Silverstone SST-FT03-Mini (Mini-Itx)

How does the case fan work then, with an ATX PSU in the way?

GTX780 is too long btw, you'd need to cut the case and then the fan filter won't have anywhere to clip.

I am aware of that. I already made cut-outs for GTX780... tight fit :D
Regarding PSU i was thinking to let it breath in air from beneath. Ofcourse i'll be dumping heat inside the case...and that's actually why i'm asking!
 
Ah I see :)

Maybe it'll be fine with a platinum PSU. Then it would deliver similar heat into the case as an H60 or so. But you need some way to influence the speed of the PSU fan. They are designed with the assumption that they are venting out, so it will run slow if it's getting direct fresh air.
 
I was thinking about something along the lines of this!

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There's no way you could possibly route all the power cables out of the PSU and around the motherboard. The space there is very limited as-is, not to mention you'd have to use the case without the covers due to the power cable sticking out the side. As others have noted, you'd just be blowing hot air around inside the case, which would also be a huge dust magnet
 
also, thats only a 400W psu. there are two perfectly good 450W SFX psus available that fit the case very well...
 
So generall opinion is that it won't work?
BTW i won't be using this PSU. I'm waiting for XFX Core 550W to arrive.
SFX-psu will be too loud, 120 mm fan is much nicer1
 
Anyone who has FT03 mini with a open shroud cooling graphic card? and is there any heat problem if you use that system?

Thinking about the MSI GTX 770 10" graphic card. It will be a very nice card in the FT03 mini :)
 
Anyone who has FT03 mini with a open shroud cooling graphic card? and is there any heat problem if you use that system?

Thinking about the MSI GTX 770 10" graphic card. It will be a very nice card in the FT03 mini :)

Since there is no vents in front of the card for intake, then with open shroud cards, the hot exhaust is pulled back around to the front of the fans.
 
Anyone who has FT03 mini with a open shroud cooling graphic card? and is there any heat problem if you use that system?

Thinking about the MSI GTX 770 10" graphic card. It will be a very nice card in the FT03 mini :)

Hello, this person posted a video on youtube where he tries some stresstests on his FT03 mini with an open shroud card. The test starts at around 18:00.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlMvAYJ3owA
 
Hello, this person posted a video on youtube where he tries some stresstests on his FT03 mini with an open shroud card. The test starts at around 18:00.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlMvAYJ3owA

Thanks, that's was exactly what I was looking for! :)
But too bad there isn't enough cooling to the gfx card :/

I will love if silverStone would make a case between the FT03-mini and FT03 fortress. Like a FT03-mini just a bit bigger (still ITX) but with better cooling :cool:

But i think i will go with the FT03 mATX then.. Like the design, and the hiding slot-in drive in the front.
 
Thanks, that's was exactly what I was looking for! :)
But too bad there isn't enough cooling to the gfx card :/

There is enough airflow, closed shroud cards work fine. It's a shame that so few graphic card OEMs stay with the reference design unless they are forced to (like with the Titan).
 
I put a 40mm fan just above the video card in the vent holes.
I use galaxy's 770, which is a overclocked version, resulting 90C in stress test and around 80C in real game test. GPU boost is still effective and result even higher clock than rated boost clock.
Personally, I think it is acceptable, especially noisy level is ok even in full load.
If you want more serious cooling, I think high rpm 40mm fan usually used in 1U server could help, but they are very noisy.
 
I just remembered, in this topic, actually someone else managed to lower his GPU temperature by simply placing some sort of paper/plastic just to redirect some air coming from the fan to the GPU.

Also, has anyone tried to contact silver stone for replacement for the panel clips?
I tried sending an email ([email protected] ) as Wisk suggested some pages ago, but I haven't been successful. I also tried to contact them through the "contact" section on their website. :/
 
That's really odd. When I needed a new front panel for my SG05 I got a reply the next day with details how to order and pay. Think it took a while to arrive, but was all easy.
 
That's really odd. When I needed a new front panel for my SG05 I got a reply the next day with details how to order and pay. Think it took a while to arrive, but was all easy.

That's quite odd. :/
Well, how did you order it?
 
