More Video Games Cause Violence BS

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Remember that insanely stupid study that measured the effects of violent video games by the amount of chili powder people put in someone's drink? Here is more of that BS, with one professor even claiming there is a direct link between video games and violence. :rolleyes: Listen to what he says at the two minute mark and I dare you not to laugh.

The results clearly showed that playing a violent video game increases aggressive behavior, and also makes people numb to the pain and suffering of others. There is a link between exposure to violent media and violent criminal behavior. We can't do experimental studies. It's just a correlation. Correlation doesn't imply causation, but they're related.
 
Every time I read this stuff it must make me horny, because after I read it all I want to say is "suck my dick"

Seriously enough already with this let's blame video games crap.
 
Can't even be bothered to watch it, we already know that the people that snap and go on a shooting spree were mentally messed up, not sure how Minecraft and Dynasty warriors would relate to someone going postal.
 
So my wife and I were just talking about this, and with all the games we play, she said we should have been mass murderers decades ago.

And don't forgot playing Cowboys and Indians or Cops and Robbers, with playing all those violent games we should be on a killing spree.
 
After playing Farmville for 30 seconds I haave urges to murder people...

what about the Sims, do you make a basement with a door and invite sims down, and then remove the door and watch them die?

what other game lets you be a serial killer and is targeted at children? ;)
 
What game was that at 2:38? It looked kinda cool and now i want to try it! Thanks for finding a new game for me to simulate killing people with, you anti-video game "news" piece!
 
How much did this chump get in research grants? cuz I say revoke all that money now!

Millions of people play violent video games. Only 1 psycho every now and then goes out on a rampage.
What a correlation that is.

This shit is so full of confounding factors that every study is worthless.
 
What game was that at 2:38? It looked kinda cool and now i want to try it! Thanks for finding a new game for me to simulate killing people with, you anti-video game "news" piece!

Looks like Far Cry 3
 
Omfg, I nearly fell off my chair when he said "You are tied for the lead". :D
 
I always love how there is always a new scapegoat and the huge underlying issue of mental health problems is always a side note or ignored completely. How many of the shooters in these incidents were already diagnosed or from their writings etc could be diagnosed with almost pure certainty to a variety of mental health problems? As far as I can remember 100% but let's say it is somewhere like 95% for the sake of argument...
That to me points to the fact that our society needs to stop wasting time and money on things that "might be related" but probably aren't and focus in on what we absolutely know is a problem. Getting proper health care in the US can be expensive and at times hard to find, but at least it has no real social stigmas about it. Getting proper mental health care is expensive, impossible to find depending on where you are located, and has huge and varied social stigmas that can cause a person to be isolated, lose jobs, and even lose friends and family mostly due to ignorance and fear. Oh yeah, that really will encourage people to go seek it when they need it. In some cases where they made the right choice and were seeking help the external pressures from society coupled with the internal pressures of the mental problems either make them unable to or decide not to continue the treatments leading to breakdowns or worse. But of course it is easier to point fingers and pass the buck than admit the real problem is something we have known all along and ignored. :rolleyes:
 
These researchers need to do a study in the south and west sides of Chicago where REAL violence can be studied in REAL TIME.
 
He was quoting Quakelive properly, gotta give him some props for getting that right.

Other than that, post #17 is spot on.
 
"I think one thing that people don't understand that well about video games is what it feels like to play them."

This.
 
If anyone recalls before the popularity of gaming exploded the target of violence in kids was rock music. Anyone remember Tipper Gore dragging AC/DC over the coals because of their rock lyrics?
Since Hard Rock has given way to Britney Spears type music in the main stream you have to find another devil. Before Rock music, it was DANCING that was dragging the kids to hell. :rolleyes:
 
If anyone recalls before the popularity of gaming exploded the target of violence in kids was rock music. Anyone remember Tipper Gore dragging AC/DC over the coals because of their rock lyrics?
Since Hard Rock has given way to Britney Spears type music in the main stream you have to find another devil. Before Rock music, it was DANCING that was dragging the kids to hell. :rolleyes:

Dungeons and Dragons players kill babies.
 
Australia and New Zealand have the same games/movies but we don't have anything close to the level of gun violence. The one big difference we don't make guns so easily available and control access to them. I am not in any way anti guns (competed in trap shooting, done my share of hunting) but seriously do you really need military weapons or concealed hand guns?
From the outside on the topic of gun control your law makers like idiots and the NRA the biggest group of arse-hats in history.
 
Australia and New Zealand have the same games/movies but we don't have anything close to the level of gun violence. The one big difference we don't make guns so easily available and control access to them. I am not in any way anti guns (competed in trap shooting, done my share of hunting) but seriously do you really need military weapons or concealed hand guns?
From the outside on the topic of gun control your law makers like idiots and the NRA the biggest group of arse-hats in history.

What do guns have to do with it? Places like Australia and the UK have horrible knife violence, but is it relevant to the topic at hand?
 
Fucking IDIOT!!!!!!

