Galaxy Note 2, whose getting one?

Zorachus said:
People on Verizon's grandfathered plan, that say they have "Unlimited". I am curious what is unlimited to Verizon ? To me unlimited means unlimited, can I download a full HD movie every day for 30 days, that might be 150GB/Month, is that cool with Verizon, because I am on unlimited ? LOL I doubt that.

Fuck Verizon, I am so happy with Straight Talk ATT, = $45/Month for unlimited minutes, unlimited texts, 2.5GB data, no contract, no commitment.
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Yeah, it pretty much is truely unlimited. I've seen that screen shot BeavermanA is referencing above and many others of people using over 100 GBs without penalty from Verizon. I've read that they can throttle on 3G if the tower/area is congested, but I've also read that they can't throttle on 4G due to an agreement with the FCC when they purchased the 4G spectrum. I don't think people would be this adament about keeping unlimited data if it wasn't really unlimited.

I think I'm getting what I pay for to have unlimited data on the countries largest and fastest (or at least as fast as other carrier's) LTE network. I just got back from a business trip where I used around 20 GBs over 2 weeks and it was 10-20 times faster than the hotels network (1-3 Mb/s vs 20-50 Mb/s). I was able to VPN to work and transfer large files quickly, stream HD Netflix and download my anime torrents at 2-3 MB/s (thats Bytes, not bits ;)).

So I'm going to rape their network for all I can for as long as I can just in spite of their craptastic tiered data plans and their absurd prices for each tier. :D
 
For what it's worth, a few months ago a friend of mine and I decided to see who could use more data on our phones. I, on AT&T, used 34GB. He, on Verizon, used 27GB. He got a phone call from VZW telling him not to do it again, or they'd terminate his unlimited data. The next month I used 82GB.

I don't know what their artificial limit is, if any. It may be node-based. I didn't witness this phone call with Verizon, but I do trust the guy that it happened. Bottom line is, it's truly unlimited until they call you, at which point, you've been warned.
 
Medion said:
For what it's worth, a few months ago a friend of mine and I decided to see who could use more data on our phones. I, on AT&T, used 34GB. He, on Verizon, used 27GB. He got a phone call from VZW telling him not to do it again, or they'd terminate his unlimited data. The next month I used 82GB.

I don't know what their artificial limit is, if any. It may be node-based. I didn't witness this phone call with Verizon, but I do trust the guy that it happened. Bottom line is, it's truly unlimited until they call you, at which point, you've been warned.
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I've always used way more than 27gb per month in my almost two years of being a VZW customer and have never been throttled, called, warned, etc.

In fact, ATT has been throttled their grandfathered, unlimited data plans for over a year now. You can use 82gb with ATT on unlimited, but it should be very difficult to get that high once you're throttled after the 3gb/5gb mark.

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nerdydesi said:
In fact, ATT has been throttled their grandfathered, unlimited data plans for over a year now. You can use 82gb with ATT on unlimited, but it should be very difficult to get that high once you're throttled after the 3gb/5gb mark.
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I'm on AT&T MediaNet, so I don't get throttled after 3GB. I also only pay $10/mo with no tethering/hoptspot restrictions.

I get the same speed at 80GB that I get at 1GB :)
 
Medion said:
For what it's worth, a few months ago a friend of mine and I decided to see who could use more data on our phones. I, on AT&T, used 34GB. He, on Verizon, used 27GB. He got a phone call from VZW telling him not to do it again, or they'd terminate his unlimited data. The next month I used 82GB.

I don't know what their artificial limit is, if any. It may be node-based. I didn't witness this phone call with Verizon, but I do trust the guy that it happened. Bottom line is, it's truly unlimited until they call you, at which point, you've been warned.
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What were you doing on your phone to use 34GB?!?

Anyway, it doesn't seem like a specific limit. I guess the carriers would sometimes detect if some of their users are going over a specific threshold data limit. Some will be bothered to call, others will be too busy with other problems. Luck of the draw I guess.
 
nerdydesi said:
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Lol, that's awesome. If I can ever get LTE at my house, I'm going to drop my home ISP for a month or two, then sign back up for their introductory rates again. Right now I'm paying $80/month for 20 Mb/s service, but never see over 13 Mb/s. With LTE, I'm sure it would be faster with maybe a tad more latency, but I don't game anymore so that doesn't matter.

