Asus VG248QE 144hz 3D Vision 2: The Official Thread

Are you using LightBoost?
The colors are MUCH worse with LightBoost on.
I was able to get 80% of the color quality back with LightBoost. Google "LightBoost calibration". It helps if you have a Spyder4 or an i1 Pro. No longer washed out anymore, no bleached gamma anymore, just plain dim -- as LightBoost won't throw any more photons to your eyes per second.

So, I've had my VG248QE for about a week now. I came from the VG236H and prior to that I was on the FW900. When my FW900 died, I cried. I replaced it with the VG236H and thought I was doing ok. I enjoyed it for about nine months until I started reading up on lightboost. I can safely say, that in the past week, I've enjoyed gaming so much more and I feel like I'm back on my FW900 with the VG248QE. It seriously is as close to CRT as you can get.
Love it. LOVE IT.
Thanks for the great reference!
 
How is the Overlord Tempest for gaming?
Depends on the type of gaming.
It's totally stunning and amazing for things like Simcity and Civilization.
But I wouldn't play competitive FPS with it.

Even the best overclocked IPS LCD (Catleap 2B, Overlord X270OC) have 7 times more motion blur than LightBoost LCD's. That means, in situations where you get a 7 millimeter IPS motion blur trail, you only get 1 millimeter with LightBoost for the exact same speed motion (in terms of same screen width travel speed for the same screen surface area) Finally, there's 12 times less motion blur with LightBoost (10% setting) than 60 Hz LCDs, so in situations where you got 12 millimeters of motion blur trail, you get only 1 millimeter with LightBoost for the same speed motion. This is often below human perceptible levels (zero motion blur)

This assumes exact fps=Hz motion (the most perfect possible motion), ala PixPerAn motion test.
I'm also excluding the LightBoost faint sharp double-image crosstalk effect (more common on 2ms 27" LCD's than with 1ms 24" LCD's).
 
Depends on the type of gaming.
It's totally stunning and amazing for things like Simcity and Civilization.
But I wouldn't play competitive FPS with it.

Even the best overclocked IPS LCD (Catleap 2B, Overlord X270OC) have 7 times more motion blur than LightBoost LCD's. That means, in situations where you get a 7 millimeter IPS motion blur trail, you only get 1 millimeter with LightBoost for the exact same speed motion (in terms of same screen width travel speed for the same screen surface area) Finally, there's 12 times less motion blur with LightBoost (10% setting) than 60 Hz LCDs, so in situations where you got 12 millimeters of motion blur trail, you get only 1 millimeter with LightBoost for the same speed motion. This is often below human perceptible levels (zero motion blur)

This assumes exact fps=Hz motion (the most perfect possible motion), ala PixPerAn motion test.
I'm also excluding the LightBoost faint sharp double-image crosstalk effect (more common on 2ms 27" LCD's than with 1ms 24" LCD's).


Thank you for the information.
 
For people who have bought this, have there been any bright / dark pixels?
Just weighing this one up against the XL2411T. On one hand I have to wait for the BenQ to be released, but on the other the BenQ has a much better pixel warranty and after the XL2720T I would like to have a good pixel warranty.

Thanks.
 
ive just had 1 benq. but for 5 years. I think its 1 dead pixel by now (that i havent seen in a year or so) and really no problems. pretty pretty good.
 
My problem is I can only spend $600 once..lol

So what light boost monitor do I get?

I want an 27 inch but can get a 24 inch if I need too.
 
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How is the Overlord Tempest for gaming?


what mark said. very precisely, as usual.

also, see this post by vega comparing the vg248qe and the 130 hz catleap, which have the same panels as my xl2411t and overlord.

basically, the IPS is clearly superior for everything except shooters. unfortunately, i play shooters almost exclusively ;)

my overlord can run at 120 hz, however, i said before that regular 120 hz are still relatively blurry, giving me a sort of movement sickness, although far less than 60 hz.

lightboost has eliminated this completely, as far as i'm concerned. i'm really happy about this, because getting dizzy after a while ruined the fun in gaming for me. it's indeed clear as motion on a CRT, as has been said. no "flowing" wall textures during a fast turn.

the benq also makes dark corners much better visible, at the expense of deep blacks of course.

