Haswell Z87 SFF motherboard list

The mpcie combo card should support WiFi, if it's like the current one.
The question is whether it will also support an additional mSATA SSD... if not, ASRock still wins. When building a same compact gaming rig, losing the drive bays is a game changer. But if I were to upgrade components in my Prodigy, the Impact is the board to get.
 
I don't know. I'd like WiFi and I'd ideally like PS/2, but if you use neither then that's a fantastic board. I never really expected a WiFi card on a ROG board, to be honest.

The mpcie combo card should support WiFi, if it's like the current one.


PC Perspective is reporting that the Impact has WiFi ac and Bluetooth 4.0 onboard as part of the mPCIe Combo II Card (link). I don't see any antennae though. Did they just word this sentence wrong and are actually saying that you could install a WiFi/BT card in the NGFF slot? See text below.


The board also includes a SupremeFX Impact sound card and a mPCIe Combo II card. The SupremeFX Impact module uses ELNA audio capacitors and features a headphone amplifier and 115dB SNR (Signal-to-Noise Ratio). Further, the mPCIe Combo II card provides a NGFF (think of this as next-generation mSATA) slot as well as 802.11ac Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless radios.
 
PC Perspective is reporting that the Impact has WiFi ac and Bluetooth 4.0 onboard as part of the mPCIe Combo II Card (link). I don't see any antennae though. Did they just word this sentence wrong and are actually saying that you could install a WiFi/BT card in the NGFF slot? See text below.

It appears all Asus MPCIE Combo II's have a MPCIE slot(for wifi) and a NGFF slot(for NGFF SSDs). It appears the Impact will come with the wifi module already installed where as some RoG boards that have MPCIE Combo II DO NOT come with the wifi module(Gene).

Edit: As for antennas, after digging around it looks like they are going to be just like on the Maximus V/VI Extreme. The antennas are detachable(ie: not fixed to the motherboard, but insertable into the I/O shield). That is why there is that small empty space at the top of the board.
 
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The question is whether it will also support an additional mSATA SSD... if not, ASRock still wins. When building a same compact gaming rig, losing the drive bays is a game changer. But if I were to upgrade components in my Prodigy, the Impact is the board to get.

It appears to have NGFF and not mSATA. You can actually see NGFF printed on the bottom slot in this link http://wimages.vr-zone.net/2013/06/IMG_2820-1024x768.jpg, much more clearly seen in this photo http://www.overclock.net/t/1389774/lightbox/post/20113104/id/1494980

I believe theoretically, possibly with an adapter, you may be able to use a msata ssd on a NGFF slot, but don't quote me on that.

As for NGFF drives, Cruical has a M500 480GB NGFF floating around. Several others have 480GB NGFF drives floating around as well. I also believe its a possibility we may see "1TB" NGFF drives, or at the very least somewhere in the 768GB range.
 
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It appears to have NGFF and not mSATA. You can actually see NGFF printed on the bottom slot in this link http://wimages.vr-zone.net/2013/06/IMG_2820-1024x768.jpg, much more clearly seen in this photo http://www.overclock.net/t/1389774/lightbox/post/20113104/id/1494980

I believe theoretically, possibly with an adapter, you may be able to use a msata ssd on a NGFF slot, but don't quote me on that.

As for NGFF drives, Cruical has a M500 480GB NGFF floating around. Several others have 480GB NGFF drives floating around as well. I also believe its a possibility we may see "1TB" NGFF drives, or at the very least somewhere in the 768GB range.
Good eye. Evidently, those drives will arrive in Q2.

 

The Intel drive was supposed to ship in Q2, it may have shipped to OEMs, but Q2 is almost over and it obviously hasn't made its way to retail.

Same way for the Crucial M500 NGFF/M.2. It started shipping in April, but it appears it hasn't made it to retail channels either.

At Computex, there have been A LOT of manufacturers showing off M.2/NGFF drives. Still no word on when any will hit retail, but it is speculated that it will be some time in Q3.

Also to note, so far drives have been announced in 20mm, 42mm(currently up to ~256GB) and 80mm(currently up to ~512GB) , but not the 120mm length. Its the 120mm that could be very interesting.
 
