Galaxy Note 2, whose getting one?

The update will auto install unless you disable updates. You can defer it for a couple of days but there is no option to reject it and folks who defer it are reporting it installs anyways. You have to be root (i think) to disable updates.

NOTE TO ALL VZW USERS ON STOCK. DO NOT TAKE THE OTA. I REPEAT, DO NOT TAKE THE OTA. IT WILL BREAK/RELOCK YOUR PHONE.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107738 <- If you took the OTA and are bricked/re-locked.

What worked for me was reflashing the original Root66 image to get back root. Have not tried to unlock as I just bought the N2 yesterday.
 
The update will auto install unless you disable updates. You can defer it for a couple of days but there is no option to reject it and folks who defer it are reporting it installs anyways. You have to be root (i think) to disable updates.

Damn. That is bullshit.
 
Verizon Note 2 here

Updated last night. The update just popped up on me and I accepted it.

No issues with my battery or OS.
 
I got the update prompt a few minutes after midnight and went ahead and did the update.

The phone seems to be working normal so far.
 
The VZW update only breaks if you are on a custom ROM or a custom recovery. If you're still on stock but rooted, you'll be fine to take the update.

For those of you that DO NOT want the update, use Titanium Backup or whatever tool to freeze/uninstall sdm.apk.
 
How is the Note 2 everyday 24/7 ? I am talking size, do you get used to it right away ?

For people new to the large Note series, not owning a Note 1, how is the Note 2 to one hand operate and just use day in day out ? I have owned all three Nexus phones so far, Nexus-One, Nexus-S, Galaxy Nexus, and now the international One X. I have no problem with the Galaxy Nexus and One X size, yeah they are border line hard to reach top of the phone with my thumb in one hand, but have no problem with 4.7" screen whatsoever, could handle larger I think.

I really like what I see in the Note 2 and am looking for a change from my One X, but worried how difficult is it to use with just one hand, or is this a two handed phone mostly ?

Putting in pocket and then pulling out to answer a phone call ? Any issues with the size ? It fits in your normal type jeans or dress pants ?

Or typing up a quick text, can that be done one handed with ease and fast as a smaller Nexus sized phone ?

Thanks
 
you will get used to the size right away and wonder how you ever had a smaller phone.
Fits in pants pockets. One hand use, but not typing for me.
 
you will get used to the size right away and wonder how you ever had a smaller phone.
Fits in pants pockets. One hand use, but not typing for me.

Same here. But I use the Samsung Keyboard so I can still do one-hand typing (it can shift from one side of the screen). It's not as good as Swype, but I've dealt with it since it's the only one-hand keyboard solution for the Note 2.
 
Just got one myself and damn its nice.

The first time I've posted via handwriting.
 
I came from a HTC Thunderbolt to help put things into perspective.

See my comments in red

How is the Note 2 everyday 24/7 ? I am talking size, do you get used to it right away ?

Was a little huge the first couple of hours, now I'm fine. (After about 2 days of use)

For people new to the large Note series, not owning a Note 1, how is the Note 2 to one hand operate and just use day in day out ? I have owned all three Nexus phones so far, Nexus-One, Nexus-S, Galaxy Nexus, and now the international One X. I have no problem with the Galaxy Nexus and One X size, yeah they are border line hard to reach top of the phone with my thumb in one hand, but have no problem with 4.7" screen whatsoever, could handle larger I think.

I love using this thing. It's slightly unwiedly but that's because I have an Otterbox Defender on it. When I had it naked, it wasn't bad at all and I can be considered to have smallish hands. (I'm Asian, 5'6") I don't reach from top to bottom. Most of the time I'm either typing or just scrolling.

I really like what I see in the Note 2 and am looking for a change from my One X, but worried how difficult is it to use with just one hand, or is this a two handed phone mostly ?

Works fine one handed. See above. As T4rd said, you can do a one sided KB but it is kinda crappy ATM. Looking for a better replacement.

Putting in pocket and then pulling out to answer a phone call ? Any issues with the size ? It fits in your normal type jeans or dress pants ?

Fits fine with me even with an otterbox defender. Dress pants/slacks are fine, haven't tried jeans but I imagine it'll be fine. I'll confirm later on tonight.

Or typing up a quick text, can that be done one handed with ease and fast as a smaller Nexus sized phone ?

See above about one handed keyboard.

Thanks
 
Thanks for the comments soulesschild :)

My only beef with the Note 2, is the stock launcher with 4 x 4 grid size, seems ridiculous for such a large screen. But I know different launchers and custom ROM's can easily fix this.

My point being, 4 x 4 or whatever stock is, seems silly for such a large screen. I want it to be like 6 icons wide, x 5 icons tall, that seems to fit a phone like this better. And can't the DPI be altered too ? For a screen this big, I think it needs to be shrunk down, make icons and everything look smaller, would make it look like higher resolution ?
 
I agree the big advantage of a larger screen is fitting more on it. I find it ridiculous when i see people with these iPads that only have a couple incredibly spread out icons on the screen.
 
