HP ProLiant MicroServer owners' thread

AbRASiON said:
HP ProLiant Gen8 G530T 1P 2GB-U Non-hot Plug SATA 150W PS MicroServer
HP ProLiant Gen8 G630T 1P 2GB-U Non-hot Plug SATA 150W PS MicroServer

Any thoughts on what the specs will be? What does G530T and G630T represent? Thoughts?

http://h30094.www3.hp.com/filterby.aspx?type=0&catid=66&subcatid=3150&prodid=1044753
http://h30094.www3.hp.com/filterby.aspx?type=0&catid=66&subcatid=3150&prodid=1044754
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Seems logical that it represents the CPU:
G630T: http://ark.intel.com/products/53484/
G530T: http://ark.intel.com/products/53415/Intel-Celeron-Processor-G530T-2M-Cache-2_00-GHz

VT-d and AES is out of the question if that is correct :(
 
My guess would be a change of architecture and they're Celeron spec CPUs. Dad's machine I built had a G530. Reasonably quick but not a big step above the Turion. I'd expect maths processing would be a lot better though so multi threading and transcoding on the CPU would be a lot more achievable.
 
My N54L is a HTPC for me but also almost my main PC, I do a lot of browsing and so on with the machine - for the most part it's pretty good - wouldn't complaiin about more.


I picked up one of these Syba Port replicators (and did the BIOS mod)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310534993944&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:AU:3160

I have 7 disks in mine (+ SSD for boot) and I have to say, AVOID that port replicator / multiplier. 99.9% of the time it's fine - but if I really thrash the disks - one of them locks up - not good for a HTPC system, let alone production
 
cantalup said:
OS in USB key/stick , I said "doable but not desirable". you will kill USB stick when writing many times....
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It doesn't quite work like that. Getting any OS to work on a USB Stick isn't easy or should I say the OS needs to support technologies to make this happen.

I use FreeNAS and it only has an image that is readable. There are no major concurrent writes to the USB stick.

Truly it depends on the distro, some USB variants will use an image that is loaded into memory and therefore effectively a RAM Disk. Others have the OS and offload major read and writes to something else.

I love the concept of diskless OS. In General, distro's usually give an appliance like feel with some benefits, its easier, quick, appliance like, upgrade easy and resilient. For the application of Virtual Hosts and NAS solutions in my opinion it's the way to go. However it isn't for everyone and doesn't suit all needs. If you want a "General Server" that isn't an appliance, I'd go Disks.

Thanks to the pointer towards napp-it to go. This wasn't around 2 months ago, and is something I was looking for as a comp to FreeNAS. I'll be checking it out, but the early edition give me pause for production.
 
[OC]Pik4chu;1039785218 said:
I guess I am missing something but is there something that makes those hard drives special that would warrant 2-3x market cost for what basically looks like a normal SATA drive with an HP logo? The way it reads I dont think they are like enterprise class or anything or am I missreading?
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http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product.aspx?sku=3845566&mfg_part=458941-B21&pagemode=ca

Firmware and reliability testing...

To be qualified drives must meet a much tighter spec than desktop drives.
Firmware designed for raid and use with raid controllers.

Whether that makes it worth it or not... is a personal decision.

Its similar to the difference between WD black and WD RE4 only more tuned for specific application.
 
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FlangeMonkey said:
It doesn't quite work like that. Getting any OS to work on a USB Stick isn't easy or should I say the OS needs to support technologies to make this happen.

I use FreeNAS and it only has an image that is readable. There are no major concurrent writes to the USB stick.

Truly it depends on the distro, some USB variants will use an image that is loaded into memory and therefore effectively a RAM Disk. Others have the OS and offload major read and writes to something else.

I love the concept of diskless OS. In General, distro's usually give an appliance like feel with some benefits, its easier, quick, appliance like, upgrade easy and resilient. For the application of Virtual Hosts and NAS solutions in my opinion it's the way to go. However it isn't for everyone and doesn't suit all needs. If you want a "General Server" that isn't an appliance, I'd go Disks.

Thanks to the pointer towards napp-it to go. This wasn't around 2 months ago, and is something I was looking for as a comp to FreeNAS. I'll be checking it out, but the early edition give me pause for production.
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just a random question, but have you tested your r/w speeds? Im just curious how the speeds are compared to the synology ds212j
 
Went through the thread and didn't see any info, so I will ask:

Anyone ever mount an LSI 9207-8e or an H221 HBA in a microserver?

I am running a 3801e right now, and am looking to get an HBA with the advanced power management settings on the 2308 chipset.

Anyone running a different SAS HBA with the ability to spindown drives?

My 30TB array is dinging my power significantly, and for the 90% of the time this sucker is idle, I would love to spindown the drives.
 
So does the N54L have a 12 drive limit? If I use it with unRAID and port multiplier cards and enclosures, will I be able to use 25 drives with this? Twenty drives from enclosures and five internal drives.
 
12 drives is all the bios can see I believe.....
Nothing to do with the OS once loaded up

.
 
pjkenned said:
Hello specs: http://www.servethehome.com/hp-proliant-microserver-gen8-specs-leaked
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And a picture (hopefully hotlinking works):
MicroserverG8.jpg


It looks like that facebook page got deleted pronto :)
 
I can't wait to see the new model released. Since it's socket 1155 it would be awesome if the CPU could be replaced with a Xeon 1230v2 or something else with some more grunt...
 
Just got a N54L microserver and looking to upgrade the ram (Probably don't really need the extra ram since I am not running ZFS but ram is so cheap at the moment I might as well upgrade it).

