4670k vs 2600k is it worth it? my friend wants to buy my 2600k

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2wiced

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I would like some advice from you guys. I have a 2600k that is sitting at 4.8ghz. My friend offered to buy my cpu and motherboard. Would it be worth it to buy a 4670k and board? Or if I add about 100-150 dollars I could get 4770k. Would I gain anything? I've looked at benchmarks, but would like to know from your experience.

I would be helping my friend. But will I be losing out?
 
What do you mostly do with your computer? Unless the upgrade bug is calling, I'd stick with what you have.

2600k's at 4.8 are no slouches at anything. Switching to a 4670k, would be a side or downgrade at best.
 
I doubt you would notice a difference. Better off getting a new GPU IMO.
 
I'd stick with the 2600K. A 4670K would need to be at 4.4ish to match a 2600K in multithreaded uses, and at that speed it's going to really push out some really high temps - far higher than the 2600K.
 
Yeah I'm wondering about my 4670K purchase. Wondering if I should have stayed with my i7-950 at 4.45GHz.
 
Absolutely stick with the 2600k. I dont feel Ivy and Haswell bring enough to the table...they really dont bring anything to be honest. The IPC gains from Ivy and Haswell can be negated by its lack of OC potential and the crappy TIM between the die and heat spreader.
 
What if it was the 4770k?

The reason I asked is he offered me a damn good price to buy it. I have 2 gtx670s in sli and all I do is game. Looks like the upgrade is minimal.

I'd really like to play with a new cpu or maybe get into full water cooling. Havnt decided.

It would cost me 140 out of pocket to upgrade to haswell.
 
2wiced said:
What if it was the 4770k?

The reason I asked is he offered me a damn good price to buy it. I have 2 gtx670s in sli and all I do is game. Looks like the upgrade is minimal.

I'd really like to play with a new cpu or maybe get into full water cooling. Havnt decided.

It would cost me 140 out of pocket to upgrade to haswell.
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Between the likeliness of how high a 4770k will OC and the advantage of PCIe 3.0 i think you would see a very small increase in gaming performance...so...not worth it. Id put my money towards an SSD, GPUs, more/better WC gear, even a nicer case...before id go 2600k->4770k.
 
I'm in the same boat as I've just acquired a maximus Vi Extreme but determined it's not worth the "upgrade" at the moment. I will wait and see what else Haswell brings later this year. I believe I heard rumors of a refresh and maybe some new chips but I think the new ones are for socket 2011. Either way, with delidding seeming to be one of the only ways to keep temps under control with the current chips, I will wait to see if they fix it.
 
At 4.8 I too would probably hold off until the next gen cpu. Like some have said the difference is not much and maybe just a side trade. There is also the question of getting that Haswell to at least match cpu and surpass it. Can it? How hard would it be? That 4.8 number is pretty high.
 
coffaholic said:
I'm in the same boat as I've just acquired a maximus Vi Extreme but determined it's not worth the "upgrade" at the moment. I will wait and see what else Haswell brings later this year. I believe I heard rumors of a refresh and maybe some new chips but I think the new ones are for socket 2011. Either way, with delidding seeming to be one of the only ways to keep temps under control with the current chips, I will wait to see if they fix it.
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I highly, highly doubt they will fix it. It was like this with ivy and now the same with haswell. Intel won't release their haswell refresh till sometime next year.
 
I "upgraded" from a 2600K at 4.5GHz to a 4770K at 4.3GHz, and haven't noticed all that much of a difference. I got in on the Newegg deal for roughly ~$410 dollars for a motherboard and 4770K. I ended up keeping the 2600K for my HTPC (replaced an i7-860) so I wasn't able to recapture much of the expense; it was probably a waste. I'm now in the somewhat stupid position of having a Lynnfield i7, Sandy Bridge i7, Ivy Bridge i7 (laptop), and Haswell i7. Oops.

However, if I had been able to get over $300 dollars for my olds parts with no seller or shipping fees, I would upgrade again without hesitation. Motherboards get old, overclocked CPU's degrade over time, and it is just plain fun to play with new parts. I spent the $25 dollars for the Intel overclocking warranty, so if temps do kill it (they're really only bad under benchmark conditions with AVX), I will just get it replaced. No questions asked.

The best part is, every component carries over. Who knows how long DDR3 will be in use, so I figure I might as well put the stuff I have in the latest platform. It might not be the most practical decision, but it certainly is worth considering.
 
If it helps, I went from a 2600K at 4.6 to a 4770K at 4.4 (and I had to delid to get that)- and if I had to do it over again I wouldn't switch. So unless you are getting a really good deal on the old stuff, I wouldn't do it.
 
jolli said:
I "upgraded" from a 2600K at 4.5GHz to a 4770K at 4.3GHz, and haven't noticed all that much of a difference. I got in on the Newegg deal for roughly ~$410 dollars for a motherboard and 4770K. I ended up keeping the 2600K for my HTPC (replaced an i7-860) so I wasn't able to recapture much of the expense; it was probably a waste. I'm now in the somewhat stupid position of having a Lynnfield i7, Sandy Bridge i7, Ivy Bridge i7 (laptop), and Haswell i7. Oops.

