ViewSonic VP2770: 2560x1440 Semi-Glossy PLS

Ktf Fang said:
So just played some street fighter IV on this and the input lag is good but noticeable. I was hoping it would be good enough on ultrafast response time for street fighter but I'd say there is about 3-4 frames of lag. For people who don't play fighting games, this shouldn't matter.

BTW does putting the response time on ultrafast instead of standard have any effects on the rest of the display performance?
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Hmm, that would be 48-64ms.

Prad measured it with an oscilloscope as 7.2ms plus 5.2ms for the average pixel response which would be 12.4ms - less than 1 frame.
 
On this review the VP2770 had the fastest response and it was the third best in input lag. So far very happy with mine.
 
citizen__erased said:
Like the look of this monitor. How are you finding it for backlight bleed?
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The first one I received was better than any of the Dell U2713HMs I tried but it still was too much for me (and the uniformity was bad). I should receive my replacement tomorrow.

Take a look at NCX's post on the previous page, his monitor has practically no light bleed. And the reviews from PRAD and Tom's also had minimal light bleed. So it seems the QC at Viewsonic is better than at Dell.
 
Just found a great price on the Viewsonic too, only £499. If I had my refund money back for the Dell, I'd grab one.

Edit: Dammit, just went up £17 :(
 
I just got my replacement and while there is practically no light bleed and the uniformity is good. There are 2 dead pixels in the middle of the screen. So it's going back again....

But at least I'm making progress (unlike with the Dells)
 
Sounds like you are getting closer to getting a decent screen. Really shouldn't have to send even one back though. Five years ago I bought my 2407wfp and the first one I received was perfect! Standards must have dropped since :(
 
citizen__erased said:
Sounds like you are getting closer to getting a decent screen. Really shouldn't have to send even one back though. Five years ago I bought my 2407wfp and the first one I received was perfect! Standards must have dropped since :(
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I agree. It's ridiculous that paying $700 doesn't get you a monitor without some flaw these days. I still use a Samsung 245BW from 6 years ago that has never had problems and I bought it for $250...:mad:

If this replacement also has problem I think I'm going to give up on a new monitor for now...which sucks because after trying out all these 27" screens, my 24" seems small :(
 
are you folks buying this monitor for gaming? I thought 120hz was a must for gaming.
 
TroyX said:
are you folks buying this monitor for gaming? I thought 120hz was a must for gaming.
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I don't have the GPU power to run my favorite games at 120Hz at 1440p at optimal settings. Nor will I ever spend that much $$$ on a GPU.

I like everything about the new PLS/IPS screens except their poor QC (dead pixels, light bleed, uniformity problems, etc.).

My monitor uses are also as follows:

everyday use (browsing, word, etc.) > movies > games > design work.

I played games (Crysis 3, Dishonered, Metro Last Light) on the U2713HMs and the VP2770 and I had no problems with the lag (i.e. not noticeable to me). Keep in mind I don't play FPS in multiplayer at all.
 
kabobi said:
I don't have the GPU power to run my favorite games at 120Hz at 1440p at optimal settings. Nor will I ever spend that much $$$ on a GPU.

I like everything about the new PLS/IPS screens except their poor QC (dead pixels, light bleed, uniformity problems, etc.).

My monitor uses are also as follows:

everyday use (browsing, word, etc.) > movies > games > design work.

I played games (Crysis 3, Dishonered, Metro Last Light) on the U2713HMs and the VP2770 and I had no problems with the lag (i.e. not noticeable to me). Keep in mind I don't play FPS in multiplayer at all.
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from what I have been reading from people who are gaming with 120hz monitors is that you don't need 120fps to feel the smoothness of 120hz monitors.

are they right or wrong?

btw, what is the highest contrast ratio you are getting on this monitor? I always preferred monitors with high contrast ratio, I am now leaning more on VA panels due to 3000-4000:1 static contrast ratio.
 
Both the Dell U2713HM and the Viewsonic VP2770 get 800-900:1. So yes, they are much lower than VA panels. I personally just like the look+feel of PLS/IPS more though after seeing VAs in person. I don't know what it's due to but I just prefer them.

I have never actually used a 120Hz monitor in person. But I don't have a problem with the smoothness of the two PLS/IPS monitors I mentioned.
 
Post 2011 120-144hz monitors have worse colors and grainy matte coatings vs older models such as the asus vg236h and the samsung 120hz displays and I often play console games. The 2560x1440 res is super helpful for video editing and school work so I prefer 1440p displays now.