It came with 2gb ECC ram.

Can I add another stick of 4gb ECC ram to make it 6gb?
Or am I best adding another 2gb ECC ram so that I have 2x 2gb paired sticks?

Are there any major gains from running paired sized memory sticks rather than unmatched memory sticks?

(I realise I can add non-ecc memory, but used ecc memory auctions often go cheap on ebay since not many people bid for it, so I can get it cheaper than non-ecc memory)

Thanks :)
 
sitalchauhan said:
Can I add another stick of 4gb ECC ram to make it 6gb?
Or am I best adding another 2gb ECC ram so that I have 2x 2gb paired sticks?
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You can definitely run 1x 2GB ECC and 1x 4GB ECC without issues. I have done so myseld.

Might even be able to find people that upgraded to the 8GB or 16GB ECC Kingston kits that will take a few dollars for the original DIMM.

sitalchauhan said:
Thanks :)
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You are welcome.

Microserver G8 internal pics are posted. Go and have a look! :)
 
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Mitsimonsta said:
You can definitely run 1x 2GB ECC and 1x 4GB ECC without issues. I have done so myseld.

Might even be able to find people that upgraded to the 8GB or 16GB ECC Kingston kits that will take a few dollars for the original DIMM.



You are welcome.

Microserver G8 internal pics are posted. Go and have a look! :)
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Great work keeping us updated, I can't wait to get my hands on one :)
 
Mitsimonsta said:
You can definitely run 1x 2GB ECC and 1x 4GB ECC without issues. I have done so myseld.

Might even be able to find people that upgraded to the 8GB or 16GB ECC Kingston kits that will take a few dollars for the original DIMM.



You are welcome.

Microserver G8 internal pics are posted. Go and have a look! :)
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Difficult to tell from those photos the most important part - the TOP with the lid off.
How many 3.5" HDD's can be crammed inside the box?
 
I'd guess that since going to a slim-line dvd, you aren't going to get a 3.5 up there. A 2.5 boot drive would be no problem obv. The old one was nice, you could get 5 3.5 in there for a properly sized raidz-1 array, with a 2.5 ssd for the boot drive. Don't think you can get that done with this one, especially if they cut out the esata and only left 1 regular sata port for the dvd.
 
I like it I may have to upgrade mine now. I like the built in dual nic.
 
Anyone use a PCI-E 1x slot for a RAID controller rather than use the onboard RAID? is there any performance gain if one uses SSD's?
 
Hmmm another question...

On the G8 link above it says regarding the old Microserver... "Personally I modded the x1 and proprietary x4 slot into open slots, and dropped a HP NC360T dual-port Gigabit Ethernet card into it"

Anyone modded the x4 port here?
 
On the G7 a few guys over on OCAU who've done this

Have 3 x NC360Ts I need to do this mod on to install in 3 MicroServers
 
haileris said:
Hmmm another question...

On the G8 link above it says regarding the old Microserver... "Personally I modded the x1 and proprietary x4 slot into open slots, and dropped a HP NC360T dual-port Gigabit Ethernet card into it"

Anyone modded the x4 port here?
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my understanding:

I think, he removed X4 slot (HP proprietary for remote card) and make back slot on pci-e X1 .


pci-e 2.X X1 support 500MB/s.... where doable for dual NIC port... but....
NC360T is PCI-e 1.X not 2.0 :p.. bandwidth is bottleneck on the card since utilize only pci-e 1.X X1 on n40l, where only 250MB/s. this is the reason why N360T is X4 not X1.... pci-e 1.X

if you can find dual port NIC with PCI-e 2.X... you are good to go
 
Hello there,

I've just recently purchased a N54L and I've also got my hands on an HP P420 (With no cache module) (Firmware Revision 1.28).

I've been told that you can use the P420 without the module however I'm getting the following error message:

The controller is disabled because the cache module is not attached. Please re-attach the cache module to re-enable the controller.

Has anyone had any experience with using a P420 in a microserver? If I need to get the caching module then so be it but I don't want to waste anymore money if the P420 is not compatible.

Thanks very much,
Jase
 
jmitservices said:
Hello there,

I've just recently purchased a N54L and I've also got my hands on an HP P420 (With no cache module) (Firmware Revision 1.28).

I've been told that you can use the P420 without the module however I'm getting the following error message:

The controller is disabled because the cache module is not attached. Please re-attach the cache module to re-enable the controller.

Has anyone had any experience with using a P420 in a microserver? If I need to get the caching module then so be it but I don't want to waste anymore money if the P420 is not compatible.

Thanks very much,
Jase
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is the error messange is shown during booting-up?
you need a memory module for P420, as I know.
 
jmitservices said:
Hello there,

I've just recently purchased a N54L and I've also got my hands on an HP P420 (With no cache module) (Firmware Revision 1.28).

I've been told that you can use the P420 without the module however I'm getting the following error message:

The controller is disabled because the cache module is not attached. Please re-attach the cache module to re-enable the controller.

Has anyone had any experience with using a P420 in a microserver? If I need to get the caching module then so be it but I don't want to waste anymore money if the P420 is not compatible.


Thanks very much,
Jase
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ZMR mode should be supported. FW: 1.28 is the very first firmware release and ZMR may not have been a supported config on launch.

If I were you I would try the latest fw: 3.54.
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...kId=135&swItem=MTX-05957d9347c6453988e24232be
 
Just to confirm... I had my module turn up today and its working fine inside the microserver!

Now to get some hard drives!
 
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