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Burnout01

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Hey guys,

Does anyone here sell Compellent arrays? I've been working on a quote with a local company and had a few questions about the pricing and options. I'm hoping to talk to someone more as a friend instead of a salesman.

One question is they are pricing out a SC200 with 12 1TB SAS 7.2k drives instead of SC220. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if this is more of a cost savings option or performance option. If I went with the 220, I would still have 12 bays to expand into where the 200 would already be full.

Thank you.
 
The SC220 looks like you would get more IOPS out of it with more spindles.
The 200 has a higher total capacity (with 4TB SAS 3.5" disks).

What do you want to do with the array?
 
As Hotcrandel said, it's the difference between 12 high-capacity 3.5" drives and 24 much lower capacity 2.5" drives. What does your balance lie between price and performance?
 
hotcrandel said:
The SC220 looks like you would get more IOPS out of it with more spindles.
The 200 has a higher total capacity (with 4TB SAS 3.5" disks).

What do you want to do with the array?
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I have 20 VM's running on three ESXi hosts connected to a MD3000i. I'm wanting to replace the MD due to it being out of warranty. I'm hoping to get something that will perform better and give me growth along with snapshot functionality to lower my RPO. I'm also looking into the possibly of VDI for 75 users.
 
Nate7311 said:
As Hotcrandel said, it's the difference between 12 high-capacity 3.5" drives and 24 much lower capacity 2.5" drives. What does your balance lie between price and performance?
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The price and performance difference is what I'm trying to find out. I was quoted 1TB drives which I believe come in the 2.5 form factor. What I was quoted would give me roughly 1000 IOPS. So my thought is, if the 220 isn't much more, then I could save when I needed to add disks.
 
Just build your own system with MD1200/MD1220s. Get a server like the R720 with lots of ram for the the head unit and install a version of Solaris with Napp-IT webgui for management. Get LSI 9207-8e cards to connect the MD12XX jbods.

No vendor lock-in. Dell will replace failed drives if you pay for the support. Can easily add more shelves as necessary. Solaris ZFS has built-in snapshots, data redundancy, and utilizes ram and ssds as read cache.
 
Suprnaut said:
Just build your own system with MD1200/MD1220s. Get a server like the R720 with lots of ram for the the head unit and install a version of Solaris with Napp-IT webgui for management. Get LSI 9207-8e cards to connect the MD12XX jbods.

No vendor lock-in. Dell will replace failed drives if you pay for the support. Can easily add more shelves as necessary. Solaris ZFS has built-in snapshots, data redundancy, and utilizes ram and ssds as read cache.
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Damn I wish I worked wherever you work.

My IT Manager is a stupid dumb fuck and this would never fly with him :(
 
I work for a Dell Premier partner. Can get you pricing and any info you still require, just let me know. We also work with another storage array vendor that competes with Dell/HP at a much lower price point, company name is IceWeb. Check them out on the web if you get a chance.
 
Burnout01 said:
I have 20 VM's running on three ESXi hosts connected to a MD3000i. I'm wanting to replace the MD due to it being out of warranty. I'm hoping to get something that will perform better and give me growth along with snapshot functionality to lower my RPO. I'm also looking into the possibly of VDI for 75 users.
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Does the 3000i have a full complement of disks? What kind are in it? Are you wanting to stick with iSCSI or move to Fibrechannel?

If you are planning for VDI in there as well, then you'll definately need a fair amount of beef to go with capacity. As you suggested in your post, I'd definately look at the 220.


Suprnaut said:
Just build your own system with MD1200/MD1220s. Get a server like the R720 with lots of ram for the the head unit and install a version of Solaris with Napp-IT webgui for management. Get LSI 9207-8e cards to connect the MD12XX jbods.

No vendor lock-in. Dell will replace failed drives if you pay for the support. Can easily add more shelves as necessary. Solaris ZFS has built-in snapshots, data redundancy, and utilizes ram and ssds as read cache.
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As I've posted before, at 3am When his ZFS goes wonky, who's going to fix it? Everyone suggesting Whitebox ZFS needs to realize that this is a production environment. Downtime ends careers. The suggestion is a respectable scenario, but the OP is replacing equipment because end of Warranty with higher end SAN equipment. I'm not sure a homegrown solution is what he's looking for. Also Compellent has ZFS solutions as well.
 
Nate7311 said:
Does the 3000i have a full complement of disks? What kind are in it? Are you wanting to stick with iSCSI or move to Fibrechannel?

If you are planning for VDI in there as well, then you'll definately need a fair amount of beef to go with capacity. As you suggested in your post, I'd definately look at the 220.




As I've posted before, at 3am When his ZFS goes wonky, who's going to fix it? Everyone suggesting Whitebox ZFS needs to realize that this is a production environment. Downtime ends careers. The suggestion is a respectable scenario, but the OP is replacing equipment because end of Warranty with higher end SAN equipment. I'm not sure a homegrown solution is what he's looking for. Also Compellent has ZFS solutions as well.
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Then go with Nexenta for the support or a premaid Nexenta solution from one of their partners. That is what I did at my work, saved the client over a million dollars and $100K in annual support for NetApp.
 
Nate7311 said:
Does the 3000i have a full complement of disks? What kind are in it? Are you wanting to stick with iSCSI or move to Fibrechannel?

If you are planning for VDI in there as well, then you'll definately need a fair amount of beef to go with capacity. As you suggested in your post, I'd definately look at the 220.




As I've posted before, at 3am When his ZFS goes wonky, who's going to fix it? Everyone suggesting Whitebox ZFS needs to realize that this is a production environment. Downtime ends careers. The suggestion is a respectable scenario, but the OP is replacing equipment because end of Warranty with higher end SAN equipment. I'm not sure a homegrown solution is what he's looking for. Also Compellent has ZFS solutions as well.
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The 3000i has 15 x 600GB SAS 15k drives in it. I was planning on staying with iSCSI for a bit. FC will be around another 15k and I'll look at it when we get closer to VDI.
 
If you're looking to stay with iSCSI and Dell, then I'd look more at the Equallogic offerings than Compellent. MUCH easier administration as well and an iSCSI focus, rather than as a secondary connection type. Equallogic also supports autotiering, snapshotting, and replication as well. They operate on an all-inclusive philosophy for features.

Was your MD3000i chassis not able to keep up with demand or...? I'd look at either an Equallogic 4100/6100 chassis with 24x600GB 10k 2.5" drives. 14.4TB raw capacity and more than double the performance of your existing MD3000i.
 
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