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The UK is not having much luck with it's z87/h87 ITX motherboard stock.

I originally wanted the gigabyte z87n-wifi since it was going to be a solid board with a 3 year warranty. However that board has been overdue since the 24th May 2013, so it's approaching 2 weeks overdue. The worst thing is that the retailer has no idea when they're going to receive any stock.

I have swapped out to an ASRock Z87e-itx which is at least in stock with some retailers. I'm pleased that this board has a good layout and has a better sound chip. However I'm not happy about its higher price (£25 more) considering it only comes with a 1 year warranty which is a disappointment considering that asus, gigabyte and msi provide at least 3 year warranty on their boards.

It's unfortunate that stock/logistical issues are limiting my choice. I am not willing to wait a few weeks extra to complete my build since I already waited 3 weeks for haswell. I also have the rest of the parts I need to complete my build.
I'm guessing stock is tight until the new PCH is properly implemented since it has some issues with certain USB 3.0 drives when resuming from sleep.
 
I'm guessing stock is tight until the new PCH is properly implemented since it has some issues with certain USB 3.0 drives when resuming from sleep.

I really suprised they went to production with those bugs. It was known for a long time now, and supposedly already fixed from what I read a while ago. I guess it they didn't make it to OEMs yet.
 
I really suprised they went to production with those bugs. It was known for a long time now, and supposedly already fixed from what I read a while ago. I guess it they didn't make it to OEMs yet.

To be honest, the bug apparently only affect a "small subset of USB SuperSpeed thumb drives" which to be honest won't affect me since I don't have any usb 3 sticks.

Intel is planning to have dealt with it by 31 July 2013 which is quite a long time ahead.
So to be honest I don't really know what's up with the stock/logistical issues.
 
I really suprised they went to production with those bugs. It was known for a long time now, and supposedly already fixed from what I read a while ago. I guess it they didn't make it to OEMs yet.

It is common for new chipsets to have minor errata that is fixed in later revisions. Since this is really minor errata Intel went ahead and shipped it. If they didn't ship the C1 stepping everything would have been delayed until July/August and all the C1 steppings would have to have been scrapped. This errata is really a non issue.
 
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To be honest, the bug apparently only affect a "small subset of USB SuperSpeed thumb drives" which to be honest won't affect me since I don't have any usb 3 sticks.

And further than that, it only matters if the USB SuperSpeed thumb drives are connected when the computer goes into sleep mode. So even if you do have one of the affected drives, just remove it before it goes to sleep and you'll never have any issue with it. And even when the issue happens, there has been no evidence of data loss on the drives anyway.
 
I'm so torn about Haswell now that I've seen that ROG Impact board... On one hand, I'd just need to buy another [x] chipset board for whenever DDR4 hits mainstream ITX boards, and from what I've read on Toms', it seems like a sidegrade to Ivy. On the other hand though... That's the meanest, prettiest motherboard I've ever seen, and it's got an NGFF slot. :/
 
I'm so torn about Haswell now that I've seen that ROG Impact board... On one hand, I'd just need to buy another [x] chipset board for whenever DDR4 hits mainstream ITX boards, and from what I've read on Toms', it seems like a sidegrade to Ivy. On the other hand though... That's the meanest, prettiest motherboard I've ever seen, and it's got an NGFF slot. :/
according to anandtech, I shouldn't be upgrading my ivy bridge pc unless I'm just a hardcore junkie. Looks like I could get an Ncase and reuse my parts. But what should I do with the prodigy?

Or get a Prodigy M with a mATX board and become a prodigy collector.
 
What motherboard these days do NOT have 5.1 sound?

Server boards. As far as 5.1 vs 7.1...7.1 analog jacks are common, but there are several boards that only have audio out for only 5.1 and nothing analog else I/O wise.
 
this page lists the Asus Z87i-Deluxe at around $230 - hoping for $200 in states here

probably going to place the impact at $300 I'm guessin :shrug:
 
not sure if this has been posted, but the ASRock Z87M OC Formula should be available in the States on 6/18 for an MSRP of $193.99

source: emailed ASRock to ask
 
That is insane. It goes to show mITX isn't crippled for overclocking and the ROG Impact is certainly capable.
 