Thanks for the comments soulesschild :)

My only beef with the Note 2, is the stock launcher with 4 x 4 grid size, seems ridiculous for such a large screen. But I know different launchers and custom ROM's can easily fix this.

My point being, 4 x 4 or whatever stock is, seems silly for such a large screen. I want it to be like 6 icons wide, x 5 icons tall, that seems to fit a phone like this better. And can't the DPI be altered too ? For a screen this big, I think it needs to be shrunk down, make icons and everything look smaller, would make it look like higher resolution ?

I use Nova Launcher, I highly recommend it. I should give TouchWiz a go but I'm so used to it across my different Android devices (TB, N7, OG Droid)
 
I use Nova Launcher, I highly recommend it. I should give TouchWiz a go but I'm so used to it across my different Android devices (TB, N7, OG Droid)

Have you the tried Go Launcher? I use and love cold Fustions (not typo) 3D UI tutorial... but Nova intrigues me... maybe someone will merge the two...
 
Coming from a VZW Galaxy Nexus I find that the Note 2 is refreshing. The battery life is excellent, reception is amazing, and the phone runs much cooler than my old Nexus. The phone is large, but that's the only negative I have and it's not much of a negative. It's a huge positive when watching videos, browsing the web, and taking notes.

I'm glad that I upgraded to the Note 2.
 
Have you the tried Go Launcher? I use and love cold Fustions (not typo) 3D UI tutorial... but Nova intrigues me... maybe someone will merge the two...

I honestly stopped using any GO products after their whole GO SMS fiasco regarding data collection.
 
I use Nova Launcher, I highly recommend it. I should give TouchWiz a go but I'm so used to it across my different Android devices (TB, N7, OG Droid)

Same here. Best thing about using it on the Note 2 is that you can assign a swipe down gesture to bring the notification shade down so you don't have to reach your thumb all the way to the top of the screen when using it with one hand. Adding extra rows of icons/folders to the home screens and app drawer make better use of the screen real estate too.
 
Fits fine in my Levi 514 jeans with otterbox defender. If you wear girly emo jeans I can't help you there. :p
 
I have the otterbox defender on my Note 2 as well and have to say that I really like the case even with its added bulk. It easily fits in my shorts or pants pockets but I usually wear it in the otterbox belt clip.
 
I guess the big warning was about breaking root. My GN2 is stock, un rooted..so.. no worries..
not sure what the OTA patch did.. but it didn't break anything for me..

I love the phone. I did switch from the Sammy KB to Swype.. so.. its is a tad large one handed texting... but.. the positives of the phone far out weigh the negatives.. battery life.. unlike anythig Ive ever had before..the screen size is fantastic for web, vids, etc.
 
Damn....Verizon Note 2 users get screwed....1st they have to deal with that stupid branding on the home key, then an OTA that bricks the phone? way to go Big Red....
 
Damn....Verizon Note 2 users get screwed....1st they have to deal with that stupid branding on the home key, then an OTA that bricks the phone? way to go Big Red....

Fuck Verizon, so happy I left them. That stupid logo on the home button is ridiculous, and big branding all over the device :rolleyes: Plus they are Nazis in controlling locking down their phones. And don't get me started on pricing for plans :eek: Not bad if you on corporate plan, but for individual new plans, they are outrageously priced.
 
Damn....Verizon Note 2 users get screwed....1st they have to deal with that stupid branding on the home key, then an OTA that bricks the phone? way to go Big Red....

It only bricked people that were rooted, and I really don't understand all the whining about the Logo on the home key, the key still works fine and if that's what it takes to save me $300 on the phone then I can deal with a small logo. It doesn't bother me at all, would I prefer for it not to be ther, yes, but it is a very very minor issue in my book.

I would complain about Verizon locking down other features ALOT more than a logo on a key, but if I went to buy a new car and Honda said they would sell me the car for 1/2 price if they put an additional Honda logo on the hood that was relative to the size ratio of the Verizon Home Button Logo to the phone, I would take that deal in a heartbeat.
 
I spoke to a family friend who is an account executive with AT&T on pricing and plans.

I found this strange, he said if I go on contract with AT&T the Note 2 is $299, but even if I buy the phone outright for the full $649, that will not lower my monthly plan, would still be the same he said. I thought the $299 was a subsidized price, you are paying for the phone over the course of the two year plan, so shouldn't buying the phone for full retail price out of contract, give me a lower monthly bill, since I would not be subsidizing the phone ?

He said best plan now for two on a Family / Shared plan is $150, includes; unlimited minutes, unlimited texts, and 4GB data shared.

My guy replied;
Correct the $649 price, you would be month to month, no contract. Taking the subsidy that AT&T offers would lock you into a 2 year contract. But the monthly bill would still be the same @ $150/month. So the only deal you get for buying it out full retail of $649, over $299, is not being in a contract, but still the same monthly bill.

