing short of spectacular since it arrived back in May. I am keeping it at 96hz full time, and BF3 has never looked better. I can run at 120hz with a few faint lines on rare occasions on some maps, but 120hz doesn't feel any better IMO.
 
Got 2 more on Friday , both are excellent. No dead pixels (that I can see , haven't done a test to be sure but I probably won't as ignorance can be bliss) and both run at 120hz.

Seriously happy I only had to invest around $900 in 3 1440p PLS monitors versus some $2100 going through standard retail.
 
Cecil said:
Almost bought one. Lovely people seem to have the best policy for $310 or best offer. They pay return shipping costs for a year if it breaks. Their 0-2 dead pixel policy is the same as dream-sellers perfect pixel.

Will probably get it next week.
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Thanks for the tip, actually bought that one from Lovelypeople earlier today since they seemed to have the best policy out of all the sellers. I did the Asian thing and offered/haggled down to 300 bucks...though I'm starting to get paranoid that they'll give me one of their crappier monitors in response. :p
 
I got 2 monitors and a fedex note that said I have to sign for my package. Don't know how my order got split up but apparently one driver felt safe in my neighborhood and one didn't.
 
Falling Anvil said:
Thanks for the tip, actually bought that one from Lovelypeople earlier today since they seemed to have the best policy out of all the sellers. I did the Asian thing and offered/haggled down to 300 bucks...though I'm starting to get paranoid that they'll give me one of their crappier monitors in response. :p
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I tried $299 as under $300 the squaretrade warranty drops $8. Instantly denied.
 
Anyone know if there's any difference between the Qnix and the X-Star model, apart from the logo? The 'perfect pixel' X-Star versions seem to be less expensive than the equivalent Qnix at the moment. It'd be good to know, as I'm looking to take the plunge on buying one soon.
 
Nidryn said:
Anyone know if there's any difference between the Qnix and the X-Star model, apart from the logo? The 'perfect pixel' X-Star versions seem to be less expensive than the equivalent Qnix at the moment. It'd be good to know, as I'm looking to take the plunge on buying one soon.
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Nope, no difference. Most listings even state that.
 
My QNIX came in a day early, yay~~~~

No dead pixels that I can immediately perceive. Colors seem very good (better than the HP ZR22W that I'm coming from). The crap stand angles the monitor away from me, which I think is resulting in some color shift at the bottom since I'm not looking straight at it? According to the advert this can be adjusted but I haven't figured out how yet.

Haven't tested for backlight bleed since its still daylight.

Tried overclocking to 72Hz and 96Hz out of the box through the Nvidia control panel, it worked but the color depth got knocked down to 16-bit in both cases (though I knew it wouldn't be that easy). Time to test out ToastyX's instructions!

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Used ToastyX's Custom Resolution Utility. I have it at 96Hz with 32-bit color depth. Though I'm hearing a very slight buzzing sound coming from the monitor.
 
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Liqq said:
Mine has remained nothing short of spectacular since it arrived back in May. I am keeping it at 96hz full time, and BF3 has never looked better. I can run at 120hz with a few faint lines on rare occasions on some maps, but 120hz doesn't feel any better IMO.
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Same, but I use mine at 110hz full-time (I switch to 75hz for color-sensitive work in desktop programs for total uniformity, but otherwise leave it alone). It's been great.... mine has been in use since mid-May.
 
I bought 3, 2 of them does 120hz, the other one blinks faint vertical lines here and there above 96 :(
 
I have reference CF 7970.

How would I go about connecting 3 such displays? I believe each one of my cards has only one DVDVI output. (will check)
Is Eyefinity possible? I somewhere read that Eyefinity has to run off one card.
 
nHanS said:
I have reference CF 7970.

