Internal 4TB drive for $150

Seagate? It gonna be a long time before I use them again... but that is a [H]ot deal if you trust them.
 
Everyone bitches about Seagate, but I have never had issues with them.

I actually bought one of these drives recently and it's pretty nice so far. Already have a TB of it filled.
 
All the drives fail due to newegg's horrible packing. If you let a hard drive bounce around during shipping, it's a DOA or bound to fail drive.
 
I've had odd experiences with Seagate. At work we have several hundred PC's that have Seagate drives and in over 5 years only a few have died. Yet at home, when I do work on the side, almost every single failed drive I get is a Seagate. They are all consumer grade, workstation HDD's, so it's not like one is better than another.

With many things in technology, in regards to durability, I think it comes down to perception.
 
AFAIK, this is the only choice if you want a cheap 4TB drive.

Won't an initial scan sort out any potential issues?
 
I woke up this morning to a dead 1.5TB Seagate drive. My second 1.5TB to go bad in a month. They are all 3+ years old. Good thing these were all in a Drobo and the second failed drive had the decency to wait until I had replaced the first failed disk. I'm hesitant to go with Seagate again, but the price for the 4TB... it's so low! Well, I have to choose something, I only configured my Drobo to tolerate a single drive failure.
 
i've had a pretty experience with new seagate drives

although their refurb drives are just garbage :(
 
"I once had a Seagate, and let me tell you..."

God these types of comments are so useless
 
I am having a series of 1.5tb green WD drives die this year (3 now), manufacture date oct 2009. It might be time to give Seagate a second try since their last big fiasco four years ago.
 
All hdd manufacturers kind of suck now days. I have a hitachi 2tb failing on me right now (owned by wd now). samsung is out of the picture. WD is just as bad as seagate is. Basically now more than ever you need to back up your data.

I wish seagate was the like the seagate of 2005. I still have some 80gb and 250gb from that time that are running perfect and no problems.
 
munkle said:
I wish seagate was the like the seagate of 2005. I still have some 80gb and 250gb from that time that are running perfect and no problems.
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The "several hundred" I mentioned are all 80GB Seagates from 2005-2006 era. I've only had a couple fail of that bunch.
 
chrnochime said:
At least he's giving his share of experience, whereas you're providing nothing. ;)
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Occasionally helps to dispel the FUD associated with certain brands. I've had plenty of bad experiences with practically every HDD manufacturer there is and it doesn't stop me most of the time because I look at the larger numbers rather than my own incredibly small sample size.
 
guitarslingerchris said:
Occasionally helps to dispel the FUD associated with certain brands. I've had plenty of bad experiences with practically every HDD manufacturer there is and it doesn't stop me most of the time because I look at the larger numbers rather than my own incredibly small sample size.
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I am willing to bet you'd buy a GM...

My personal experience is 3 Seagate drives and 3 failures......

20 wd and NO failures...
 
Picked up two from the Newegg warehouse today along with a nice 4-bay enclosure. No problems so far.

I think the only brand that ever died on me was WD.
 
The only drive I had issue with is a samsung F3 that gives bad sector that refuses to clear (I'm reluctant to send it in under warranty because it hasn't totally died and that is the error it seems to show for the past year).
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The longest drive I used was a 4GB seagate and 1 GB conner (both scsi) - both lasted 14 years till i decon them with a hammer in 2008.
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My current longest running drive is a 320GB seagate (2 of them) that are 5 years old. I suppose I should expect them to fail soon (statistically) but neither are showing issues :(
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I want to pull the 2 1GB and 2 320GB drive and replace them with a pair of 2TB drives; but I'm worried the new drives will be less reliable given threads like this one :(
 
YeuEmMaiMai said:
I am willing to bet you'd buy a GM...

My personal experience is 3 Seagate drives and 3 failures......

20 wd and NO failures...
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But your little sample means nothing.

I've lost count of the WD failures I've had over the years, but it's in the ballpark of your Seagate numbers. Still, it is meaningless.
 
But your little sample means nothing.
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That is the problem. Unless you have a much larger sample (probably 10s of thousands of drives) your sample will most likely not be statistically significant (basically you can not describe the entire population of drives as faulty by looking at such a small sample of drives). How do you know that the 3 drives you purchased were not abused in shipping instead of a manufacturer defect?
 
my two cents: no manufacturer can keep everyone happy. perhaps your own experience does mean something... but it shouldn't carry over from year to year

each new drive/series released undergoes a redesigning process that may have been more/less successful than the previous, leading to more/less issues for the end-user. it's just that with some models, the goodness/badness is more pronounced and noticeable, whereas with others it is not
 
That's the biggest pia; and to make it worse is when they change a drive without changing the model #; so you have no clue what you are actually buying.

syncopied said:
my two cents: no manufacturer can keep everyone happy. perhaps your own experience does mean something... but it shouldn't carry over from year to year

each new drive/series released undergoes a redesigning process that may have been more/less successful than the previous, leading to more/less issues for the end-user. it's just that with some models, the goodness/badness is more pronounced and noticeable, whereas with others it is not
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my 3 TBS are chugging along. My seagate 1tb are working fine as well. The only drives I've ever had fail on my are an older maxtor and most recently two WD 2tb green drives.
 
brentsg said:
But your little sample means nothing.

I've lost count of the WD failures I've had over the years, but it's in the ballpark of your Seagate numbers. Still, it is meaningless.
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while it means nothing to you, it means to ME that the brand is unreliable and should not be trusted for data storage... mechanical hard drives have been around long enough that the basics of manufacturing should be solid and the assembly and testing parameters are sound...
 
I've had nothing but trouble with WD. Brand new and dead within a month. Seagates are just as bad. A 1.5Tb had a smart failure and a 2Tb clicking within the same week. All my data, *POOF* gone. The only drives I trust are Hitachi (Pre-WD). I just had my old 250Gb Hitachi, one of the first SATA hdd's on the market at the time, go out on me. It has got to be 7-8 years old now.
 
chrnochime said:
At least he's giving his share of experience, whereas you're providing nothing. ;)
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He was identifying fake internet science which has merit. When I was in high school, Statistics was a senior level class. People try to claim that their 2 hard drives is a representative sample of the hundreds of thousands of hard drives sold on a yearly basis. I think it's safe to assume that these people did not actually graduate high school because a Statistics class would teach you otherwise. High School drop out science should be identified as to not misinform other buyers.

TLDR; My Seagate hard drive became sentient and tried to assassinate me. Do not buy Seagate!
 
well other issues always include: did you buy the retail or OEM version of the drive, was the drive packaged/shipped correctly, etc... there are too many unknowns just to blame failure on mechanical design
 
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