NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

crABtoad said:
Could be a fault in the power supply itself because I doubt having an extra HDD connected would be enough to thermal trip the computer... HDDs and SSDs really only use a couple watts/amps though.
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It really could be. But then again, NVidia recommends a minimum system requirement of 500W. So Silverstone probably won't help me in any way. I'll gladly have you experts look at my system if you are in my neighborhood.

Currently I basically "hot-swap" by unplugging one and plugging in the other. I just cannot go with three drives without a lot of crashing.

And yes, I know my PSU is not the 80+ Gold one, but rather the Silver one.
 
I showed up here because I did a lot of research on the available ITX cases and nothing can compare with this one :) (cubitek minicube is pretty cool though).Theres a difference between making harmless inquiries and disparaging the product / asking for it to change. On another note this case is gonna cost 300+ dollars for people overseas and it wouldn't make much sense for them to buy a GPU thats worth the same amount as the case :p. I think thats the reason why so many people on this thread are talking about placing very expensive hardware in their M1.
 
Personally I am going put as high end stuff as I can afford because this is likely my last build unless things change drastically, namely the the place Intel and others plan to take the desktop hardware market.
 
cookiePlant said:
There are many legitimate reasons why one would want to pack the most performance in the smallest possible enclosure. I think some of the people who seek the most performance in an ITX case, would get a high end ATX system instead if practicality would allow it. For people like me, who need to travel on a somewhat regular basis, its not practical to have huge cases. Others might not have the space to accomodate such a build. As with many other areas of life people do excessive and pointless things for fun. For some its cars, for us its computers. For me its a fun pastime to ponder how much performance I can pack in the smallest possible enclosure.
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Why not get a workstation laptop ? Those are actually meant to be lugged around and can fit in your backpack or overhead compartment.
 
M4rk said:
That's fine as long as you don't go complaining/disparaging a product because it fails to meet your expanded needs. The NCASE M1 was designed to match a specific set of requirements. Now that it's become more well-known, folks are showing up and asking for the case to be something it can't be, or wasn't designed to be. ;)
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I think Jeff Atwood is really on-point when it comes to specific-purpose design... while his blog is about software in particular I think it applies as easily here as it did to the Pontiac Aztec

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/20...ty-but-dont-let-them-tell-you-what-to-do.html

Jeff Atwood said:
You should immediately triage the feedback and feature requests you get into two broad buckets:

We need power windows in this car!

or

We need a truck bed in this car!

The former is, of course, a reasonable thing to request adding to a car, while the latter is a request to change the fundamental nature of the vehicle. The malleable form of software makes it all too tempting to bolt that truck bed on to our car. Why not? Users keep asking for it, and trucks sure are convenient, right?

Don't fall into this trap. Stay on mission. That car-truck hybrid is awfully tempting to a lot of folks, but then you end up with a Subaru Brat. Unless you really want to build a truck after all, the users asking for truck features need to be gently directed to their nearest truck dealership, because they're in the wrong place.
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CHANG3D said:
It really could be. But then again, NVidia recommends a minimum system requirement of 500W. So Silverstone probably won't help me in any way. I'll gladly have you experts look at my system if you are in my neighborhood.

Currently I basically "hot-swap" by unplugging one and plugging in the other. I just cannot go with three drives without a lot of crashing.

And yes, I know my PSU is not the 80+ Gold one, but rather the Silver one.
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Mechanical hard drives use a decent amount of power (in comparison to their idle and usage power) to spool up during boots. Some bioses have options to stagger the drives so they spool up in series rather than parallel.
 
Fortunately GPUs tend not to be running at max capacity during boot-up sequences.

EDIT: Damn, beaten to the snark.
 
Zangmonkey said:
I think Jeff Atwood is really on-point when it comes to specific-purpose design... while his blog is about software in particular I think it applies as easily here as it did to the Pontiac Aztec

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/20...ty-but-dont-let-them-tell-you-what-to-do.html
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Necere and W360 have done an admirable job of staying "on-mission" even while accommodating some suggestions from early posters in this thread. Back then the thread was short and easy to read through (I found it when it was around 15 pages long, maybe more, and read through it all in an hour or two at work). Now that the thread is over 100 pages, reading it completely is a bit of an undertaking. Consequently we have people appearing that think the case has already been sold out, or that it's still in planning, or it should be able to accommodate an mATX mobo. :rolleyes:

I'm cool with that, though. Someone normally clears up the misunderstanding and we keep trucking along.
 