this is the benq's downside: colors are outright bad out of the box and don't come anywhere near the image quality of the overlord despite all tweaking. it has a strong black crush and generally makes a mess out of all those shades of browns and greens. it's a monitor for playing competitively, not marveling at the map's beauty.

the CRT-like clarity is also severely hampered by the matte film, imo. the samsung and the overlord are both glossy, matte screens look dusty in comparison. i hope glossy 1 ms lightboost monitors will come out. better control your lighting than have manufacturers ruin the image with anti-glare.

there's also the question of frame rate. ideally, you want to maintain stable 120 fps, which is far harder at 1440p than at 1080p.

meanwhile i also like the overlord for its graphics quality so i'll keep it - for whatever i'll do besides shooting someone.
 
what mark said. very precisely, as usual.

also, see this post by vega comparing the vg248qe and the 130 hz catleap, which have the same panels as my xl2411t and overlord.

basically, the IPS is clearly superior for everything except shooters. unfortunately, i play shooters almost exclusively ;)

my overlord can run at 120 hz, however, i said before that regular 120 hz are still relatively blurry, giving me a sort of movement sickness, although far less than 60 hz.

lightboost has eliminated this completely, as far as i'm concerned. i'm really happy about this, because getting dizzy after a while ruined the fun in gaming for me. it's indeed clear as motion on a CRT, as has been said. no "flowing" wall textures during a fast turn.

the benq also makes dark corners much better visible, at the expense of deep blacks of course.

this is the benq's downside: colors are outright bad out of the box and don't come anywhere near the image quality of the overlord despite all tweaking. it has a strong black crush and generally makes a mess out of all those shades of browns and greens. it's a monitor for playing competitively, not marveling at the map's beauty.

the CRT-like clarity is also severely hampered by the matte film, imo. the samsung and the overlord are both glossy, matte screens look dusty in comparison. i hope glossy 1 ms lightboost monitors will come out. better control your lighting than have manufacturers ruin the image with anti-glare.

there's also the question of frame rate. ideally, you want to maintain stable 120 fps, which is far harder at 1440p than at 1080p.

meanwhile i also like the overlord for its graphics quality so i'll keep it - for whatever i'll do besides shooting someone.

Thank you for the information. It was very good.:D

I would like to get a 27 inch gaming but I like pretty colors (on women as the next guy). I do have an Acer and Samsung in 23s...they do pretty well in colors---going to SLI my GTX 670s also.

So just haven't decided what to get --Asus or Benq ---24 or 27......ah the troubles of life.
 
Vega, looking at your comparison post between the Catleap and the Asus, what was the end difference with your film removed?

Was the difference still incredibly noticeable or was the trade off worth it?
 
that "flowing wall textures" is a fair test but it happens to the entire viewport.. all the beautiful texture detail in outdoor scenic scenes / terrain blurs out, and all of its bump mapping depth and other shaders .. also happens to architectures, creatures, etc. I "freelook" all the time, independently of my movement vectors. It has always been a major annoyance with lcd tech.

A tn in lightboost mode isn't going to look anything like still camera shots of a ips. As far as being worth it, I believe Vega (among others) has said he will never play on a blur lcd again if I'm not misquoting him.

Personally, I keep a 2560x ips next to my gaming monitor. The tradeoffs have always been too great for me to keep only one monitor, so I keep one for all things desktop and one for gaming.
 
Since upgrading to a 3x Portrait VG248QE Lightboost setup, I cannot go back to a 120 Hz 1440 IPS. I have perfect motion clarity AND high resolution. Unbeatable. Yes, there are bezels. But the pro's far outweigh the cons IMO. Removing the matte film made the screens clearer and more vibrant to boot.
 
Still waiting for Amazon to ship the ASUS VG248QE I ordered on February 15. This is beyond ridiculous. If I had the money I'd order from Newegg and cancel, but I paid in mostly Amazon giftcards. I don't know whether to be pissed off at Amazon or Asus.

It seems like Asus is continually supplying Newegg with ASUS VG248QE's, but isn't sending Amazon any. Did Amazon do something to piss Asus off?

I've called Amazon asking why other websites are getting shipments while Amazon isn't, but they can't tell me anything. They upgraded me to 1day shipping and gave me a $10 sympathy gift card, but their systems don't even have an ETA at this point.

