Gamer Shuts Self In Home For 6 Years

dgz said:
I feel you but staying home is a bad choice. I would recommend going some place deserted, even wild. Nature is a great place to be social... in a way :D
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...a great place to be social with a volley ball.

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Pretty sure USMCGrunt had lots of those social gathers during his details :D
 
Man it saddens me that people are calling this a "mental illness"

There is nothing wrong with being anti-social if the kid likes it.

I mean who cares if this kid doesn't want to go outside and play with humanity? That's no reason to think of him as a defective person.

To think!!! Some people are "OK" with same sex marriages, "OK" with race equality, "OK" with destroying the planet for short term gain, "OK" with torturing animals before eating them because it "improves the flavor"....

But this dude likes to hang out by himself and we are calling him "MENTALLY ILL"

ridiculous!!!
 
And for all we know, he's in a clan and hanging out in a different way.

I would only consider it a mental illness if he would like to go out but can't because he suffers from some kind of fear or anxiety about being around people.
 
Megalith said:
I'm confused as to why staying home is considered a social taboo.
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Youn said:
Wow, it really saddens me to hear from people who feel most people are "bad". I've never met someone I felt that way about. Maybe I just grew up in a really nice/friendly place (Detroit) or I don't judge people based on a superficial first impression (not saying you do, of course!) or I just see all these people as giant babies in need of some comfort or maybe a little burp to spit up the "yuckies"... we were all babies at one point anyways, and that purity never completely goes away. It just gets buried a bit.

Again, I'm not saying those who disagree are wrong, it's just sad to imagine how you must feel.

:(
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how wealthy are your parents? detroit is the most dangerous city in the country, there are without a doubt some bad people there. you may have been fortunate enough to be raised in one of the wealthier parts of the city, but for many low-income families in the worse parts of the city i would say they probably have to watch out for bad people on a daily basis.
 
no edit but to megalith i was gonna say that being anti-social can certainly be considered a social taboo. doesnt mean its necessarily bad or unhealthy, but its definitely taboo.
 
It is not like hikikomori is limited to China. Heck that is a Japanese term...
 
NeoNemesis said:
I seriously doubt that this is what this individual was doing. Also, sealing yourself inside for the better part of a decade will affect your mental health even if you can avoid the physical effects.
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Maybe not, who knows.

Why would it affect your mental health? Instead of soccer you can be in a World of Tanks clan and play with teammates on teamspeak every day. You can keep up with friends, family, and coworkers on facebook after work. You can bust out the webcam and chat away with everyone for "face time" in Lync or whatever. There are so many tools for social interaction now that don't require you to actually get up, drive some where, and hug it out. Besides, just because he didn't go anywhere doesn't mean people didn't visit him in person to give him his snail-mail, sandwiches, BJs, all the things a guy needs to live.

But you're right, he might be a super weirdo pizza face hermit with mental problems, its just kinda unfair to assume that.
 
Ducman69 said:
But you're right, he might be a super weirdo pizza face hermit with mental problems, its just kinda unfair to assume that.
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If that's the case than I don't blame him. Some people really got shafted in the genetic pool. If you're not at least average looking, then you've got no shot at being an alpha.
 
No edit so what I meant to say it : good looking, very intelligent, lots of money. You need at least one to be able to survive in modern society.
 
Damn. I love going outside. I'm not the most social person in the world, at all, but I love it outside. I used to play outside when I was a kid, and I still love outside. I'm more into yard work and gardening now, but I still like to play. Socially, I have work and stuff.

I couldn't get stuck inside for 6 years. I know I've been inside for a few days straight (Age of Empires 2). But, longer than that? I get cabin fever when it snows or rains too much and I'm stuck inside.
 
USMCGrunt said:
Blah, ive lived in the wilderness, not even remotely interested in doing it again...I like my climate controlled house, and electricity, and media....but 99% of the population I can do without interacting with.
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That leaves around 70 million people for you to interact with. Get to work! :D
 
blade52x said:
No edit so what I meant to say it : good looking, very intelligent, lots of money. You need at least one to be able to survive in modern society.
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This is probably the most narrow definition of survival I've ever seen.
 
ekuest said:
how wealthy are your parents? detroit is the most dangerous city in the country, there are without a doubt some bad people there. you may have been fortunate enough to be raised in one of the wealthier parts of the city, but for many low-income families in the worse parts of the city i would say they probably have to watch out for bad people on a daily basis.
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Between growing up/living in Detroit and working in IT and fixing computers on the side, I've learned that people are stupid, spiteful or both.
 