CHANG3D said:
It really could be. But then again, NVidia recommends a minimum system requirement of 500W. So Silverstone probably won't help me in any way. I'll gladly have you experts look at my system if you are in my neighborhood.

Currently I basically "hot-swap" by unplugging one and plugging in the other. I just cannot go with three drives without a lot of crashing.

And yes, I know my PSU is not the 80+ Gold one, but rather the Silver one.
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it's actually bronze. :p
 
M4rk said:
Necere and W360 have done an admirable job of staying "on-mission" even while accommodating some suggestions from early posters in this thread. Back then the thread was short and easy to read through (I found it when it was around 15 pages long, maybe more, and read through it all in an hour or two at work). Now that the thread is over 100 pages, reading it completely is a bit of an undertaking. Consequently we have people appearing that think the case has already been sold out, or that it's still in planning, or it should be able to accommodate an mATX mobo. :rolleyes:

I'm cool with that, though. Someone normally clears up the misunderstanding and we keep trucking along.
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I agree. They've done great.

I was mostly responding to the mounting pressure to "add this" and "change that" which is a certainty as the word gets out on a neat project.
Also, I always try to take the opportunity to spread CodingHorror :D
 
The whole project has been a smashing success to date. You can't please everyone, and they've done a great job of cramming options into a very small case. It's the only case I've found to date that seem to be able to replace my excellent SG05. Since that was it's original purpose... Necere and W360 have done an excellent job of bouncing ideas off of each other, and the community, and have solidified it into a tangible item.
 
crABtoad said:
The whole project has been a smashing success to date. You can't please everyone, and they've done a great job of cramming options into a very small case. It's the only case I've found to date that seem to be able to replace my excellent SG05. Since that was it's original purpose... Necere and W360 have done an excellent job of bouncing ideas off of each other, and the community, and have solidified it into a tangible item.
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I can't wait to get one of these and repurpose my Prodigy. The handle bars are annoying when moving. I like need to wear a glove for it.
 
CHANG3D said:
I can't wait to get one of these and repurpose my Prodigy. The handle bars are annoying when moving. I like need to wear a glove for it.
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You'll probably still want to wear gloves when handling the M1, if just to keep your human grease off the beautiful aluminum.

Mmm, non-stick human grease.
 
You should have a talk with my Lian-Li black anodised case. He doesn't agree with you.
 
*Daedalus said:
It'a anodised, so shouldn't leave fingerprints. :)
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I have yet to ever see a Lian Li case which doesn't contain (nearly) irremovable fingerprints. PC-A09B, PC-A17B, PC-V1000B, PC-V1110A, PC-Q08B, PC-Q09R - all have fingerprints, maybe except PC-Q09R which is red and the fingerprints are hard to see. Everything else has them.
 
Well damn. I had always thought that anodising was supposed to help quite a lot with fingerprints. An old laptop of mine had an anodised aluminium shell and didn't pick up anything at all.
 
The only information I could find on short notice was that the oil from skin will etch/oxidize non-anodized alu cases, and that fingerprints will become part of the surface over time. Anodized don't do this apparently. You would need some kinda of hard, oil-repellent surface to completely avoid fingerprinting... I think.

@Necere, W360: Any ETA on the case prototype? Gettin' antsy. :D
 
crABtoad said:
I think I just over-gasped.
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Necere/Wahaha360: How did Lian Li approach the slot for the optical drive? Did they do a felt insert or brush of some sort?
 
Do you have any testimonials? I can't seem to find any information for this site. Seems sketchy to me, but I'm not on the design crew end.
 
Damn i whant this.

Is it possible too buy this ? I saw that i was too late to donate.
would that mean, that i cant buy one of these ?
 
Solvik89 said:
Damn i whant this.

Is it possible too buy this ? I saw that i was too late to donate.
would that mean, that i cant buy one of these ?
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Not yet. The first crowdfunding campaign was to pay for the prototypes, and there will be a second campaign that will be the one to pay directly for the case.

Just keep this post in favorites, and you will know when this happens ;)
 
prava said:
Not yet. The first crowdfunding campaign was to pay for the prototypes, and there will be a second campaign that will be the one to pay directly for the case.

Just keep this post in favorites, and you will know when this happens ;)
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Thanks for the quick reply.

No doubt about, that I will buy this case! This is the baddest I have seen in a long time!

I never thought of getting me a such a small case, but after I saw this, it is possible and high performance machine, but still small case! Love it!
 
Just noticed the prototype doesn't have the round metal feet. Will they be absent from the retail version, too?
 
No, the retail version will have feet. Lian-Li just didn't have them in when they took the pictures.
 
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