How would I go about connecting 3 such displays? I believe each one of my cards has only one DVDVI output. (will check)
Is Eyefinity possible? I somewhere read that Eyefinity has to run off one card.
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You have 2 DL-DVI's on one card. If you need to run all 3 form one card for Eyefinity ( i dont know), then you either need to purchase one of those monitors with a DP input or purchase an active DP to DL-DVI adapter ( $70-$100).
I have Nvidia SLI and I can run Nvidia Surround with monitors on 3 different cards, however can't activate SLI with individual monitors on seperate cards lol. I bought a DL DVI adaptert just so I don't have to be on Surround, and you need one just to be on suround. Maybe we should have switched cards lol.
 
Andyk5 said:
I bought 3, 2 of them does 120hz, the other one blinks faint vertical lines here and there above 96 :(
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Do you have a powerful enough graphic card setup to run three over 96Hz?


Probably ordering mine today, and Ill get a second 670. Which from what I can tell, should be ok for one monitor, but for three to maintain 100Hz+ only multiple 780s/Titans would do that in modern games with high details and low AA.
 
Cecil said:
Do you have a powerful enough graphic card setup to run three over 96Hz?


Probably ordering mine today, and Ill get a second 670. Which from what I can tell, should be ok for one monitor, but for three to maintain 100Hz+ only multiple 780s/Titans would do that in modern games with high details and low AA.
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I don't think the graphics card has anything to do with it. I mean it may not be able to give you 120fps, but that does not effect the lines you get from increasing the frequency of the clock oscillator on the board. The better the components they use on the pcb ( more expensive op-amps and voltage regulators) higher the frequency response of your circuit and therefore higher the refresh rate of your monitor.
Given that I have a GTX 680 SLI system.
 
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I don't think the graphics card has anything to do with it. I mean it may not be able to give you 120fps, but that does not effect the lines you get from increasing the frequency of the clock oscillator on the board. The better the components they use on the pcb ( more expensive op-amps and voltage regulators) higher the frequency response of your circuit and therefore higher the refresh rate of your monitor.
Given that I have a GTX 680 SLI system.
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A higher refresh rate doesnt mean anything if you cant push that many frames.

If your GPU setup can only manage 60FPS, running 120Hz, or 100Hz, or 96, or 60Hz isnt going to matter, since there are only 60FPS being sent to the monitor.


Buying a 120Hz monitor to run 60FPS or less isnt going to make anything look better or smoother.


So with dual 670s/680s, you can manage to run a lot of modern games at 2560x1440 over 90FPS, but once you triple that res, you are going to be well below playable frame rates. To get to 120Hz on three with dual 680s, you would have to be running old games, or playing on lowest graphical settings.
 
So I have a Sapphire Radeon 5850 Xtreme.. The first page says it's not compatible with 5850. Can anyone offer their insights?

Thanks in advance.
 
Andyk5 said:
You have 2 DL-DVI's on one card. If you need to run all 3 form one card for Eyefinity ( i dont know), then you either need to purchase one of those monitors with a DP input or purchase an active DP to DL-DVI adapter ( $70-$100).
I have Nvidia SLI and I can run Nvidia Surround with monitors on 3 different cards, however can't activate SLI with individual monitors on seperate cards lol. I bought a DL DVI adaptert just so I don't have to be on Surround, and you need one just to be on suround. Maybe we should have switched cards lol.
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Maybe we should :D
Thank you for your insight, however I truly have one DVI (DLDVI) out per card, which also includes 2x DP and 1x HDMI(miniHDMI..?). Yes, I can run eyefinity 3 off thru one card with CFX, however that would require badass DP to DVI adapter x 2. :($200)
The Resolution of 3 1440p screens in Eyefinity is 7689x1440 or 4320x2560. Either way, its a notch above 4k resolutions.
I love the screen for its 120hz feature, but theres no fucking way Crossfired 7970 would push 100+ fps in modern games at that resolution. Realistically, we're looking at Quadfire 7970 and Tri/Quad SLI performance with at least 3GB VRAM to push such resolution. I believe Trifire Titans would be the sweet spot for said rez, as 4th GPU dont scale all that great.
This has quickly quenched my thirst for 120hz 1440p Eyefinity gaming.