Meanwhile, I've almost beat Max Payne 3 and Borderlands 2 on my crappy 60hz monitor.
 
Still waiting for Amazon to ship the ASUS VG248QE I ordered on February 15. This is beyond ridiculous. If I had the money I'd order from Newegg and cancel, but I paid in mostly Amazon giftcards. I don't know whether to be pissed off at Amazon or Asus.

It seems like Asus is continually supplying Newegg with ASUS VG248QE's, but isn't sending Amazon any. Did Amazon do something to piss Asus off?

I've called Amazon asking why other websites are getting shipments while Amazon isn't, but they can't tell me anything. They upgraded me to 1day shipping and gave me a $10 sympathy gift card, but their systems don't even have an ETA at this point.

Meanwhile, I've almost beat Max Payne 3 and Borderlands 2 on my crappy 60hz monitor.

That is seriously crazy. i would get that order cancelled asap. That is way to long to wait for an order and for someone to tell you there is nothing they can do is not acceptable. I ordered 3 on newegg and had them within 3 days of my order. This should be there executive customer service for really escalating your issue. (Amazon.com customer service issue, and you feel regular customer service isn’t cutting it, you can reach their executive customer service team by email, at [email protected]). I found that by google so not 100% sure if that is correct but worth a shot.
 
I'm having a hard time choosing between the ASUS VG248QE and the BenQ XL2411T.

Reviews say the VG248QE has better colors normally but the XL2411T's colors look better with Light Boost.

The main concern I have is that I'll be mainly using the monitor for PC gaming with light boost, I'll also be using the monitor for console gaming and have heard certain ASUS monitors have had input lag running on 60hz like the VG278HE.

The ASUS will be cheaper seeing I won't have to import it but I'm willing to spend extra for the XL2411T if it slightly outshines where I need it to.
 
I'm having a hard time choosing between the ASUS VG248QE and the BenQ XL2411T.

You should check when the XL2411T gets released where you're from. I know in Australia it comes out next month so it's not that long a wait.

Also, given that these monitors are so similar, it might be worth comparing the warranties too. That might make your choice a little easier. I much prefer the BenQ warranty, but that warranty may not apply if you import from overseas instead of buying locally.
 
That is seriously crazy. i would get that order cancelled asap. That is way to long to wait for an order and for someone to tell you there is nothing they can do is not acceptable. I ordered 3 on newegg and had them within 3 days of my order. This should be there executive customer service for really escalating your issue. (Amazon.com customer service issue, and you feel regular customer service isn’t cutting it, you can reach their executive customer service team by email, at [email protected]). I found that by google so not 100% sure if that is correct but worth a shot.
Multiple suppliers sell the ASUS VG248QE on Amazon. (Amazon does not directly sell the VG248QE). You can see it by the tagline "Ships from and sold by The Nerds." or "Ships from and sold by ACME Exploding Monitors Inc." You must have hit a supplier that's not willing to honour a loss-leader order. Try cancelling and re-ordering on Amazon through a different supplier. Most people have gotten their monitors from Amazon very quickly.
 
Anyone else notice a pinkish color shift? A white screen will have a pinkish hue that increases in intensity from bottom to top, similar to gamma shift. My other ASUS TN doesn't have this discoloration. It was visible with and without Lightboost enabled and with every color profile I tried.
 
Still waiting for Amazon to ship the ASUS VG248QE I ordered on February 15. This is beyond ridiculous. If I had the money I'd order from Newegg and cancel, but I paid in mostly Amazon giftcards. I don't know whether to be pissed off at Amazon or Asus.

It seems like Asus is continually supplying Newegg with ASUS VG248QE's, but isn't sending Amazon any. Did Amazon do something to piss Asus off?

I've called Amazon asking why other websites are getting shipments while Amazon isn't, but they can't tell me anything. They upgraded me to 1day shipping and gave me a $10 sympathy gift card, but their systems don't even have an ETA at this point.

Meanwhile, I've almost beat Max Payne 3 and Borderlands 2 on my crappy 60hz monitor.

Like someone above said, I'd cancel the order. I waited for Amazon to resupply so I could use Prime, but after a week of waiting I went ahead and bought it from Newegg. Egg Saver shipping was free and only took 3 days to get to me from NJ.