[quote="Medion, post: 1039568428"]For what it's worth, a few months ago a friend of mine and I decided to see who could use more data on our phones. I, on AT&T, used 34GB. He, on Verizon, used 27GB. He got a phone call from VZW telling him not to do it again, or they'd terminate his unlimited data. The next month I used 82GB.
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On what terms could they terminate his unlimited data? I don't see how they could make that threat unless they knew he was tethering or he just admitted it. That's the first report I've ever heard of Verizon calling anyone for anything like that though. What phone was he using? I've heard of AT&T sending jailbroken iPhone users using MyWi (I think that's what it's called) SMS messages telling them to either pay the tethering fees or they will be dropped from unlimited data and moved to their shared data plans. So I wonder if Verizon is doing the same thing with iPhone users. I haven't heard of Android users getting anything like that from AT&T, so I don't think is as easily detected.
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Sweet, FoxFi works without root for wireless tether.

Need to root this thing and put a custom rom on it badly though. Ran out of time last night between backing up stuff on our phones, and setting up the GS3 for the wife.
 
BeavermanA said:
Sweet, FoxFi works without root for wireless tether.

Need to root this thing and put a custom ROM on it badly though. Ran out of time last night between backing up stuff on our phones, and setting up the GS3 for the wife.
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Some good Touchwiz stock ROM's out there, cleanROM is great. But this week I went to try out some new CM10.1 ROM's, and my god, no way am I going back to Touchwiz. The best is the official CM10.1 Nightlies, rock solid stable, and fantastic battery life, a full day heavy use, and two days light use. Plus it is crazy warp speed smooth fast, way smoother than Touchwiz.

Papyrus is a great Note writing app in the Play Store, works great in CM10.1

With CM10.1 you get true Group messaging and Quick Reply from status bar. Touchwiz does not have either of those. And the CM dialer / contacts are just better designed and easier to swipe back and forth around, compared to TW dialer. Plus CM is just much smoother.
 
Zorachus said:
Some good Touchwiz stock ROM's out there, cleanROM is great. But this week I went to try out some new CM10.1 ROM's, and my god, no way am I going back to Touchwiz. The best is the official CM10.1 Nightlies, rock solid stable, and fantastic battery life, a full day heavy use, and two days light use. Plus it is crazy warp speed smooth fast, way smoother than Touchwiz.

Papyrus is a great Note writing app in the Play Store, works great in CM10.1

With CM10.1 you get true Group messaging and Quick Reply from status bar. Touchwiz does not have either of those. And the CM dialer / contacts are just better designed and easier to swipe back and forth around, compared to TW dialer. Plus CM is just much smoother.
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Yea think I'm going to start with a Touchwiz ROM, only because I've been on CM10 roms with my GS3 for months. Put a TW ROM on the GS3 for my wife since it'll be easier for her and she doesn't need the limitless options, and it was a nice change of pace.

Although your points for CM are making me think twice. Will definitely give it a go after a few days. Love all the customizations. Amazing how you don't notice how limited you are on a stock rom, until you are on one lol.

My Thunderbolt, GS3 and Nexus 7 were rooted and flashed with a custom ROM immediately after charging them for the first time.
 
Zorachus said:
Some good Touchwiz stock ROM's out there, cleanROM is great. But this week I went to try out some new CM10.1 ROM's, and my god, no way am I going back to Touchwiz. The best is the official CM10.1 Nightlies, rock solid stable, and fantastic battery life, a full day heavy use, and two days light use. Plus it is crazy warp speed smooth fast, way smoother than Touchwiz.

Papyrus is a great Note writing app in the Play Store, works great in CM10.1

With CM10.1 you get true Group messaging and Quick Reply from status bar. Touchwiz does not have either of those. And the CM dialer / contacts are just better designed and easier to swipe back and forth around, compared to TW dialer. Plus CM is just much smoother.
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As much as I love CM, losing a lot of the S-Pen features is still a no go for me. I've fallen in love with it :(

Then again, my stock, rooted, unlocked, de-odexed rom seems to work just fine, no visible lag of any sort.