However, another question I would like to ask: For non-Eyefinity purpose, can I use my second card's DLDVI port to connect a second screen solely for desktop use? (won't be gaming on it). If crossfire is disabled, would it disable second screen since its connected to the second card? (Probably)

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So I have a Sapphire Radeon 5850 Xtreme.. The first page says it's not compatible with 5850. Can anyone offer their insights?
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Only condolences :(
 
Yea don't bother attempting to drive this monitor at 120hz with a weak card. If you even do light gaming , you'll want something at least with a bit of power then a 5000 series card.
 
Cecil said:
A higher refresh rate doesnt mean anything if you cant push that many frames.

If your GPU setup can only manage 60FPS, running 120Hz, or 100Hz, or 96, or 60Hz isnt going to matter, since there are only 60FPS being sent to the monitor.


Buying a 120Hz monitor to run 60FPS or less isnt going to make anything look better or smoother.


So with dual 670s/680s, you can manage to run a lot of modern games at 2560x1440 over 90FPS, but once you triple that res, you are going to be well below playable frame rates. To get to 120Hz on three with dual 680s, you would have to be running old games, or playing on lowest graphical settings.
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Again, what you are saying is not wrong but misdirected. I use my monitors modtly on my desktop where 120hz does make a difference, one of my monitors is
Not capable of running 120 so i either deal with mix and match refresh rate or lower everything to 96 hz. I can tell the difference between 96hz and 120, i am mostly on desktop browsing web, coding or running simulations, when i game, i game usually on one screen and my dual gtx 680's are powerfull enough to drive games i play surround up to 200fps max settings(eveonline). So not being able to drive battlefield max settings at 120 fps on 3 1440p monitors is not an excuse or a reason to be ok with one of my monitors not being able refresh at 120hz.
 
I thought you were upset you couldn't run 120Hz because of games. Ive never heard of someone say they felt/saw much difference on desktop usage between 96Hz-120Hz.
 
Lovelypeople accepted my $300 offer. Deciding if Im pulling the trigger. Kind of tempted to just get a 32in 1080P tv.
 
Cecil said:
I thought you were upset you couldn't run 120Hz because of games. Ive never heard of someone say they felt/saw much difference on desktop usage between 96Hz-120Hz.
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Yeah, for gaming 120Hz is not my priority at all, optimum for me would be 3 monitors all at 96hz, with 96fps v-synched and a bit improved graphics due to the lower frame rate requirement.

For desktop use, when I drop from 120Hz to 96, I can feel the difference, when I drop to 60Hz and I scroll down too fast on a web page, I get dizzy lol.
 
My X-star arrived at my door today :eek: . It needed a signature though, and I couldn't be there to sign it so they left a notice and are coming back tomorrow for it. :(

Oh well, I was kind of waiting for my monoprice cables to come in first...
 
I've been thinking of getting one of these.

How are they for gaming? Not too slow on response time/input lag? I had a 30" screen and it was too slow for gaming on.

Also, how many people actually get dead pixels if they don't order a pixel perfect monitor?
 
DF-1 said:
I've been thinking of getting one of these.

How are they for gaming? Not too slow on response time/input lag? I had a 30" screen and it was too slow for gaming on.

Also, how many people actually get dead pixels if they don't order a pixel perfect monitor?
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Almost no input lag because it doesn't have an on board pixel mapper to handle different resolutions which introduces a lot of latency or can at least. If you buy monitors without multiple inputs then you will avoid input latency in general altogether by the way.

I would say the VAST majority get near perfect monitors with maybe one or two dead pixels or none at all. Most also get monitors without lots of backlight bleed (even if you do , you can take off the frame and do a little DIY to eliminate most of it) and a fair amount can achieve 120hz without any kind of artifacts (I got 3 , I got lucky). I would say at least 95 percent can achieve 96hz as well.

