TeeJayHoward
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Hyper-VWhat does Win8 do that nothing else does?
SMB multichannel/multipath/whatever-it's-called
Not useful for 90% of people. Blessing from heaven above for power users.
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Hyper-VWhat does Win8 do that nothing else does?
Oh, and support for ReFS.Hyper-V
SMB multichannel/multipath/whatever-it's-called
Not useful for 90% of people. Blessing from heaven above for power users.
...and .ISO mounting. Forgot about that nice little feature, too.Oh, and support for ReFS.
I want the choice back...from your comments I don't think you do. Is that so wrong to have choice? You can have both as we all know. Why must you or MS try to force us into change for what people believe is no benefit for desktop users and the new UI? Please tell me how much more efficient and productive the new UI will make our employees as our tests don't show any other than upgrade and training costs in its current state?
Hyper-V
SMB multichannel/multipath/whatever-it's-called
Not useful for 90% of people. Blessing from heaven above for power users.
What does Win8 do that nothing else does?
My starter for 10.
Well compared to Windows 7 it will load the AV first if you get infected and will clean off the virus at the next boot. Seen it happen to. Works a treat! Windows 7/Vista etc. all bend over and pull their pants down instead if they get infected.
What does Win8 do that nothing else does?
My starter for 10.
Well compared to Windows 7 it will load the AV first if you get infected and will clean off the virus at the next boot. Seen it happen to. Works a treat! Windows 7/Vista etc. all bend over and pull their pants down instead if they get infected.
Oh, and support for ReFS.
Actually, all the "pros" that I know are singing it's praises. Hell, multichannel SMB alone is worth the $20 upgrade price. The only folks I know of that don't like it are gamers who THINK they're "pro". You know the kind. Flat-bill, hellaflush, tap-out, CoD players. They love to hop on any bandwagon they can, and the Windows 8 hate is the current popular one.
Those are not Windows 8 Features but Server 2012 features.
Maybe the planet your living on.
All the people I work with who are admins hate Windows8.
ReFS might be coming to 8.1: http://www.winbeta.org/news/leaked-windows-blue-build-9369-hints-refs-client-support-windows-81.
Ahhh they guys who go "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
No one likes having to work for a living do they?
most of my co-workers say windows 8 is bad because they heard it was bad. i personally like windows 8. i feel it's snappier then windows 7. also use StartisBack on it since i don't like tiles interface.
Actually, Hyper-V and ReFS support are built into Windows 8, not just Server 2012. It's the first desktop OS that Microsoft has offered these features.Those are not Windows 8 Features but Server 2012 features.
What does that have to do with record profits?
I'm glad they are making money as I hope every company would but if you think Win 8 drove those record profits you are seriously wrong. Please wow me with the numbers to back it up as I've read the details.
This would be like claiming that because it's hard to find a girlfriend, millions of men became gay.
But seriously, I would use Windows 8 over Mac OS, for software compatibility alone.
It's really simple. Microsoft is making money hand over fist *despite* the Windows 8 failure. PC life running Microsoft OSes goes on, business as usual.
This headline is an Apple marketing effort that [H] has sadly given into. At the same time Microsoft is reporting record profits Apple shares are plummeting. That's reality. Millions becoming Apple users is merely unfounded spin.
Luckily the public filings tell the real story. Should be pretty easy to find an enormous increase in Apple sales since Win 8 has been released, alas that's simply not there, and Apple shares are diving.
Microsoft should make a dang tutorial video that is mandatory for most users to go over for the new Modern interface. it's actually not that bad for most common functions like MsOffice.
*scratches head*ok....so the best we've got at this point is that we should be running Win8 over anything else because it load AV before it loads any other software.
Does anyone have anything else?
Yep!I just don't get why all the complaints about things folks don't like about Windows 8 keep going on when they are easily changed in seconds.
Folks keep saying Metro Start Screen is unavoidable. No it isn't. Just install Classic Start and it boots straight to Desktop.
Set your default applications to the Desktop ones, takes about 45 seconds.
Pin the Control Panel to the Taskbar if you have to. Takes 10 seconds via Search (you do know how to use Search I take it?).
It's all easily configured.
And don't give me that bull about "You shouldn't have to configure Windows to work they way you want it!"
Like you are telling me you all use your Windows 7 installs "out of the box" with zero tweaking and configuration?