I'm using the monitor now in 144hz mode. Without these LB tweaks enabled it still has less blur than my Samsung 950D. Excited to enable LB, though I'm not sure my 670FTW is up to the task.
 
Hi all,

New to the forum, Really Interested In this and the BenQ. Can anyone advise me on which to buy?
I am coming from 22" samsung which only now I have read has very bad input lag "226cw" so getting one of these new monitors should be a massive step up.

I have around €400 to spend on a new monitor, would IPS be better?

Thanks
 
Ordered an open-box VG248QE for $230 w/ 2 day Shoprunner this morning, I've had pretty good luck ordering open-box items from NewEgg in the past....fingers crossed
 
That is seriously crazy. i would get that order cancelled asap. That is way to long to wait for an order and for someone to tell you there is nothing they can do is not acceptable. I ordered 3 on newegg and had them within 3 days of my order. This should be there executive customer service for really escalating your issue. (Amazon.com customer service issue, and you feel regular customer service isn’t cutting it, you can reach their executive customer service team by email, at [email protected]). I found that by google so not 100% sure if that is correct but worth a shot.

Thanks for info.

Multiple suppliers sell the ASUS VG248QE on Amazon. (Amazon does not directly sell the VG248QE). You can see it by the tagline "Ships from and sold by The Nerds." or "Ships from and sold by ACME Exploding Monitors Inc." You must have hit a supplier that's not willing to honour a loss-leader order. Try cancelling and re-ordering on Amazon through a different supplier. Most people have gotten their monitors from Amazon very quickly.

My order is directly through Amazon. I ordered it for $265 'shipped and sold by Amazon.com'. The day after I ordered it they stopped selling it directly, but never told me they wouldn't be getting it back in stock again :\

Like someone above said, I'd cancel the order. I waited for Amazon to resupply so I could use Prime, but after a week of waiting I went ahead and bought it from Newegg. Egg Saver shipping was free and only took 3 days to get to me from NJ.

I'm using the monitor now in 144hz mode. Without these LB tweaks enabled it still has less blur than my Samsung 950D. Excited to enable LB, though I'm not sure my 670FTW is up to the task.

It just came back in stock at BH yesterday, so I'll wait a couple more days and see if they sent Amazon a shipment too, otherwise I guess I'll cancel...
 
Does anyone know how to get the RGB gains and offsets in the service menu to actually do anything?
 
I'm using the monitor now in 144hz mode. Without these LB tweaks enabled it still has less blur than my Samsung 950D. Excited to enable LB, though I'm not sure my 670FTW is up to the task.
The 670 has more than plenty of power to do perfect 120fps in many older Source Engine games at maximum detail and even AA enabled (e.g. Team Fortress 2). It may be older games that only truly benefit from LightBoost on less than a Titan.

You can also run LightBoost enabled at 100 Hz, which will have slightly more input lag, but will allow noticeable LightBoost motion fluidity improvements in some newer games.
 
Does it matter for lightboost if you use DP or DVI-D on this screen? Can you even mix and match between screens without any lag differences (e.g. if you used one titan to drive all 3?
 
Did you do any 3d gaming with this display? If so how did it perform with crosstalk?

Read these

VG278H
http://3dvision-blog.com/6335-review-of-the-27-inch-asus-vg278h-3d-vision-ready-lcd-monitor/

SA2311W
http://3dvision-blog.com/4244-review-of-the-23-planar-sa2311w-3d-vision-ready-lcd-monitor/

The 1ms models are supposed to have less cross-talk vs. the 27" Asus but the Planar already seems very good vs. the VG278H going by 3D Visions cross-talk pictures and I'd bet the Planar has way better 3D colours vs. the VG248QE. 3D Vision 2 displays look less murky in 3D though.

In my 3D movie tests (Tron, Tintin, Thor, Fright Night and Priest) VG248QE was cross-talk free in 9/10 scenes I test, but so was the XL2420T. In the one Tron scene in which both the XL2420T and VG248QE showed cross-talk, the VG248QE had less, but the cross-talk amount was still extremely minimal on both. I actually have a pic of the Asus taken through the glasses somewhere. In BF3 there was slightly less cross-talk on the VG248QE but the amount is so small I don't think it is worth while dealing with the VG248QE's poor 3D/LB colours.
 