At $269 the risk has never been as low as it is now. For $269 you seriously can not come close to anything in retail that's as good as this monitor. The only downside is the possibility of getting a monitor with defects which would require you to ship it back for another or a refund. Buying a SquareTrade Warranty will help with any long term issues that come up so you'll be covered there.
 
Godmachine said:
Almost no input lag because it doesn't have an on board pixel mapper to handle different resolutions which introduces a lot of latency or can at least. If you buy monitors without multiple inputs then you will avoid input latency in general altogether by the way.

I would say the VAST majority get near perfect monitors with maybe one or two dead pixels or none at all. Most also get monitors without lots of backlight bleed (even if you do , you can take off the frame and do a little DIY to eliminate most of it) and a fair amount can achieve 120hz without any kind of artifacts (I got 3 , I got lucky). I would say at least 95 percent can achieve 96hz as well.

At $269 the risk has never been as low as it is now. For $269 you seriously can not come close to anything in retail that's as good as this monitor. The only downside is the possibility of getting a monitor with defects which would require you to ship it back for another or a refund. Buying a SquareTrade Warranty will help with any long term issues that come up so you'll be covered there.
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I see, a lot of useful information thanks!

Do you personally game with yours?

I don't really mind blacklight bleed as much as other people, dead pixels (even though I never had one before) I imagine would irritate me.


How is the response times though? And I don't think I could reasonably ship it back to them all the way in korea...

I'm starting to really consider getting one now.. was thinking about the U2713hm/asus 1440 before, but they seem to have more input lag and their share of QA problems aswell.
 
DF-1 said:
I see, a lot of useful information thanks!

Do you personally game with yours?

I don't really mind blacklight bleed as much as other people, dead pixels (even though I never had one before) I imagine would irritate me.


How is the response times though? And I don't think I could reasonably ship it back to them all the way in korea...

I'm starting to really consider getting one now.. was thinking about the U2713hm/asus 1440 before, but they seem to have more input lag and their share of QA problems aswell.
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I do game , often , on mine. Dead pixels are more irritating if they are in the center of the screen and not many are reported in the center of these screens from what I can tell. The response times all depend on the seller you buy from. Most people stick with the ones that are more well known (Dream seller , Green sum) but experiences can vary. Most get prompt responsiveness and in general report back good customer service experiences but its a risk. You are not dealing with a multi national major corporation with a huge presence in your respective country , you are dealing with a third party vendor reselling "defective" (according to the order) panels. That's partly the reason I recommend a SquareTrade Warranty so if down the road the monitor goes to pot , you have some kind of service to use to attempt to replace it.

Dell panels are hit and miss. I use to love my U2410 but the IPS glow (PLS panels do not have any *glow* by the way) drove me nuts. Another bonus of these PLS panels is they lack the more aggressive AG coating MANY IPS/TN panels get these days. In fact outside of stripping off the coating yourself it doesn't get much better. Dell panels generally have pretty strong coatings so its likely best to avoid them unless that doesn't matter to you.

This monitor is a risk but its a calculated one and many people have taken the plunge with good experiences to report. But that's not to say there aren't folks who've had not so great experiences as well.

You have to weigh your willingness to take a risk in the end.
 
I think i'll go ahead and order one.. it does sound very promising.

the dell AG that i saw (u3011) didn't really bother me either, really. the only thing that does is stuttering in games, input lag (mouse/kb feels floaty, takes a while to move/respond) and pixel response times.

but what I meant by response times were the pixels (not the sellers), as in black to white, gray to gray, if that would be good for gaming, you say you do game, so I suppose they're pretty fast/un-noticable in ghosting.

I think i'll go with the $269 QNIX, my first ebay purchase, hopefully it'll be good! Thanks again for the info!
 
If you can do $300, you can get one from lovelypeople who will pay return shipping if anything happens in the first year.
 