You also lose multi-windowing do you not with AOSP?
 
Just gone mine today upgrading from my trusty Thunderbolt after 2 years of faithful service. I love the shirt out of it so far! I got the monstrosity Otter Defender holster for it but Gawdamighty that thing is gianormous so I'm gonna exchange it tomorrow for something else smaller. But yeah this thing is a beaut and if you can live with the size I think it's the best Android phone out right now.
 
Zorachus said:
Some good Touchwiz stock ROM's out there, cleanROM is great. But this week I went to try out some new CM10.1 ROM's, and my god, no way am I going back to Touchwiz. The best is the official CM10.1 Nightlies, rock solid stable, and fantastic battery life, a full day heavy use, and two days light use. Plus it is crazy warp speed smooth fast, way smoother than Touchwiz.

Papyrus is a great Note writing app in the Play Store, works great in CM10.1

With CM10.1 you get true Group messaging and Quick Reply from status bar. Touchwiz does not have either of those. And the CM dialer / contacts are just better designed and easier to swipe back and forth around, compared to TW dialer. Plus CM is just much smoother.
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From what I've read there are still a few bugs with it. Like the bluetooth audio is borked. I'll wait until it's 100% working before I try it.
 
Has anyone tried using Google Now voice search while connected to a BT device? It seems like every time I try to voice search something with my phone connected to my car or my BT Headphones, it consistently sits at "initializing" until it times out, then I'll try again, it immediately errors (like it tried to listen to me but didn't recognize me), then on the third try it will initialize quickly and allow me to start talking in order to search. It has done this to me on both CleanROM and Beans V7 so far, so I'm wondering if it's a TW ROM issue or something (though I don't know how since Google Now has nothing to do with TW). If I'm not using a BT device though, it works instantly every time.
 
T4rd said:
Has anyone tried using Google Now voice search while connected to a BT device? It seems like every time I try to voice search something with my phone connected to my car or my BT Headphones, it consistently sits at "initializing" until it times out, then I'll try again, it immediately errors (like it tried to listen to me but didn't recognize me), then on the third try it will initialize quickly and allow me to start talking in order to search. It has done this to me on both CleanROM and Beans V7 so far, so I'm wondering if it's a TW ROM issue or something (though I don't know how since Google Now has nothing to do with TW). If I'm not using a BT device though, it works instantly every time.
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Here's the solution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZhxvgou4-4
 
Anyone who has flashed their phones to cleanrom and or other roms able to use their MicroSD as internal storage? Doesn't seem like very many people can get it working as far as I know. My rooted Note 2 has it working perfectly, but I am still on stock NA rom.
 
Michaelius said:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=29801

Nice - Samsung is buying 5% of shares in Wacom.
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I think styluses are a great addition to a 5 inch plus smartphone.

Not so much a sub-5 inch smartphone though.

I really hope styluses become the norm because it can open new areas of innovation and people can do so much more with high tech stylus-touch screen interfaces like online skype tutorials.
 
A stylus is a good addition to any smart phone, they used to ship them on 2 inch smart phones. The thing is when apple came into the scene, as always they sold us less as more and people bought it up. Getting rid of them was about making devices smaller not anything else. If you think about it a stylus becomes more important the smaller the phone is, not the other way around because the smaller screen can be more efficiently used and manipulated with a smaller pointing device than your finger. Samsung is getting this, they are seeing that customers are loving it, the more people use phones the more they want options for productivity and efficiency, real keyboards, stylus etc...
 
Samsung would do nicely if they added Note mini to their portfolio with 4-4,3" screen for people who don't want Note II sized phone.
 