One really needs to be able to output 100fps+ to make a 120hz display worthwhile.

The VP2770 I tested had a 950:1 contrast ratio, as did the PB278Q. My matte 96hz Qnix does 1000:1 but the blacks don't look as deep paired with a glossy black bezel vs. the VP2770+PB278Q's matte, dark gray bezel.
 
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Seeing a few good deals on the Viewsonic currently. Tempted to pull the trigger on one.

Edit: ordered one for £493. Fingers crossed its better than the dell I returned...
 
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I got my third replacment. No dead pixels but there is still light bleed on the top and bottom right corners. It's mostly IPS glow I believe because it shifts when I change my view angle but the right side of the screen is still more washed out/brighter than the left side. Only visible in dark/black screens.

I'm starting to think maybe IPS/PLS isn't for me. Color and light uniformity are really important to me, followed by black levels. So maybe a VA panel? (but I definitely want a1440p screen, which I don't believe exist in VA panels?) Thoughts anyone?

I'm going to keep this Viewsonic for a couple of weeks to see how my opinion of it changes, but I'm open to suggestions.
 
Hmm, this is not what I wanted to hear after just ordering one :( I'm very picky when it comes to monitors so I'm worried I won't be happy with my purchase. Fingers crossed anyway.
 
citizen__erased said:
Hmm, this is not what I wanted to hear after just ordering one :( I'm very picky when it comes to monitors so I'm worried I won't be happy with my purchase. Fingers crossed anyway.
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Well, you got it for a lot cheaper than I did. I think for the price you paid I would be content with the panel currently in my hands.

I don't notice the light bleed at all except in very dark movie/game scenes. And even then it's not yellow like the Dell's was, it's just white glow.

So at this point, I will keep this for a couple of weeks, then replace it with another or return it.
 
I returned mine for the same reasons. IPS glow is laughable and I have no idea how anyone tolerates it.

The only thing holding me back from getting a VA is the 16:9 resolution of currently available panels.
 
Well that makes me feel a little more confident :) It was borderline whether I kept my second dell, so as long as the viewsonic is better then I'll no doubt keep it.

I like VA panels best too, but they don't seem to use them much these days. There certainly isn't a 1440p VA screen currently on the market :(
 
kabobi said:
I got my third replacment. No dead pixels but there is still light bleed on the top and bottom right corners. It's mostly IPS glow I believe because it shifts when I change my view angle but the right side of the screen is still more washed out/brighter than the left side. Only visible in dark/black screens.

I'm starting to think maybe IPS/PLS isn't for me. Color and light uniformity are really important to me, followed by black levels. So maybe a VA panel? (but I definitely want a1440p screen, which I don't believe exist in VA panels?) Thoughts anyone?

I'm going to keep this Viewsonic for a couple of weeks to see how my opinion of it changes, but I'm open to suggestions.
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Turn down the brightness. If you keep the brightness maxed (default) on an IPS/PLS monitor you will always get the same results: light blacks and obvious glow.

The brightness will often even out when reduced to a normal level and bleed often disappears. There are no 1440p VA panels.
 
NCX said:
Turn down the brightness. If you keep the brightness maxed (default) on an IPS/PLS monitor you will always get the same results: light blacks and obvious glow.

The brightness will often even out when reduced to a normal level and bleed often disappears. There are no 1440p VA panels.
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I have my brightness on 26. In fact, I'm using the settings you posted on this thread and your ICC profile as well.

The panel I got before this had almost no light bleed but a few dead pixels, which is why I sent it back. Otherwise it would have been perfect.
 
Well, it's a mighty fine monitor but it does have some minor bleed bottom right :(

Not sure I can be bothered to send back any more monitors. Probably just going to keep this one.
 
Think I have the brightness on 30 currently. It was set to a retina searing 100 when I fired it up for the first time! No doubt it's a fantastic monitor, much better than the dell. Just a shame about the light bleed yet again :(
 
I just got this monitor on last thursday its really good. The color is perfect There's some sharpness issues, just reduce all sharpness to 0. I really recommend this monitor.
 
Oh it's a fantastic monitor without doubt. The colours are much more vibrant and lack the blue tint of the Dell I sent back. Love the design and build quality of it too. Just a shame about the damn light bleed in the bottom right corner :(
 
I got my screen yesterday but unfortunately it's in horrible shape and I'm waiting for response on replacement.