Just by email

Dear Sir/Madam, I have accidentally broken the power on/off and reset
buttons on my SG05-450. Is it possible to get these buttons replaced
or even a new front panel? Kind regards,

On Thu, January 19, 2012 09:24, Sales / SilverStone Technology Hamburg wrote:
> Hello Mr. ---,
>
> many thanks for your request.
> Yes it is possible to purchase spare parts directly over us.
>
> If you should be further interested in buying these parts pls let me
> know some details:
>
> - delivery address
> - picture of the exact parts
>
> Best regards
>
> Kerstin Schulz
> SilverStone Technology GmbH
> Brandstücken 43
> 22549 Hamburg
> Germany
>
> E-Mail: [email protected]
> Website: www.silverstonetek.de

Then she sent me a PDF invoice and I transferred the money and some weeks later I got the part :)
 
haha nice! not sure what the advantage of that is, but i look forward to seeing it completed and see what kind of temps you get.
 
Am I the only one noticing the fact that the PSU will starve the case of basically all its airflow?
 
Am I the only one noticing the fact that the PSU will starve the case of basically all its airflow?

exactly, thats why im wondering. i mean you could hypothetically have the same airflow, it will just be a bit warmer and coming out in the wrong direction. a gold psu doesnt produce too much heat so the delta shouldnt be too great. i still dont see the point of that personally but i am excited to see. without the psu over the cpu he also has room for a bigger cpu heat sink which could make do with less airflow, or a big fan if he cuts the front panel and uses a low profile heatsink. there are a lot of things you can do with the psu moved down there, so thats why id like to see it finished. :)
 
Might seem like a silly question, but if you're using ATX PSUs for more power, why are you using a 400W unit, when you can get 450W SFX ones?
 
You gonna keep it open?!?

Nope. Will need to make an extension so i can route power down to the PSU...
Right now it's open on that side for testing purposes!
Ofcourse i will need to make som sort of perforation or fangrille to let warm air escape.
Both PSU and CPU-fan are blowing out of the case!

Might seem like a silly question, but if you're using ATX PSUs for more power, why are you using a 400W unit, when you can get 450W SFX ones?

Not silly at all! There are mainly two reasons for ATX-PSU:
- Bigger = quieter fan
- 550W is 100W more than most powerful SFX-PSU

That 400W-supply is only there for measurement! There are no cables attached to it!

Right now it's up and running! Installing Win8, Steam etc.
Running quiet and cool without sidepanel.
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are you gonna perforate the side panel in front of the gpu too? youre gonna need it for sure.
 
are you gonna perforate the side panel in front of the gpu too? youre gonna need it for sure.

There is already a small opening for slot-in drive. If it's not enough i'll probably need to make a bigger opening...
 
Hey guys, I was wondering about the open shroud problem, and have a question:

If the heat sinks are alined so that the heat is blown sideways instead of downwards when mounted in the FT-03 mini case, would the temperatures be affected as much?

I found that the Inno3D GeForce GTX 770 HerculeZ 2000 fits both the length requirements and have different facing heatsinks.

It's 255mm, or 10.03 Inches, and has heat-sinks that do not blow downward but sideways.

http://www.inno3d.com/product/gtx770_hz2000.html
 
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has heat-sinks that do not blow downward but sideways.

From the pictures in your link, it looks like a normal open shroud cooling solution. Which direction the heatsink is pointing doesn't change the fact that heat will be pulled back around and back into the front of the card.
 
Right now it's up and running! Installing Win8, Steam etc.
Running quiet and cool without sidepanel.
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@Borz - That's just silly. The only reason I would consider doing something like that is so that I could use a no-fan PSU and maybe even a no-fan CPU heatsink if possible. In your setup, I would consider moving the PSU outside the case and making your own cables if they're not long enough. Wrap them in some wire tubing and drill a hole somewhere in the bottom to get the wires in. Without the case panels on, this case is no better than a plank of wood. I'ts not exactly the best case for anything, but it's damn pretty.

@yensteel - NO that video card will not work. The whole idea is that the GPU spits out it's hot air out the TOP and not into the case itself. It's gotta have a totally shut shroud save maybe a tiny vent for the power cables and the fan inlet. The ONLY exception for a performance card may be this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121768 Even then I don't think it's worth the risk of running hot just to grab a little more space.

@MeowMeow - Literally the exact two posts before you discussed how that style GPU HSF is NOT recommended. Unless you're not expecting to do ANY intensive 3D anything on your computer, don't even ask anymore. I and many others were just like you and yensteel, 'oh but maybe this will work, look it's got holes here and here...' NO it does NOT work. I experimented plenty then just bought a GTX670 and was done with it. You don't have many options. Either a GTX660, 670 or the 700's if they'll fit, or a non-performance card/on board GPU. There really are almost NO other options for this case.


