Boo hoo, if being a delivery driver is such a bad deal, maybe they should have paid attention in school and learned something more useful. Face it, chauffeuring pizza is not a real job.
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Boo hoo, if being a delivery driver is such a bad deal, maybe they should have paid attention in school and learned something more useful. Face it, chauffeuring pizza is not a real job.
You are a fool, you don't read posts or maybe you can't read them, again, as I stated before, I always tip!
But not because you exist! I tip based upon your performance, not because you did the basic minimum of your basic job!
The sooner you realize that the sooner you will realize the world isn't holding you back it's your crappy entitled attitude!
I occasionally tip. When I tip, I don't care how much my order was; you're only getting $1-2. I work my butt off earning a living and every now and then, I like to splurge. But when I splurge, I splurge for me and not for you. Are you not getting paid enough? Then go talk to your boss. There are some places where I tip a lot more, but that's because the people know my name, know what I want before even I know it and really go above and beyond. But, if it's something like pizza; forget about it. This country is so screwed up. It's amazing that fast food roach houses like Mcdonalds have qualms about increasing minimum wage, yet the stupid ceo gets paid millions of dollars and stock holders wag their tails to tearing companies apart to make a quick profit at the cost of the rest of the economy. So, I do my part by tipping as little as I feel like so that you do your part and either find a better job or complain to your boss.
This!
Unless you stopped and pulled over just for me, I really see no reason you should get extra money for doing the job you are payed for!
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So many ungrateful people here it seems. Someone's gotta fill the roles of those jobs.
When I used to bartend back in the day, the customers that I knew took care of me, I took care of them. In most cases, they spent LESS money because I knew they tipped well.
When I used to bartend back in the day, the customers that I knew took care of me, I took care of them. In most cases, they spent LESS money because I knew they tipped well.
A food truck isn't food delivery, the truck is parked, you just buy your shit and move on.
I might feel bad if they actually didn't make a crap ton of money.
If you work at even a half decent chain restaurant, you're making probably atleast twice that of your other unskilled minimum wage counterparts. That's why they do the shitty job, it pays well.
If you work at even a half decent chain restaurant, you're making probably atleast twice that of your other unskilled minimum wage counterparts. That's why they do the shitty job, it pays well.
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no part of that entitles you to be a douchebag to that person.
Don't be a douchebag. If the service is good and the person is friendly, tip. Especially if the shirt is tight and the boobs are allllll right.
Most service jobs are being worked by younger people who either don't have any options or are just not sure wtf they want to do for a career.
Be nice. Golden rule and all that hat.
Most service jobs are being worked by younger people who either don't have any options or are just not sure wtf they want to do for a career.
Be nice. Golden rule and all that hat.
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I worked as a waiter for a short time... and while I did I didn't think it was anyone's responsibility to support me with tips... and now I sure as hell don't think it's mine to support anyone else.
You will probably get a standard tip from me if you do a good job... and if you do an excellent job, you may get a large tip...
But if you're making me a fucking sandwich at Subway, if I'm picking up a pizza myself, or any other of the insane things people seem to expect tips now you can go fuck yourself...
As for making % tip added to the bill a law...BULLSHIT
I've been given bills where the tip was included when I wasn't informed before hard that it would be... I refused to pay it because tipping is AN OPTION. It's a REWARD for good service.. not an entitlement. Period.
If anything they need to OUTLAW tipping entirely. Do away with any jobs that are legally exempt from being paid less than minimum wage and make employers pay them a fair wage instead.
Only in this ass backwards entitled country is tipping so prevalent. Travel abroad a bit and try to tip people like you are expected to here in the Statesand they will get OFFENDED AT THE ATTEMPT TO TIP THEM FOR DOING THEIR JOB!
Seriously. You aren't OWED a tip under any circumstances unless you've earned it.
But that's why the steak is $25, whereas a burger is only $6.
I tip, and I tend to tip generously, but I absolutely hate the mentality of tipping in the US. Tipping is expected because it subsidizes the pay for the service staff because restaurants are allowed to pay less than minimum wage. I disagree with that in principle, but I can accept it if it's the norm.
I like and appreciate how tipping is structured in Europe. In Austria and Germany, all costs are factored into the price of the items. There's no bullshit "your wage is this much less than the minimum, and tips make up that" for the service staff. If the services were beyond exceptional, you can leave a little something extra; but this is not common, and the "tip" (for lack of a better term) is included in the bill (and service tends to be much better than in the US on a general scale).