Just added the hotspot tethering to my unlimited plan for 30 a month (~22ish with discounts) since I'll be using it as my main source of internet. Unlike some people (look at those XDA threads about people bragging about how many GBs they use without a hotspot app ugh) I'll gladly pay 30 a month over crap internet that costs me 60 a month :)

Those of you on the grandfathered unlimited plan can add the unlimited tethering just by calling in. Just a FYI :)
 
Michaelius said:
Samsung would do nicely if they added Note mini to their portfolio with 4-4,3" screen for people who don't want Note II sized phone.
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Isn't that basically what the GS3 is? Yeah it's a dual core instead of quad but both have 2GB of RAM and the same stellar camera.
 
soulesschild said:
Just added the hotspot tethering to my unlimited plan for 30 a month (~22ish with discounts) since I'll be using it as my main source of internet. Unlike some people (look at those XDA threads about people bragging about how many GBs they use without a hotspot app ugh) I'll gladly pay 30 a month over crap internet that costs me 60 a month :)

Those of you on the grandfathered unlimited plan can add the unlimited tethering just by calling in. Just a FYI :)
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Why would you do that when you can tether for free with no penalty and no 2GB (or whatever the tethering plan allows for) restriction? You actually use less than 2GBs/month for your home ISP? $60/month for slower speeds and unlimited data than $30/month and 2 GBs of data.
 
T4rd said:
Why would you do that when you can tether for free with no penalty and no 2GB (or whatever the tethering plan allows for) restriction? You actually use less than 2GBs/month for your home ISP? $60/month for slower speeds and unlimited data than $30/month and 2 GBs of data.
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My tethering plan is 4G Unlimited. I already have unlimited data and have had it. I just merely added in the unlimited 4G hotspotting that is available to currently grandfathered unlimited data plan users.

I'm just choosing to obey my contract terms rather than blatantly abuse it unlike some people. ;)(See persons on XDA using like 100-500GB of data per month tethering their xboxes, torrent boxes, etc to it WITHOUT a tethering plan)

Also, the current PDA Net version that I am using does not have the anti-tethering protection enabled for wi-fi (they are currently working on it as I'm told by their support team). Rather be safe than sorry.
 
soulesschild said:
My tethering plan is 4G Unlimited. I already have unlimited data and have had it. I just merely added in the unlimited 4G hotspotting that is available to currently grandfathered unlimited data plan users.

I'm just choosing to obey my contract terms rather than blatantly abuse it unlike some people. ;)(See persons on XDA using like 100-500GB of data per month tethering their xboxes, torrent boxes, etc to it WITHOUT a tethering plan)

Also, the current PDA Net version that I am using does not have the anti-tethering protection enabled for wi-fi (they are currently working on it as I'm told by their support team). Rather be safe than sorry.
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Are you sure the tethering plan is unlimited? I never knew Verizon to offer unlimited tethering/hotspot plans. While they still offered unlimited data phone plans, they only had like 2 or 5GB tethering plans in addition to your unlimited phone data, which were basically the same as their mobile data plans for air cards.

Also, what do you mean by "anti tethering protection?" I have never once seen anyone on Verizon penalized for tethering without the tethering plan either. Even if they did catch you, they would at least warn you first before they took any action.
 
T4rd said:
Are you sure the tethering plan is unlimited? I never knew Verizon to offer unlimited tethering/hotspot plans. While they still offered unlimited data phone plans, they only had like 2 or 5GB tethering plans in addition to your unlimited phone data, which were basically the same as their mobile data plans for air cards.

Also, what do you mean by "anti tethering protection?" I have never once seen anyone on Verizon penalized for tethering without the tethering plan either. Even if they did catch you, they would at least warn you first before they took any action.
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It is indeed unlimited. It is not advertised, you just need to call and ask ;) See here,

http://androidforums.com/verizon/64...ted-wifi-hotspot-grandfathered-users-why.html


PDANet has an anti-tethering protection when you use the USB tethering option. Basically, reroutes all the data from a phone through a proxy/vpn sort of setup so that the application basically just looks like it's doing something like browsing. Without such protection, carriers can very easily see if you are tethering or not.

See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893424 for examples of carrier tethering detection

Some basic theories,
1) Done by packet inspection, phone browser and normal PC browsing packets look differently, I forget the exact part but I remember reading it and verified it myself
2) User agent, easily combated but some have said that companies that check this way (T-Mobile) have patched the fix.