However, if I had been able to get over $300 dollars for my olds parts with no seller or shipping fees, I would upgrade again without hesitation. Motherboards get old, overclocked CPU's degrade over time, and it is just plain fun to play with new parts. I spent the $25 dollars for the Intel overclocking warranty, so if temps do kill it (they're really only bad under benchmark conditions with AVX), I will just get it replaced. No questions asked.

The best part is, every component carries over. Who knows how long DDR3 will be in use, so I figure I might as well put the stuff I have in the latest platform. It might not be the most practical decision, but it certainly is worth considering.
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My friend offered me 300 cash flat for my msi gd65 and 2600k.

That is why I was considering the jump. So a jump to 4670k or 4770k is 50-100 cash
 
I'd make the jump for the simple fact of higher reseller next go around for minimal out of pocket.
 
The only reason why I would say go ahead and switch is if you want the newer Z87 MoBo with all the new goodies like PCIe 3.0 and more than 2 native SATA3 connectors. If those things are not of enough importance to you, then hang with your 2600K and tell your friend to go with a HWL.


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BYW... here are IPC equivalents of IB and HWL to match a SB at 4.8 GHz

IB should be around 4.5 - 4.6 GHz
HWL should be around 4.1 - 4.2 GHz

If you happen to get a HWL and, by stroke of sheer luck, it is capable of 4.5 - 4.8 GHz, then that would be roughly equal to a SB at 5.1 - 5.6 GHz. I suggest nobody hold their breath trying to attain the upper envelope of those clock speeds with HWL, as the odds will favor you dying from asphyxia.

Here's how I think of HWL:
3.9 to 4.0 GHz is very easy (copper chip)
4.1 to 4.2 GHz is easy (nickel chip)
4.3 - 4.4 GHz is uncommon (silver chip)
4.5 - 4.7 GHz is rare (gold chip)
4.8+ makes it exotic (platinum chip)
 
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2wiced said:
My friend offered me 300 cash flat for my msi gd65 and 2600k.

That is why I was considering the jump. So a jump to 4670k or 4770k is 50-100 cash
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2600k to 4670k is a downgrade IMHO. 4770k will be a sidegrade but as someone pointed out youll have higher resale value...
 
2wiced said:
What if it was the 4770k?

The reason I asked is he offered me a damn good price to buy it. I have 2 gtx670s in sli and all I do is game. Looks like the upgrade is minimal.

I'd really like to play with a new cpu or maybe get into full water cooling. Havnt decided.

It would cost me 140 out of pocket to upgrade to haswell.
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You must be buying a cheap motherboard for haswell then, or does that include your friend buying your verry nice x78 chipset board? I'm going haswell for the motherboard chipset mostly, but waiting for the next revision, I wouldn't bother if I had a x78 board though.
 
DejaWiz said:
The only reason why I would say go ahead and switch is if you want the newer Z87 MoBo with all the new goodies like PCIe 3.0 and more than 2 native SATA3 connectors. If those things are not of enough importance to you, then hang with your 2600K and tell your friend to go with a HWL.


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BYW... here are IPC equivalents of IB and HWL to match a SB at 4.8 GHz

IB should be around 4.5 - 4.6 GHz
HWL should be around 4.1 - 4.2 GHz

If you happen to get a HWL and, by stroke of sheer luck, it is capable of 4.5 - 4.8 GHz, then that would be roughly equal to a SB at 5.1 - 5.6 GHz. I suggest nobody hold their breath trying to attain the upper envelope of those clock speeds with HWL, as the odds will favor you dying from asphyxia.

Here's how I think of HWL:
3.9 to 4.0 GHz is very easy (copper chip)
4.1 to 4.2 GHz is easy (nickel chip)
4.3 - 4.4 GHz is uncommon (silver chip)
4.5 - 4.7 GHz is rare (gold chip)
4.8+ makes it exotic (platinum chip)
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Where did you get the comparison numbers? Have a link to a forum post or article? It sounds like an interesting read.
 
Justintoxicated said:
You must be buying a cheap motherboard for haswell then, or does that include your friend buying your verry nice x78 chipset board? I'm going haswell for the motherboard chipset mostly, but waiting for the next revision, I wouldn't bother if I had a x78 board though.
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I would buy from the Newegg combo. Seems like they offer pretty good boards
 
I would go for the 4770k, that gets you on the 1150 socket and you could potentially upgrade again as the haswell chipset matures, hopefully for the better.

If the dollars make sense for you, make the move!
 
2wiced said:
Where did you get the comparison numbers? Have a link to a forum post or article? It sounds like an interesting read.
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Just about every SB vs IB vs HWL article shows a 5-8% IPC improvement moving from SB to IB, and an 8-12% IPC improvement moving from SB to HWL.

I took the figures from [H]'s own HWL IPC review for the games results and then found the averages, which came out to 6% increase SB to IB, 10% increase IB to HWL, and 16.7% increase SB to HWL.

:)
 
I think it is worth it just to move to the newer platform so you can be ready for new processors as they are released.
 
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