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Wait, why is it "my" responsibility to change the way the industry is structured? I'm not the one who accepts a low paying job with dreams of tips, I'm not the one who sits idly by letting the system beat me down and they look up at everyone with a pouty face, scratch that, and tell you with cold contempt if you don't give them more money they'll do something to your food.
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Because you refuse to accept the standard and accepted practice associated with the job. We tip servers and delivery drivers here, that's how the industry works, so either fall in line with that, or don't use it.
You are the one who thinks tipping is an affront to you on some level, so then change the industry or don't use it.
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My thoughts exactly. This is why i have stopped going to sit down restraunts in favor of places half way between fast food and a sit down. Zoup, Panera bread, qdoba, pizza etc. Food of higher quality then mcdonalds, subway, or taco bell -- but without the annoying wait stuff to drive up my costs.
I much prefer to pay first so i can walk out the moment i finish eating and i also prefer to get my own refills versus wait for a waiter to come back to the table. Also id like to point out that my friends who were waiters, were paid a lot more then i was making doing technical support. One of my friends averaged $11 an hour waiting at ponderosa, a buffet were people get their own food... don't even get me started if your female and work at hooters...
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You aren't making a social stand, or teaching the server a lesson about getting a better education, you are just being a cheap ass.
I hope that most of you do understand that food prices at restaurants would go up considerably if wages were considered in rather than tipping. In Europe, and a lot of places, tips are already calculated into the bill. Like some of you mentioning gratuity being added in, that's exactly what is happening in most places. You are not being given the decision of 'paying according to service'.
That being said, if you've never waited on tables, it would rock your world. I've read through quite a few of these posts about they shouldn't have taken the job, they knew what they were getting into, I shouldn't have to tip according to the bill etc. Well let me point a few things.
• A server’s job isn't to just bring you food and drink. It's also to make sure you actually get the right food, in an appreciable time, at a decent temperature (i.e. not cold). It also encompasses keeping that drink full, even when it's slurped immediately down.
• Yes, it is the server’s decision to take that job knowing his pay depends on the tips. It's also taken into context that most people are pretty humane to each other and have a general sense of society. Tipping is a societal norm here in the USA for servers for decades now.
• Most of you who have never waited tables have no idea the kind of stress a server endures. Keep in mind, at most places, their "job" is also to facilitate other patrons as well as their own tables. If we want to make it about a "job" does that mean I get to tell you no when your server can't get your refill and you're not my table? It's the flip side of the same coin....seems fair to me.
• Someone earlier mentioned it was like gambling with your wages if you took a server job. You know what? I actually do understand and appreciate that having worked in the business. Does not a gambling person do what they can to sway the odds in their favor? That being said, this next part will offend some most assuredly, so pucker up.
--When I waited tables, I, typically, did not want to have black people in my section. Now, I don't have anything against black people in particular, other than the fact that the majority of the time they didn't tip well at all. There, I said it, now read on……yes, it’s a stereotype, but one often proven right in my experience. I’m not sure why. From talking with friends (I won’t bother to mention some are black b/c that sounds racist of me doesn’t it?) I think it’s a culture thing. It’s also a vicious cycle of black people expecting bad service and servers giving it reinforcing both of each other’s impressions. All that said, the black people I served with didn’t even want to wait on black people a lot of times. So, yes I rigged my odds. I wouldn’t have dared tell my employer that though.
--With the pucker in full force there, let’s also branch out. I also didn’t want to wait on foreigners, be it white, black or orange w/blue polka dots. Why? Because in most other countries the tip is added into the bill already so they don’t tip well thinking the same thing has happened here. Canadians get a bad rap for that in the industry.
All that said, a lot of you are pointing out extremes as well. Having waited tables I’m cognizant of service as well and won’t leave a great tip just b/c I was there before. Don’t harass your server. Some folks will ask for something every frikkin time their server comes back, and it’s expected quickly. For instance, I understand wanting more dipping sauce b/c you’re out, but part of efficiency is checking the other tables in my section to make sure I get their stuff too or I could fall behind, giving bad service to others and thus affecting my tip output from others as well. But people are too narrow-minded and it’s all about them.
Look, it’s a crummy job sometimes. These people are there doing a job, not making what you think they are making. There are exceptions as there is in everything. There are bad servers out there as well as great ones. Most would pass as average, which is O K b/c with average service there shouldn’t be any reason you had a bad visit. Just b/c they didn’t entertain for the night as well isn’t a reason to give the decent service any less of a tip.