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Thanks for the info. I was also wondering about the XL2420T since after glasses the Asus costs about the same. With the glasses on do you feel that the VG248QE's colors are that bad?

I read that 3d vision blog review. The thing that makes me wonder is that I know a guy on another forum who uses a VG278H and is very sensitive to crosstalk. He helped me out quite a bit when I first started using 3d vision. Now he plays games on the VG278H at settings that I know would have bugged me on the Planar. So, IDK. Lightboost also seems like a big plus as well.
 
Did you do any 3d gaming with this display? If so how did it perform with crosstalk?
I'm thinking of giving 3d vision another go if I can pick up a display significantly better than my old Planar SA2311w as far as crosstalk goes.
Ohhhhh, night and day.

There seems to be roughly about 10 to 100 times less stereoscopic crosstalk with a well-tweaked LightBoost monitor (BENQ XL2411T, Contrast=65, LightBoost=50%) than on any first-generation 3D Vision 1 monitor such as the 2233rz.

LightBoost was invented for 3D to nearly completely eliminate crosstalk. It also happens to also eliminate motion blur (as a secondary effect, which nVidia was also already aware of, but chose to bundle that benefit with 3D Vision and market the 3D part more aggressively) It was only recently that the Internet (December 2012) that came up with a way to enable LightBoost without needing to buy the 3D emitter, and the LightBoost hype started taking off in 2013, since there is demand for motion blur elimination from many people not interested in 3D glasses.

But all LightBoost monitors (and stroboscopic backlights like Samsung's) have much, much, much better 3D stereoscopic displays than yesterday's 3D monitors (dark, bad crosstalk).
Even better, in fact, on the newer 1ms 24" panels, which have even less crosstalk, especially if you don't raise Contrast above around 65.

The bad thing is that 3D Vision isn't very good in many games. Does not work well at all with Bioshock Infinite, for example. It works impressively in some games though, such as Portal 2 and the new Tomb Raider. I only use my 3D glasses occasionally, though.
 
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60hz Settings:

Brightness: 25
Contrast: 60
Red: 100
Green: 96
Blue: 88
Trace Free: 80 or 40 if you don't want to see overshoot and see streaking

ICC Profile:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1504112160/VG248QE60hzFinal.icm


144hz Settings:
Brightness: 24
Contrast: 60
Red: 100
Green: 95
Blue: 84
Trace Free: 40

ICC Profile:
http://rapidshare.com/files/177881568/VG248QE144hzFinal.icm


2D Gaming 6500k Lightboost ICC Profile and Settings:

Contrast 65
Lightboost 10% or first click

http://rapidshare.com/files/3265751339/3D6500kLB1Contrast65.icm

3D Gaming 7500K ICC Profile:

Contrast 65
Lightboost: Max

http://rapidshare.com/files/1236345226/3D7500kLBMAXContrast65.icm

For ICC profile instructions refer to my Video Review or scroll down on this page:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles.htm
 
In my 3D movie tests (Tron, Tintin, Thor, Fright Night and Priest) VG248QE was cross-talk free in 9/10 scenes I test, but so was the XL2420T. In the one Tron scene in which both the XL2420T and VG248QE showed cross-talk, the VG248QE had less, but the cross-talk amount was still extremely minimal on both. I actually have a pic of the Asus taken through the glasses somewhere. In BF3 there was slightly less cross-talk on the VG248QE but the amount is so small I don't think it is worth while dealing with the VG248QE's poor 3D/LB colours.

How would you compare the colors in 3d between the two? Is it really that bad n the VG248QE? Does the image look washed out?


Ohhhhh, night and day.

Thats not what bloody from 3d vision blog had to say.

There seems to be roughly about 10 to 100 times less stereoscopic crosstalk with a well-tweaked LightBoost monitor (BENQ XL2411T, Contrast=65, LightBoost=50%) than on any first-generation 3D Vision 1 monitor such as the 2233rz.

Not all "first gen" (pre-lightboost) 3d vision displays perform the same with crosstalk. My planar SA2311 was miles ahead of the Acer GD235hz that I had before hand. The two weren't even in the same league.

LightBoost was invented for 3D to nearly completely eliminate crosstalk.

No, lightboost was bought about to eliminate the dark 3d images in previous displays. Again some were better than others in that aspect too.