- The right side frame is bent and poking out a bit in the middle making the whole side look curved.
- If I look closely using an all white background I can see three faint rectangle shaped boxes, two on the left side and one on the right, which are brighter than the rest of the screen.
- There's a big space between the panel and the frame on the right side which results in two huge backlight bleeds at the top and bottom. Top one being white and bottom yellow:

(Pixels are from my camera, not the screen.)

No dead pixels though, hooray...

General observations:
- Lag can be seen and felt when "Response Time" isn't set to "Ultra Fast" (compared to my LG W2220P eIPS screens.)
- Coating is quite reflective, more so than on my old LP3065 iirc, definitely more than my W2220Ps.
- Colours are excellent, although I have no colorimeter, so subjective opinion.
- OSD has decent amount of options and the buttons are responsive.
- Good stand.

I really like this screen and I hope I can get a good replacement.
 
It's a great monitor, probably the best 1440p screen. Although like with all of them it seems, it's a lottery as to how much backlight bleeding you get :(
 
natch said:
I got my screen yesterday but unfortunately it's in horrible shape and I'm waiting for response on replacement.
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Was the box damaged or just the panel inside? Where did your order it from? I would demand a discount.

kabobi said:
BenQ BL2710PT
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This won't been any different than the IPS/PLS panels in terms of quality control and most BenQ panels suffer from obvious overshoot when the overdrive is turned on/up and have slower response times vs. competitors when turned down/off.
 
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Too bad Amazon UK don't sell this monitor - otherwise I'd jump on it for hassle free returns.
 
LC155 said:
Too bad Amazon UK don't sell this monitor - otherwise I'd jump on it for hassle free returns.
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Well the returns/exchanges are not quite hassle free after you've sent back a total of 10 monitors in the past month...but still better customer service than any other retailer.
 
I got fed up sending monitors back and just came to the conclusion there is no such thing as a defect free IPS panel. They all have some light bleed. Just keep one that only has it to a minimal degree. My current viewsonic only has one small patch along the bottom right and I can't be bothered to send it back now and chance getting one that is worse.
 
natch said:
I got my screen yesterday but unfortunately it's in horrible shape and I'm waiting for response on replacement.
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Update:

I received my replacement screen yesterday (2013-07-17) after waiting about four weeks due to shortage and stuff.
The new screen is awesome; I have no dead pixels, no backlight bleeding (at all, anywhere) and both sides of the screen are equally white.
To say that I'm happy might be a bit of an understatement because oh my Cthulhu I love this screen.

I shall now continue my happy dance and I wish you all the same great luck with your screens.
 
I just wanted to say...for the price you pay you should NEVER EVER put up with ANY black light bleed.
 
Hey Guys,

I need some help and advice in setting up my new VP2770. Any help or input would be greatly appreciated.

1. Is there a preferred hook-up method? I am using the DP cable. Is there a reason to use another connection method?

2. I have an i1Display Pro calibrator and I plan on calibrating the monitor. Which setting would be best to calibrate? Should I use the native, sRGB, or custom color setting as a starting point? I read the reviews and there seems to be very little difference between the settings.

I use the monitor for 50% office work, 30% Photoshop, and 20% gaming. Which setting would you suggest I use to calibrate the monitor? Would I best off using the "custom color" setting and manually changing the RGB settings based on the Display Pro readings?

3. What type of backlighting does this monitor use (i.e. CCFL, WLED, etc)? Display Pro gives me several options.

4. Is overdrive "advanced" the preferred setting?

Thanks in advance for your help!

-Brian
 
Received my screen today.
Overall fairly pleased, but have one dead pixel in the bottom right, just above the windows clock also slight back light bleed at the top right, applying pressure on the bezel reduces this (although it cant really be seen under normal usage)
Haven't decided if i should try swap it out yet incase i end up with something worse.....

Backlight bleed top right:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9I-kpM-UmmtTmpqTkw1c3hKTWc/edit?pli=1

Dead pixels:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9I-kpM-UmmtLUVEMk9SM0RkTDQ/edit?pli=1
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9I-kpM-UmmtcUxjaUpkU3UzSGs/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9I-kpM-UmmtSm5tYUtRWXZ2Yjg/edit?usp=sharing

Subjectivley colours seem fairly cool (as in temp)
 
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