All that being said, I understand the article was about a food service truck. Tips should not be expected at fast food type places. My article was about sit down restaurants.
That being said, if you've never waited on tables, it would rock your world. I've read through quite a few of these posts about they shouldn't have taken the job, they knew what they were getting into, I shouldn't have to tip according to the bill etc. Well let me point a few things.
• A server’s job isn't to just bring you food and drink. It's also to make sure you actually get the right food, in an appreciable time, at a decent temperature (i.e. not cold). It also encompasses keeping that drink full, even when it's slurped immediately down.
• Yes, it is the server’s decision to take that job knowing his pay depends on the tips. It's also taken into context that most people are pretty humane to each other and have a general sense of society. Tipping is a societal norm here in the USA for servers for decades now.
• Most of you who have never waited tables have no idea the kind of stress a server endures. Keep in mind, at most places, their "job" is also to facilitate other patrons as well as their own tables. If we want to make it about a "job" does that mean I get to tell you no when your server can't get your refill and you're not my table? It's the flip side of the same coin....seems fair to me.
• Someone earlier mentioned it was like gambling with your wages if you took a server job. You know what? I actually do understand and appreciate that having worked in the business. Does not a gambling person do what they can to sway the odds in their favor? That being said, this next part will offend some most assuredly, so pucker up.
--When I waited tables, I, typically, did not want to have black people in my section. Now, I don't have anything against black people in particular, other than the fact that the majority of the time they didn't tip well at all. There, I said it, now read on……yes, it’s a stereotype, but one often proven right in my experience. I’m not sure why. From talking with friends (I won’t bother to mention some are black b/c that sounds racist of me doesn’t it?) I think it’s a culture thing. It’s also a vicious cycle of black people expecting bad service and servers giving it reinforcing both of each other’s impressions. All that said, the black people I served with didn’t even want to wait on black people a lot of times. So, yes I rigged my odds. I wouldn’t have dared tell my employer that though.
--With the pucker in full force there, let’s also branch out. I also didn’t want to wait on foreigners, be it white, black or orange w/blue polka dots. Why? Because in most other countries the tip is added into the bill already so they don’t tip well thinking the same thing has happened here. Canadians get a bad rap for that in the industry.
All that said, a lot of you are pointing out extremes as well. Having waited tables I’m cognizant of service as well and won’t leave a great tip just b/c I was there before. Don’t harass your server. Some folks will ask for something every frikkin time their server comes back, and it’s expected quickly. For instance, I understand wanting more dipping sauce b/c you’re out, but part of efficiency is checking the other tables in my section to make sure I get their stuff too or I could fall behind, giving bad service to others and thus affecting my tip output from others as well. But people are too narrow-minded and it’s all about them.
Look, it’s a crummy job sometimes. These people are there doing a job, not making what you think they are making. There are exceptions as there is in everything. There are bad servers out there as well as great ones. Most would pass as average, which is O K b/c with average service there shouldn’t be any reason you had a bad visit. Just b/c they didn’t entertain for the night as well isn’t a reason to give the decent service any less of a tip.
All that being said, I understand the article was about a food service truck. Tips should not be expected at fast food type places. My article was about sit down restaurants.
Really? A lot of servers are kids actually in school. And, yes, delivering pizzas is a job. If you don't think so, go get it yourself.
depends on what kind of dogs they have
same with the food truck
if its one of the more upscale deals where every thing is made to order ill tip 5~10%
i dont get that ether lots of these people are in highschool/collage
give em a break
if the service is good tip well
LOVE the "well dont take a shitty job" crap around here
HAVE ANY OF YOU tried to find work lately? any port in storm
I don't order pizza delivery. The only time I talk to delivery people is when they're whining about their "job" somewhere else. Fair's fair at that point.
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Tipping is nothing more then a pity scam to make shit appear cheaper or else you fuck over probably the guy who should be least fucked over in a restaurant. Pay people a normal wage bump up the price of your food a few cents and screw tipping. Whats even more shady is when tips are auto calculated to your bill it might as well just be called extra tax why not just add it to the price of my dam food so i can probably calculate the cost of the dinner.
People in a food truck are neither servers or delivery drivers. It is exactly akin to tipping at McDonalds.
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I can attest to this, I recon it is much like being an air traffic controller...
"send 36, send 37, how many bakes we got left"?
"7 but I think only 5 we can use"
"send 39"
"what's with 38"?