Of course you can avoid all this by fancy use of VPN/Proxying yourself, but PDANet themselves handled it within their app. But since they bundled in FoxFi with it recently, their wi-fi anti tethering protection has not worked. I've gone back and forth with their support and they know it's a bug and are working on it. It's just a friendly heads up to people on carriers that do check (ATT/T-Mobile)

Also, yes so far nobody at VZW has ever gotten a warning or hammered at for "illegal" tethering, but I'd rather pay the money now than pay the piper later (either VZW canning the account or removing the unlimited tethering option later on, and then enforcing)


Also, here is what the 4G tethering description looks like

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Now if it shares your data allowance...and my allowance is unlimited.... ;) Also confirmed via VZW reps on the phone.
 
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Intradasting. Thanks for the info. I only occasionally tether while I'm away for business trips and to test VPN connections on laptops at work and rarely go over 3-4 GBs on my line. If I can get LTE at my house anytime soon, I'll actually drop my home ISP for a month or two so I can get back on their introductory rate ($40/month vs $70 for 20/1.5 service). I might add that tethering plan on my account just to stay on the safe side while I'm doing it.
 
T4rd said:
Intradasting. Thanks for the info. I only occasionally tether while I'm away for business trips and to test VPN connections on laptops at work and rarely go over 3-4 GBs on my line. If I can get LTE at my house anytime soon, I'll actually drop my home ISP for a month or two so I can get back on their introductory rate ($40/month vs $70 for 20/1.5 service). I might add that tethering plan on my account just to stay on the safe side while I'm doing it.
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LTE at my place is far greater than the shitty ASDL that's offered up here. One of the main reasons I added it to my plan. 12mbps/5mbps vs less than 1mbps down for only 30 dollars? Sign me the fuck up!
 
Michaelius said:
Samsung would do nicely if they added Note mini to their portfolio with 4-4,3" screen for people who don't want Note II sized phone.
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4-4.3"? That's actually smaller than the Galaxy S3. That's the Galaxy S2.

I don't know how I would use a stylus on a Galaxy S2.

The Galaxy Note 2 should stay the same size or get bigger. A Galaxy Note Mini is basically a smartphone.
 
I wouldn't mind a 5" screen phone that could use the S pen. Other stylus have to fat of a head for what I want to use it for.
 
ItaliaFerrari said:
The Galaxy S4 is rumored to have an S Pen. A stylus is suitable for any phone over 4.8 inches.
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Wrong, a stylus is more suitable the smaller a phone gets because it allows you to more efficiently use the space. Try taking a note by drawing with your finger on an Iphone, now do it with a stylus, see its easier, more accurate
 
Dapperdan said:
Where did you see that rumor?
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http://www.enuri.com/knowbox/List.jsp?kbcate=kb11&kbcode=mc1&kbno=432074

A bunch of places are going off the translation of the above source stating that the Samsung Galaxy S IV will have an S-Pen. We shall see. Same site also states that, as I've said repeatedly, the S IV will come with the Exynos5-quad, and not the Big.Little-based -octa. That chip will be in a shipping device no sooner than fall 2013 (and if that early, tablet/chromebook only).
 
Medion said:
http://www.enuri.com/knowbox/List.jsp?kbcate=kb11&kbcode=mc1&kbno=432074

A bunch of places are going off the translation of the above source stating that the Samsung Galaxy S IV will have an S-Pen. We shall see. Same site also states that, as I've said repeatedly, the S IV will come with the Exynos5-quad, and not the Big.Little-based -octa. That chip will be in a shipping device no sooner than fall 2013 (and if that early, tablet/chromebook only).
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Well the octa core CPU is a bit too much for now. It will be very popular near the end of 2013 or early 2014.

The quad core Cortex-A15 Exynos processor is undefeated in today's market until we see the Apple iPhone 5S coming out with their A6 processor.
 
ItaliaFerrari said:
Well the octa core CPU is a bit too much for now. It will be very popular near the end of 2013 or early 2014.
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No, it's not. For some reason, going off of your previous posts, you seem to think that it functions as a real 8-core processor. It doesn't. The OS can only see a quad-core processor. The chip contains a quad-core A15 and a quad-core A7 on the same die. The chip determines which quad to use based on the OS'es demands so that it can control power consumption.

It offers no performance benefit over a quad-core A15, because that is what it essentially is. It's an A15 with a battery saving mode. However, the die is larger, so we're not going to see it in smartphones until it hits the next lower fabrication process. It's a bit much in size, but not in performance.
 
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