I call shens! We all know that gamers become mass murderers...and it's kinda hard to go on a murderous gamer rampage if you never even leave your house. :p
 
To be honest, its kind of hard to just shut yourself in a home for 6 years. I mean really. I used to be a hardcore gamer too, and had my 10+ hour gaming sessions, but to just not leave your house for 6 years is kind of a new level of addiction. I guess society in China may be different from the US. Its kind of hard to never leave your house. There are certain every day activities that require you to leave your home here heh.

I dont think I could do it. I almost question if I am taking the news headline too literal heh.
 
DrDoug said:
That leaves around 70 million people for you to interact with. Get to work! :D
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70 million people spread out across 196,939,900 square miles (Square mileage of Earth)....that's a population density of people I would prefer to associate with of 2.8 people per sq. mile. Obviously actual densities will be higher near metro areas but really....that's trying to find a needle in a haystack of anger and rage (aka the other people I don't want to be around).

Honestly Youn, you sound pretty naïve to think that most people are good and pure. It's nice to pretend that everyone has a pure and good side to them...but most have lost it....or maybe im just bitter, coin toss.

Ducman, while we don't have a lot of information to go off of, most people would agree that attacking someone with a knife who just wants to talk is a bit outside social norms. This action alone indicates either a lack of social development due to mental retardation or social skills degradation from social isolation. Since he wasn't stated as being mentally retarded, we can assume he's suffering from the seclusion.
 
dgingeri said:
If I didn't have family (sisters, parents, nieces and nephews) who need to see me periodically and a regular job to pay for my apartment, I probably wouldn't leave home either.

The outside world sucks. People are mean and selfish, and don't generally care if they get in the way of other people. Oh, sure, they say "I'm sorry about that." and "I'm sorry, I didn't see you there." but they do things that show a complete disregard for others constantly. That's about 80-90% of the population. I stay in as much as I can. I can sympathize with this guy.
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USMCGrunt said:
Honestly Youn, you sound pretty naïve
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Maybe, I like to keep an open mind about those sorts of things :) I have been told I have an unusual ability to see the good in people. We didn't live in downtown detroit, but near it, ym family wasn't rich, probably lower middle class? we did have homeless people living in our backyards, though, and I always felt sorry for them and wanted to help. Living in Downtown Vancouver for a year was a little bit scary, though... but once I started to talk to more homeless/addicted people I got comfortable. Of course, that's considered one of the nicest cities.

I guess you can choose to just see the bad in the world, or you can understand it's there but focus on the good instead. It's not denial it's positive re-enforcement. In some tribes they practice this when someone gets in trouble, telling the person their good qualities and supporting them to make a positive change by their own decision. Being forced to act a certain way I think is very counter-productive, but just telling someone "hey, you are good at that" I think goes a long way into helping them realize their true potential.

...or I'm just a naive space cadet... I at least admit I have my blonde moments
 
USMCGrunt said:
Humans are a naturally social animal and when one of them gets cut off from the rest, they tend to develop odd behavior in an effort to cope with the seclusion. When attempting to reintegrate these people they have difficulty readapting to society or reject completely falling deeper into seclusion. It's a very well documented part of humanity and Hollywood has also copied it many times over in many different movies.

Personally, life has beaten the shit out of me so much lately that I wish I had the option to not go out into society. Like has been said earlier in the thread, I find most people to be self absorbed, self centered assholes that would rather watch you burn then help you out.
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Shit I am there with you dude and you are spot on in your assessment of people.
 
Here is the problem with people in general:

70 years ago before this INTERNET and so call class warfare and overpopulation people had to go outside to interact.

People actually had to talk to other people and you didn't have this disparity that existed between educated and non educated people.

If you had an issue with your bank sure the motherfucker who owned the bank might have been rich, but it was someone you spoke to every day.

Sure there was some people who were poor, but they weren't poor by today's standards and there was enough resources to really go around vs the population.

Now a days nothing is like that.

if I have a problem with my Sprint phone I have to call 10 different all who are on opposite sides of the world or the US where they are paid such a shit wage it is hard for them to even care about helping anyone out vs just being a body to do the work.