If that picture is of him and the attempt it looked like he used liquid nitrogen. So not as impressive?
 
It's more that the board itself didn't have issues to hit the clocking potential. It appears to be just as capable as its larger brothers to get the most out of your components. You have to bare in mind the the maximus VI extreme also only reached around 4GHz in the same cooling conditions and the WR is 5.3GHz for the V extreme.
 
I am itching to put together an mITX haswell pc, and waiting for the Asus motherboards to arrive has me keeping a close eye on all the local stores.

Today I noticed a new board that I've not seen before - the Z87i-Pro

Is this a new board? Or just the European version of the Z87i-Deluxe? I'm in Sweden and haven't seen the Deluxe show up anywhere over here. The Pro however, is actually in stock.

I've seen it mentioned on european stores. The specs are listed here:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus...-raid-pcie-30-(x16)-bluetooth-dp-hdmi-mini-it

It's also been added to this motherboard roundup thing here:
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?page=0&itemid=1007
 
Thanks for those links. I did see it reported somewhere as rumour, but was waiting for official clarification if it's a separate board, a replacement or just a rename. I'll change the first post.
 
hey which ones have crazy audio? i want crazy audio, im bored already with this intel mobo, want something new (with crazy onboard audio)
 
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hey which ones have crazy audio? i want crazy audio, im bored already with this intel mobo, want something new (with crazy onboard audio)

ok ok i've read the first post.. (what? everybody feels lazy sometimes.. i got no free pass here huh? no excuse for being lazy huh? geez)

hey thanks WISK bro, really cool :)
 
Wanted to use ASUS H87i-plus motherboard with Corsair H90 watercooler. Can't install the rear support bracket on the motherboard because Asus put a bunch of capacitors and other stuff around the mounting holes! The bracket won't lay flat. Sloppy design on Asus part - any large heatsink will have a problem. Returning that board and ordering ASRock checked photos of its rear and it should be all clear of hardware.
 
Wanted to use ASUS H87i-plus motherboard with Corsair H90 watercooler. Can't install the rear support bracket on the motherboard because Asus put a bunch of capacitors and other stuff around the mounting holes! The bracket won't lay flat. Sloppy design on Asus part - any large heatsink will have a problem. Returning that board and ordering ASRock checked photos of its rear and it should be all clear of hardware.

Is it sloppy or just their way of steering people to their more expensive Z87.
 
Wanted to use ASUS H87i-plus motherboard with Corsair H90 watercooler. Can't install the rear support bracket on the motherboard because Asus put a bunch of capacitors and other stuff around the mounting holes! The bracket won't lay flat. Sloppy design on Asus part - any large heatsink will have a problem. Returning that board and ordering ASRock checked photos of its rear and it should be all clear of hardware.

Could you show photos? Did you try in all orientations?
 
Is it sloppy or just their way of steering people to their more expensive Z87.

Looks sloppy to me. ASRock board's back looks completely bare. ASUS went and put a bunch of stuff on there...

Could you show photos? Did you try in all orientations?

There are only two ways the bracket can go in, and yes, I tried both of them. The main problem is a large transistor half-way between two mounting holes - it's pretty thick, and the bracket won't lay flat. Even if I notched the bracket, there are small capacitors next to the mounting holes that would prevent it from laying flat...

I do have pictures, but I haven't had time to post them somewhere.

See ASRock H87M-ITX pics on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157386
Photo #4 shows the back of the motherboard. Only one mounting hole has something near it, and H90's bracket shouldn't be too close to it (if it is, I'll just file the bracket down a little).

Coincidentally, the GIGABYTE GA-Z87N-WIFI (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128615) or MSI Z87I LGA (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130696) boards backs looks clear as well.

However, ASRock Z87E-ITX (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157374) - a more expensive board - does have microchips on the back, between the mounting holes - may have a problem with H90 support bracket as well.
 
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