The only thing that makes me mad is that I have a 20MBps TW cable modem and the video buffers every 30sec!!! WTF! That makes me more violent than any game I ever played!!!
 
What do guns have to do with it? Places like Australia and the UK have horrible knife violence, but is it relevant to the topic at hand?

Not going to say there isn't knife violence, but much of the reported violence is bashings involving alcohol or the more unfortunate occurrence of racial motivated attacks. Every country has it's thugs. That said mass killings are not going to happen with knives.

As for relevance, the news report was framed by a mass shooting, and went on to show a whole range of games involving shooting.
 
Can't even be bothered to watch it, we already know that the people that snap and go on a shooting spree were mentally messed up, not sure how Minecraft and Dynasty warriors would relate to someone going postal.

Falling in lava with 32 diamonds on you.......and playing any Dynasty Warriors past version 5.

Proof positive that video games make you go postal. :D
 
Not going to say there isn't knife violence, but much of the reported violence is bashings involving alcohol or the more unfortunate occurrence of racial motivated attacks. Every country has it's thugs. That said mass killings are not going to happen with knives.

As for relevance, the news report was framed by a mass shooting, and went on to show a whole range of games involving shooting.
Sorry missed that this is in relation to Australia. UK I can't make a call on.
 
The results clearly showed that playing a violent video game increases aggressive behavior, and also makes people numb to the pain and suffering of others. There is a link between exposure to violent media and violent criminal behavior. We can't do experimental studies. It's just a correlation. Correlation doesn't imply causation, but they're related.

I know I'm going to be a dick, but here goes. Since when does my behavior in reacting to the pain and suffering of others any concern for anyone who makes public policy or legislation? This is clearly thought control and the idea that you would legislate based. Also, they fully well know that correlation isn't causation, but have no qualms saying the two are related. No they aren't. There are plenty of psychopaths and sociopaths living amongst us who are not violent nor criminal nor would ever be. Shocker.
 
Not going to say there isn't knife violence, but much of the reported violence is bashings involving alcohol or the more unfortunate occurrence of racial motivated attacks. Every country has it's thugs. That said mass killings are not going to happen with knives.

As for relevance, the news report was framed by a mass shooting, and went on to show a whole range of games involving shooting.

I understand that. Just keep in mind that people with concealed carry licences or tax stamps for larger weapons are the least likely to commit violent gun crime.
 
what about the Sims, do you make a basement with a door and invite sims down, and then remove the door and watch them die?

what other game lets you be a serial killer and is targeted at children? ;)

Waiting for the serial rapist DLC to round it out.
 
The government and people in general love simple solutions to complex problems:

30's - movies are degrading society and morality ... enter the Hays Code (later replaced by the MPAA rating system)
50's - comic books are turning our innocent children into whores and hoodlums (per "Seduction of the Innocent") ... enter the CCA
80's - music was leading our children astray ... enter warning labels
90's - video games are causing our children to commit acts of wanton violence ... enter the ESRB

It is so easy to try and blame one thing for society's problems and then ban or regulate it ... much easier than the real problem (that some people are off their rocker) and the real solution (trying to identify and treat them before they go on a killing spree)

The easiest (although also unpopular solution) might be to treat video games the same as we do pornography ... sell them to adults over the age of 18 only ... I don't buy into the video game violence theory but if they want to put their money where their mouth is then is the right solution
 
Video game violence in the real world shouldn't be that big of a problem. Some people agree that it is a problem and give out various reasons and scenarios, that’s all fine. I don’t believe it’s that big of an issue but it should be discussed as such. When I play a violent video game, it doesn't make me aggressive in any way, shape, or form. I think that it all depends on how your mind works, varying from person to person. The parents although should really watch what they buy their kids for their Xbox or Playstation. It’s mostly up to them to teach their kid that it’s simply a game and should be just for fun, nothing serious. Also, the game rating on the cover is there for a reason. If it’s rated M for mature (17+), maybe the parent shouldn't buy it for say a 12 year old for example. An alternative would be a rated E for everyone game.
 
Might as well go after Mario, because that is also a violent game killing little animals.


Chuck did it wrong.
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Thing is, there is no violence. It is moving pixels on a screen. Where's the violence? Images created by machines are violence now?
 
I remember back in the day Pac Man and digdug caused a huge scare in the public eye. Killers were born ever day.
 
Why we waste money on these so called analysts? We can put those money into good use. If games affect people like that, why don't we see people go out and be hero like in some games?
 
He rails on about first person shooters then they cut away to a cropped image of GTA 4 being played that is wholly played in the third-person. Stellar reporting there, PBS. Not that I'm at all shocked. Also fantastic this intellectual refuse came out of my university. Makes me feel great about that, yeah. I love how so rarely medications are ever brought up by the media with stories of violent rampages. It's especially telling given how many of them end up linked to anti-depressants but that's always revealed in a short follow-up article or in a small quip before returning to rants on violent video games.
 
There are some excellent points raised about the 8 minute mark.
 
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