*scratches head*
You seem to have completely discounted the benefits I mentioned. Allow me to restate them:
1) You can mount a .ISO file natively now.
2) You can transfer files across the network at 400MB/s instead of 100MB/s thanks to SMB multi-whatever.
3) You can work with VMs natively now.
4) You can use drives or drive pools formatted with the new file system.
You can do all of these with Windows 8. You can not do any of these things in Windows 7. These are features that many power users will utilize every day. However, because they will not help grandma browse the web, folks seem to think that Windows 8 is worthless.
I don't understand it.
1) .ISO native mounting can be done in Linux
2) I see no reason why I can't do file transfers at higher speeds with a good network and a few tweeks (without Win8)
3) what is the advantage in native VM?
4) plenty of people used drives and drive pools with XP.....explain "new file system"
I agree completely. However, this site is about power users. We're supposed to be the [H]ardcore geeks. Instead, all this bandwagon hate has us looking like a bunch of whiners. 8 isn't as bad as most folks make it out to be, and that really bugs me. And don't even get me started on the anti-Apple sentiment. I just want a little more logic and a little less "Durr, it's awful because it's not what I use!"Great features just not for the general public.
Oh, and support for ReFS.
Hyper-V
SMB multichannel/multipath/whatever-it's-called
...and .ISO mounting. Forgot about that nice little feature, too.
As I've said before I'm not against choice but this is a 20 year old UI and while it still has its uses the desktop market is mature and in a serious sales decline and if there's not some kind of movement to make the PC align more with how increasing numbers of people interact with computing devices then I fear that the PC will simply become less and less relevant to average people.
I think that it is important for people that want this kind of switch to at least understand the nature of the market and that they want Microsoft to continue support something that 20 years old and in decline. Microsoft didn't do this for the hell of it, for some reason a lot of people think that's the case.
I'm not saying that Win8 is better than *NIX. I'm saying that it's the best version of Windows to date. ReFS is not ZFS, but it's a hell of a lot better than FAT32. Once they fix a couple of things, it'll probably end up better than NTFS, too. I no longer have to hunt down and install third party software to do a ton of things. I don't have to try and keep all that up to date, either. For most folks, there's no reason to "upgrade" to Windows 8. I get that. But these folks need to realize that for some, there is a reason. Their way is not the only way, nor is it even the "best" way. Use cases vary, and the overwhelming attitude of "Windows 8 sucks" is annoying.How is this an improvement? ReFS removed tons of useful features (like encryption and transaction NTFS). And it is still no where near as versatile or robust as ZFS.
It is useful but nothing you can't get with Xen.
Good. They've finally caught up with NFS.
This doesn't really impress me because GNU/Linux and other *nixes have had this ability since their inception. In fact, I can not only mount ISOs but I can mount other file systems stored as files as well because *nix treats everything as a file and does not distinguish between a file stored on a hard drive and a file that points to a physical storage device.
I agree completely. However, this site is about power users. We're supposed to be the [H]ardcore geeks. Instead, all this bandwagon hate has us looking like a bunch of whiners. 8 isn't as bad as most folks make it out to be, and that really bugs me. And don't even get me started on the anti-Apple sentiment. I just want a little more logic and a little less "Durr, it's awful because it's not what I use!"
True enough. I'll admit, I am an IT admin, and my view of the OS is biased as a result.I'll go with these answers but this is something that would mainly apply to network/IT admins. Win8 is not exclusively sold as such.
What's the point of a desktop or taskbar if you don't want anything to be on it? It might be great to constantly see your background picture, but that is only good when you are not working in anything. Otherwise, it is being covered by your apps windows.lol cohesive, yes... efficient? hell no. Unfortunately I'm forced to use it at work, but at home I have all that crap removed.
Its a mess. I like a very clean and organized workspace. I don't like that the ribbon gives you icons of all different shapes and layouts (some vertical, some horizontal) plastered all over the bar. I prefer a simple text based list personally for finding seldom used functions, while having a minimal toolbar for commonly used functions.
It's the same reason I liked the organization of the start menu over the cluttered mess that is the start screen. It's either that, or you're pinning all your applications to the taskbar or desktop. No thanks.
...and .ISO mounting. Forgot about that nice little feature, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-V
Not sure this qualifies since it appearantly goes back to Server 2008
Not useful for 90% of people....I think this is noteworthy