But all LightBoost monitors (and stroboscopic backlights like Samsung's) have much, much, much better 3D stereoscopic displays than yesterday's 3D monitors (dark, bad crosstalk).

The SA2311w uses a samsung panel btw.

The bad thing is that 3D Vision isn't very good in many games.

With helix mod there are quite a few games which work well in 3d vision. I wouldn't replace my 120hz catleap with one of these but I would like to be able to use 3d vision every once in a while.

It also happens to also eliminate motion blur (as a secondary effect, which nVidia was also already aware of, but chose to bundle that benefit with 3D Vision and market the 3D part more aggressively) It was only recently that the Internet (December 2012) that came up with a way to enable LightBoost without needing to buy the 3D emitter, and the LightBoost hype started taking off in 2013, since there is demand for motion blur elimination from many people not interested in 3D glasses.

I don't care about that. I wouldn't even consider replacing my 120hz catleap with one of those for 2D gaming. If those images that NCX took look of 2d lightboost look half as bad in person then that is the hell of a compromise in image quality.
 
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Thats not what bloody from 3d vision blog had to say.
Bloody is correct when comparing the best 3D Vision 1 display. But there's some additional information that neither Bloody nor I knew in Year 2012. I was comparing examples of an early 3D Vision 1 panel, with a 3D Vision 2 panel. On average, 3D Vision 2 panels *do* have much less crosstalk, if you test all 3D Vision 1 displays versus all 3D Vision 2 displays.

Perhaps your model was better-than-average, or it has a non-LightBoost stroboscopic backlight (e.g. During 2013, we've widely discovered that Samsung have an undocumented strobe backlight mode used for 3D). It is possible that your display utilizes a pre-LightBoost stroboscopic backlight too (tests are needed to determine if this is the case). It was only discovered in the last few months that Samsungs utilize a stroboscopic backlight (non-LightBoost-branded) that nobody knew about, that the Samsungs actually already utilized. Samsungs were known to less 3D crosstalk than previous 3D monitors, and it is also caused by its LightBoost style stroboscopic backlight.

The contrasts go down if you choose the best 3D Vision 1 display (which you may have), and compare to one of the less-good 3D Vision 2 displays. This may very well be the case here.

No, lightboost was bought about to eliminate the dark 3d images in previous displays. Again some were better than others in that aspect too.
Actually, we are both correct. That too. nVidia did say from time to time, that LightBoost also greatly reduce or eliminate crosstalk. Also, see high speed video which also helps explain illustrate the other effects of LightBoost.

Stroboscopic backlights (LB and non-LB) provide all the following simultaneously:
  1. Make 3D Vision brighter
    How this is done: Allow 3D glasses shutter to be opened longer. This is made possible by keeping the monitor in darkness, while the persistence of the LCD shutter glasses take time to transition from dark to clear / clear to dark.
  2. In general, less crosstalk
    How this is done: Keep the backlight turned off while the LCD pixels transitions and shutter glasses transition. Strobe only when the transitions are as complete as possible.
  3. Reduce motion blur
    How this is done: Turns a sample-and-hold display into a flicker display, like a CRT. The backlight strobing, normally used for the above advantages of 3D vision, happens to have the side effect of eliminating motion blur. An explanation of the stroboscopic effect in display motion blur reduction, is explained at TFTCentral: Motion Blur Reduction Backlights, BlurBusters: Scanning Backlight FAQ, and BlurBusters: Motion Blur On Certain OLED's. TFT Central found that LightBoost massively outperformed all past scanning backlights they have ever tested.

nVidia never fully marketed all three bullets aggressively, but all three bullets are true.
Further proof:

I don't care about that. I wouldn't even consider replacing my 120hz catleap with one of those for 2D gaming. If those images that NCX took look of 2d lightboost look half as bad in person then that is the hell of a compromise in image quality.
That's okay. Catleaps are excellent displays. They are amazing for many things; and not everyone is sensitive to motion blur. Some people love LightBoost because there is 7 to 12 times less motion blur on those displays for hard-core FPS games (than a regular 60 Hz LCD). That means in situations of ultra-fast motion, where you have 12 pixels of motion blur during fast motion, there is only 1 pixel of motion blur on LightBoost displays -- (fast pans moving at nearly a full screen widths per second, like fast strafes, fast turns, fast flyby / zoombys). As a result, it becomes much easier to track eyes on fast-moving objects on the screen. It's like keeping the full high-definition during fast motion (fast panning images as perfectly sharp as static images).