DF-1 said:
I think i'll go ahead and order one.. it does sound very promising.

the dell AG that i saw (u3011) didn't really bother me either, really. the only thing that does is stuttering in games, input lag (mouse/kb feels floaty, takes a while to move/respond) and pixel response times.

but what I meant by response times were the pixels (not the sellers), as in black to white, gray to gray, if that would be good for gaming, you say you do game, so I suppose they're pretty fast/un-noticable in ghosting.

I think i'll go with the $269 QNIX, my first ebay purchase, hopefully it'll be good! Thanks again for the info!
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The pixel response times for PLS monitors in general are a tad less than IPS panels (the newer ones being released) so if you have a very keen eye you will notice a tad more smearing but honestly I have very sharp eyes and I really don't notice it. Its completely within the "good" range of a non-TN panel. Input lag like I said is non-existent on this panel because it only has one input so your GPU does 100 percent of the work which equals very low latency. Just make sure you get the DVI-D only version of this panel and you'll be all set. I also recommend against getting the tempered glass version as well , the Matte coating on this panel is pretty light and the contrast is very good as well.

Hope everything goes well for you. Report back your experience as well :)
 
 
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Well, I went ahead and bought the QNIX version from lovelypeople, matte, perfect pixel for $307.90

Its kinda funny that it says or better offer when any offer below the price is instantly refused...

green-sum raised his price from $269 and lovelypeople dropped theirs, with their return policy it made sense to go with them.

I can't wait to get it!

Edit: I saw that the title says matte... But the image in his description says glossy... Hope I get the right one.
 
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I (PLS panels do not have any *glow* by the way)
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:) in my testing I yet to find ONE PLS that has no glow. Less yes but glow none the same.

In the end your paying for a cheaply made 2560x1440 monitor. I think what upsets most is that you can pay $250-450 and get the same looking screen as you would with Dell,Asus,Acer,Hp,Viewsonic,Nec and with the same problems deadpix,blacklight bleed blah blah blah.

Just dont fall for that "there made the same as" crap. People in general are stupid. They read "This monitor has a A+ screen the other has a.. a.. A- screen in it yeah thats it". Then its OMG just a difference of going from + to -.

Over all there a great awesome buy. Whats very sad is we have to go to the 3rd world to buy it.. we can even make them that cheap here.
 
Neurofreeze said:
Could you provide a how-to link?
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EDIT: I'm going to play with mine a little more to see if I can fix the bleed. Here's a link to the FAQ on overclock.net. Fixes are in there: http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-korean-pls-monitor-club-qnix-x-star#


I'm not sure how EASY it is to get rid of backlight bleed. I took mine just about completely apart today...everything other than separating the panel layers...and my BLB is just the same as it was before I started. I added electrical tape to the frame of the panel as was suggested somewhere else but that did little other than make a nicer fit of the frame.

I'm gonna have to look for the post over on overclock.net where the guy shows a huge reduction in BLB...I can't recall at the moment what he did.


I've got 3 of these and I'm mostly finished now with one of them. I'm going to debezel and mount mine on the wall. Tearing this first was apart was pretty simple. I painted the aluminum frame of the panel a nice, flat black and it looks great. I just need to figure out how I'm going to "permanently" adhere the electronics to the back of the panel now that all the plastic is gone. (and not just adhere it, but adhere it in such a way that the vesa mounts are where they're supposed to be in the center of the panel...tho maybe as long as i'm close my mounts will rotate them where they need to be. *crosses fingers*
 
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Over all there a great awesome buy. Whats very sad is we have to go to the 3rd world to buy it.. we can even make them that cheap here.
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Korea has the fastest broadband in the world with many leading electronic device and auto manufacturers. How are they a third world country? And you are not going anywhere... you press the buy button on your screen and it magically appears on your door step in 3-4 days for free. Going to local best buy with putting on your pants, starting your car, spending gas, finding parking and paying tax and a massive price on a high quality A+ monitor which again is not manufactured here in the states takes way more money, time and effort.
 
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