"well done ribeye, almost done, send 40"
"where are those fucking bakes, JASON, WE NEED THOSE SPUDS DUDE"!
loud crash and swearing from the back
I live in a weird area where a pizza delivery driver is much more likely to be 37 and nearly unemployable. If some go getter 17 year old is bringing me a pizza, fine, first work experience obviously, good job kid. That's not the situation around here though.
Digging ditches is hard, but don't expect tips.
You don't deserve a tip if you make a hourly wage. Tipping has gotten blown way out of porportion. It's more of a grattitude for excellent service than simply "you brought me a pizza so you deserve more than what you make."
I tip because I expect excellent service.
If I don't get it, I lessen that, and the determination of that is based solely
on the lucky sole that gets to help me.
I'm pretty generous with my tipping because I realize what working with the general
public is. A lot of people are dicks and treat others like crap. That has nothing to do
with tipping, its just the general population are unwashed dickholes
If I don't get it, I lessen that, and the determination of that is based solely
on the lucky sole that gets to help me.
I'm pretty generous with my tipping because I realize what working with the general
public is. A lot of people are dicks and treat others like crap. That has nothing to do
with tipping, its just the general population are unwashed dickholes
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The people on military bases who strategically and gently place your groceries in a bag, take them to your car while shooting the shit with you, and place them in your vehicle as well as asking if you want the eggs and bread with you, work ONLY FOR TIPS and no hourly wage. Off the base at some grocery stores they do it as a courtesy.
As far as tipping servers or delivery, 15% is standard for me unless they do something outstanding like put your food in a Togo box in front of you as we'll as give you extra bread to take home. Majority of my delivery orders get messed up for some odd reason. Togo orders get 10% on the bill. I did 20% dine-in but times are harder now so a compromise was made at 15%.
I have been a bus boy at fine dining, a waiter, bartender, and supervisor so tipping is a must since servers usually make average $4-$5 an hour (mostly chain restaurants) depending on your state.
http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm
So YES, before you go out to eat and expect great service and drop a shitty tip.....save your money, go to a fast food joint, and have it your way because we love to see you smile.
As far as tipping servers or delivery, 15% is standard for me unless they do something outstanding like put your food in a Togo box in front of you as we'll as give you extra bread to take home. Majority of my delivery orders get messed up for some odd reason. Togo orders get 10% on the bill. I did 20% dine-in but times are harder now so a compromise was made at 15%.
I have been a bus boy at fine dining, a waiter, bartender, and supervisor so tipping is a must since servers usually make average $4-$5 an hour (mostly chain restaurants) depending on your state.
http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm
So YES, before you go out to eat and expect great service and drop a shitty tip.....save your money, go to a fast food joint, and have it your way because we love to see you smile.
The delusion that every table is under the obligation to make sure you earn what you consider to be what you deserve despite the customers view (the only one that matters really) about service or lack there of.
This and this alone is why I don't tip. I paid for the food / service and if they don't feel it's a fair price then they should adjust it upwards. If I feel it still worthy of the price, I will still pay for the increased cost.
Tipping has gone too far and has became "I should have been tipped and I wasn't" mentality. Tipping isn't required and it is an act of courtesy. I will perhaps tip if I felt the services have been beyond the calling of the duty. Else wise, I do not tip. My wife works at a restaurant and I do not frequently tip at the restaurant where she works. My wife has gotten flak from one server because of me and she told him to go and fuck himself as she has nothing to do with it while she was working at the time.
I just can't believe this entitlement attitude of so many posting here! The idea that you feel your employer isn't paying you enough, so I as a customer am OBLIGATED to ensure your wages are increased is insane! If the service is bad, does my bill get cheaper ? No .. . .?
Why is it my responsibility to ensure you are happy with your earnings, and your job!?
Why is it my responsibility to ensure you are happy with your earnings, and your job!?
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You all sound REALLY awesome to go out with. My buddy doesn't leave tips at all because there's no difference in CA between the min wage and server's min wage, and because I'm with him, I usually get shitty service from bartenders.
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Fair enough. We'll increase the minimum wage and add it to your bill that way.
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Definitely the better option. Remove the middleman from the equation (tipping) and get straight to business. If the food is $10 with a mandatory $2.50 tip, just make the food $12.50.
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My problem is most food establishments pay minimum wage or worse, The real issue is why in America do we allow businesses pay so little and do not even want to tip the person working 40+ hours for next to nothing.