For everyone, Silverstone has now sent me THREE USB 3.0 top panel wire harness and they're all the same. None of them work beyond USB 2.0. They don't even get recognized as USB 3.0. Can anyone confirm that the two USB 3.0 ports on top of the case only work at USB 2.0?
 
eatkebab, can you tell me exactly which version drivers you have for usb?

(edit, I don't have any usb3 device here at home, so can't confirm. But I read somewhere about driver version having an influence on usb3 functionality).
 
I feel like it's more to do with the actual cable because all the other USB 3.0 ports on the P8Z77i work great. The case ports pick up the device, but then drop it for unknown reasons...

Two sets of drivers, ASMedia and Intel. Both drive a pair of USB 3.0 and I believe the 4 other USB 2.0 ports are Intel driven.

ASMedia USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller - 0096
Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller - 0096
Driver vers 6.2.9200.16604 5/3/2013

Generic USB Hub
Driver vers 6.2.9200.16384 6/21/2006

It seems like the intel and ASMedia drivers are the same but I just used the ASMedia updater and it did something then ask me to restart and it still doesn't work...maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?
 
have you tried getting a front port usb3 header from somewhere else to test if youre even getting usb3 off that port on the mobo?
 
Yeah I tried it with my last cases connector. Works fine...

Ah, should let Silverstone know this. Tell them exactly which motherboard you have and devices you are trying to connect. If there's something wrong with their design or manufacturing, then they will just keep sending you the same stuff with each RMA. But if you get them to test the same hardware as you have, perhaps they can discover a new issue that they hadn't seen with their own testing hardware?
 
Ah, should let Silverstone know this. Tell them exactly which motherboard you have and devices you are trying to connect. If there's something wrong with their design or manufacturing, then they will just keep sending you the same stuff with each RMA. But if you get them to test the same hardware as you have, perhaps they can discover a new issue that they hadn't seen with their own testing hardware?

That's what I tried doing but as far as I can tell, they have teenagers working for them in the RMA department. They don't know and can't do anything at all but keep sending me garbage. I'm just waiting for someone else to confirm that theirs doesn't work either so that I can make sure I'm not an isolated case before I try to contact someone higher up. It's basically false advertising at this point. I particularly need the USB3 also and it's just a little inconvenient to pop the lid and hunt for a port every time. Also ugly leaving an extension hanging out the top.
 
@Borz - That's just silly. The only reason I would consider doing something like that is so that I could use a no-fan PSU and maybe even a no-fan CPU heatsink if possible. In your setup, I would consider moving the PSU outside the case and making your own cables if they're not long enough. Wrap them in some wire tubing and drill a hole somewhere in the bottom to get the wires in. Without the case panels on, this case is no better than a plank of wood. I'ts not exactly the best case for anything, but it's damn pretty.

@yensteel - NO that video card will not work. The whole idea is that the GPU spits out it's hot air out the TOP and not into the case itself. It's gotta have a totally shut shroud save maybe a tiny vent for the power cables and the fan inlet. The ONLY exception for a performance card may be this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121768 Even then I don't think it's worth the risk of running hot just to grab a little more space.

@MeowMeow - Literally the exact two posts before you discussed how that style GPU HSF is NOT recommended. Unless you're not expecting to do ANY intensive 3D anything on your computer, don't even ask anymore. I and many others were just like you and yensteel, 'oh but maybe this will work, look it's got holes here and here...' NO it does NOT work. I experimented plenty then just bought a GTX670 and was done with it. You don't have many options. Either a GTX660, 670 or the 700's if they'll fit, or a non-performance card/on board GPU. There really are almost NO other options for this case.


For everyone, Silverstone has now sent me THREE USB 3.0 top panel wire harness and they're all the same. None of them work beyond USB 2.0. They don't even get recognized as USB 3.0. Can anyone confirm that the two USB 3.0 ports on top of the case only work at USB 2.0?

My case does the same thing. In fact my portable 3.0 hd has to be plugged into the motherboard (same as you), otherwise is times out and wont transfer files.
 
My case does the same thing. In fact my portable 3.0 hd has to be plugged into the motherboard (same as you), otherwise is times out and wont transfer files.

And when it does transfer, it's only reading at USB 2. USB 2 devices work just fine, but even using a USB 3 device in USB 2 mode (if it even reads it at all), it will fail in the middle of a transfer (anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes).

Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Now to see what can be done and why this is happening. I have a feeling it's the PCB because the port itself looks fine and within regulation USB 3.
 
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