Every display have their pros and cons. The dramatic improvement in motion blur is quite apparent to some people, to the point where it outweighs the disadvantages. It depends on what your eyes are sensitive to -- color? motion blur? etc. And usage -- Visual Studio programming? Photoshop? Civilization? Or fast-action FPS type games? etc. Catleap's are better displays than LightBoost for many uses, while LightBoost are better displays for other purposes.
 
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You're probably right.

There is a guy on Rage3d who really helped me out when I first started using 3d vision. The guy is very sensitive to crosstalk and I respect his opinions. He is now using a VG278H. I've seen him on the fourms mentioning using settings in game that would have produced more crosstalk than I would be comfortable with on the Planar.
 
There is a guy on Rage3d who really helped me out when I first started using 3d vision. The guy is very sensitive to crosstalk and I respect his opinions. He is now using a VG278H.
I am mighty curious if your Planar have an undocumented stroboscopic backlight mode to help improve its 3D quality, much like Samsungs do (SA700D, SA750D, SA950D).
If you don't mind doing a few quick tests (don't use your 3D glasses for these tests)

Strobe Test Method #1
1. Force your Planar into 3D mode at Windows desktop
2. Set your brightness to 100% (unless you're prevented to do so). This largely prevents PWM-dimming-related strobing.
3. Turn off your room's lights, close doors (dark room is much easier to see strobing in)
4. Display a bright white window
5. Wave/shake your finger really fast back-and-forth on your monitor across the bright window, while you stare at the center of the bright window.
6. Stroboscopic backlight displays will show a strobing effect in your moving finger (gaps in the motion of your finger, a stroboscopic effect that looks as if you were staring through a spinning fan)

Strobe Test Method #2
1. Download and install PixPerAn from prad.de
2. Disable 3D stereoscopic mode.
3. Run PixPerAn.
4. Confirm monitor OSD says you're not in 3D mode.
5. Observe the motion blur of the PixPerAn car at Tempo 8 at 120Hz. You won't be able to read the "I NEED MORE SOCKS" text.
6. Exit PixPerAn.
7. Enable 3D stereoscopic mode for all applications.
8. Run PixPerAn again.
9. Confirm monitor OSD says you're still in 3D mode (even when PixPerAn is running), even though PixPerAn will still look 'flat' (2D)
10. Observe the motion blur of the PixPerAn car (Tempo 8, 120Hz). If you can now clearly read the "I NEED MORE SOCKS" text, then you do have a strobe backlight.

...would have produced more crosstalk than I would be comfortable with on the Planar.
I find if I keep my VG278H contrast down to 65, the crosstalk goes down a lot. Does the guy on Rage3D adjust contrast to balance out crosstalk?

That said, I do notice my BENQ XL2411T has even less crosstalk. As a general rule of thumb, the new "1ms" panels have, on average, less crosstalk than the 2ms panels, since the pixels can be more completely transitioned on time for shutter glasses -- this is a rare case where a single millisecond seems to be making a difference (3D Vision crosstalk, and/or LightBoost trailing faint-sharp-ghost artifact, etc.)

I own both a BENQ XL2411T and an ASUS VG278H.
 
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I got rid of the planar quite a while ago. I would have been interested to see if it does strobe. It would explain a lot since it wasn't anywhere near as dark in 3d as my Acer GD235hz.

I ended up picking up the Asus VG248QE so I guess that I'll find out just how much of a difference that there is later. I ended up finding a good deal on some 3d vision glasses so I was able to get this for much less than a Benq2420.

The dude on rage is pretty knowledgeable, yes he has tweaked a few settings. Contrast is one of them.
 
Is low contrast recommended for the QE as well or other than blending colours it doesn't have much diff?
 
Is low contrast recommended for the QE as well or other than blending colours it doesn't have much diff?
It improves crosstalk on all LightBoost displays, to keep the contrast at around 65-ish. It also prevents the gamma bleaching effect, and colors look much better, especially when calibrated. However, it might make the picture too dim for some people.
 
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