Then you go outside your local community and enough people really ain't go no time to help other people. They are struggling to either get ahead or survive and we have TV shows etc. or just about everything in the media suggesting that people chase this inevitable carrot of richness. We see how rich people and see what comes with that in our society (respect/women/men/luxury and we have new markets for luxury) that unless I am getting something for my services then someone else can fuck off.

Of course not everyone is like this :) I am just generalizing.
 
Wait, what? There were no poor people in 1943 by today's standards?

It's not an online problem, people can Skype their loved ones across the globe, or discuss their love of anime or Neil Gaiman's works when nobody else in their small farming town gives a damn, they can learn about a gaming club or movie night and go check it out, etc.
 
staticlag said:
Man it saddens me that people are calling this a "mental illness"

There is nothing wrong with being anti-social if the kid likes it.

I mean who cares if this kid doesn't want to go outside and play with humanity? That's no reason to think of him as a defective person.QUOTE]

Yea there was nothing wrong with Seung Cho, Adam Lanza, James Holmes when faced with anti-social behavior. How dare some one use anti-scoial behavior as a flag for mental illness. :rolleyes:
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singe_101 said:
Wait, what? There were no poor people in 1943 by today's standards?

It's not an online problem, people can Skype their loved ones across the globe, or discuss their love of anime or Neil Gaiman's works when nobody else in their small farming town gives a damn, they can learn about a gaming club or movie night and go check it out, etc.
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Poor people in 1943 are way more poorer by todays standards. Or the poor people today have less money than they did in 1943.
 
Youn said:
Maybe, I like to keep an open mind about those sorts of things :) I have been told I have an unusual ability to see the good in people. We didn't live in downtown detroit, but near it, ym family wasn't rich, probably lower middle class? we did have homeless people living in our backyards, though, and I always felt sorry for them and wanted to help. Living in Downtown Vancouver for a year was a little bit scary, though... but once I started to talk to more homeless/addicted people I got comfortable. Of course, that's considered one of the nicest cities.

I guess you can choose to just see the bad in the world, or you can understand it's there but focus on the good instead. It's not denial it's positive re-enforcement. In some tribes they practice this when someone gets in trouble, telling the person their good qualities and supporting them to make a positive change by their own decision. Being forced to act a certain way I think is very counter-productive, but just telling someone "hey, you are good at that" I think goes a long way into helping them realize their true potential.

...or I'm just a naive space cadet... I at least admit I have my blonde moments
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Of course there's usually a way to find a positive side to most situations and talking to the downtrodden invokes a sense of sympathy to their plight. Of all things, working for Dish Network and going to a lot of poor peoples homes gave me that ability. At the same time though, there is a reason that person fell into their predicament and its usually a result of that person's direct actions.

LeninGHOLA said:
A bit. People can be shitty, but if the majority of people were shitty this world would be burning.
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I hate to sound this way because it sounds a bit crazy or over dramatic but, don't you feel it coming? Things seem to be getting worse with social classes becoming more and more distant, the ability to climb out of your social class becoming more difficult due to rising costs in everything and the seeming declining value of your work.

I dunno, I definitely want to be wrong because im working my ass off to get out of the low income class but at every turn I keep finding my ass filled with smoke instead of my head filled with knowledge.
 
USMCGrunt said:
I hate to sound this way because it sounds a bit crazy or over dramatic but, don't you feel it coming? QUOTE]

I was going to post something in this thread about you being misanthropic and that there are more good people out there than you think but alas, depending on where you live and what strata you live on things are indeed getting grim.

I live in a lily white part of the USA where nearly everyone is well fed and employed (who wants to be) and it is still easy to see the breakdown of society.

I definately feel it coming and I think it was intentionally done to us.
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USMCGrunt said:
I dunno, I definitely want to be wrong because im working my ass off to get out of the low income class but at every turn I keep finding my ass filled with smoke instead of my head filled with knowledge.
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I agree it is incoming. It is statistically proven. Poor people is a board definition, but children born to people under a certain income level have a higher chance for things like teen pregnancy, poorer education which impacts their ability to learn.

I am not saying there isn't a poor kid that doesn't score a 36 on their ACT, but in general it is much more difficult today than it was in the past.

And people that are middle class can't really afford to have children since they are in general much more educated than poorer non educated people.

And thats part of the issue. Same thing happened in Japan. We need middle class consumers to buy products and pay sales taxes otherwise we will just have to raise taxes on ourselves to pay for the older generation that doesn't pay as much in taxes but uses quite a bit of the services like medicare.
 
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