For that, I may as well pay full retail, and just stick with Straight Talk, for two phones is $97.50 / Month. Why go to AT&T for $162/ Month, if paying the same $649 for the phone ? Am I missing something here ? Sure for the $162 I get 4G LTE, and supposedly the real true AT&T network, that he says is much better than ST, but is there truly a difference in network between Straight Talk's ATT sim, vs the real AT&T contract ?
 
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I do not know about at&t but with sprint if you buy sprint (as oppose to virigin mobile) you get free roaming. Of course for sprint that is great as you can roam on verizon; but for at&t the only place to roam is on t-mobile (if they offer it).
 
I spoke to a family friend who is an account executive with AT&T on pricing and plans.

I found this strange, he said if I go on contract with AT&T the Note 2 is $299, but even if I buy the phone outright for the full $649, that will not lower my monthly plan, would still be the same he said. I thought the $299 was a subsidized price, you are paying for the phone over the course of the two year plan, so shouldn't buying the phone for full retail price out of contract, give me a lower monthly bill, since I would not be subsidizing the phone ?

He said best plan now for two on a Family / Shared plan is $150, includes; unlimited minutes, unlimited texts, and 4GB data shared.

My guy replied;
Correct the $649 price, you would be month to month, no contract. Taking the subsidy that AT&T offers would lock you into a 2 year contract. But the monthly bill would still be the same @ $150/month. So the only deal you get for buying it out full retail of $649, over $299, is not being in a contract, but still the same monthly bill.

For that, I may as well pay full retail, and just stick with Straight Talk, for two phones is $97.50 / Month. Why go to AT&T for $162/ Month, if paying the same $649 for the phone ? Am I missing something here ? Sure for the $162 I get 4G LTE, and supposedly the real true AT&T network, that he says is much better than ST, but is there truly a difference in network between Straight Talk's ATT sim, vs the real AT&T contract ?

As you're seeing, there are advantages to buying up front (lower service cost with certain providers) as well as subsidizing (lower up front cost). In many cases, these come close to about even at the 2 year mark so long as you are consistently subsidizing. But if you upgrade at a faster or slower pace than 2 years, the cheaper plan wins out. Some examples:

On T-Mobile, for example, I can get 500 minutes, unlimited text, and unlimited data (2GB at 4G speeds) for $49.99/month if I buy my own device. The same plan from them on a subsidy runs $69.99/month. So, here's the analysis.

Using the iPhone 5 32GB, for example, we can buy it outright for $759, or on subsidy for $299 (Apple's price, would be the same with TMO).

Outright: $749 + ($49.99*24) = $1,948.76
Subsidy: $299 + ($69.99*24) = $1,978.76

So, where's the benefit? Simple really. With the iPhone, there wouldn't be much of one, but with Android devices, it's a different matter. You have the option to buy a global device that doesn't have carrier bloatware, gets faster updates, and more updates. So what happens if you don't want to upgrade at exactly 2 years? What then?

It depends on how often you upgrade. If annually, the math stays the same. You just add one full-cost phone per year, so the difference is still $30 every 2 years. If you upgrade slower than once every two years, that's where the savings comes in. For every month you don't upgrade, the up-front plan saves you $20.

So why is this relevant for AT&T? Because, AT&T (and your friend should have told you this) does the same thing, just under the table. All phones have an IMEI number. All phones of the same model belong to an IMEI series. And, due to limitations, some phones share a similar IMEI series (IE, Blackberry Curve and white Galaxy S II GT-i9100). If AT&T has your IMEI series loaded into their database, then they know what phone you are using the minute you load a sim card. If they do not have the IMEI series loaded, then they do not know that it's a smartphone. This means you qualify for MediaNet.

So when you sign up for AT&T, let's say that you want the cheapest option;
450 minutes for $39.99
unlimited texts for $20
Data is 3GB for $30

Total is $89.99

MediaNet is $15/mo, or $10/mo if you chose unlimited text. So, going with that option nets you;

450 minutes for $39.99
unlimited texts for $20
Data is unlimited, with no tethering/hotspot restrictions, for $10

Total is $69.99. In this case, the $20/mo savings and the T-Mobile math above still applies.

Are there any fallbacks to using MediaNet on a smartphone? Yes. AT&T can take it away at anytime. It's technically against their TOS. However, they don't push it, because that $480 you save every 2 years is given back to them by; A) not subsidizing your phone purchases, and B) not having to provide warranty support for YOUR phone. I used 82GB last month, and at least 30GB in each of the three preceding months. This will be my first month under 30GB due to having home internet set up. They honestly do NOT care.

Your friend should have told you about this. Still, I recommend T-Mobile if they have good service in your area. that $49.99 plan I mentioned can have the 2GB limitation removed if you pay $59.99 instead. That's another $10/mo cheaper, but is also sanctioned. No worries over them taking it away, as AT&T has done in very rare cases (mainly Nexus phones).
 
I think T-Mobile is the only major carrier that doesn't force you into the same contract pricing regardless of whether or not you buy a subsidized phone from them or not. So if you're looking at a post paid carrier and want to bring your own phone, AT&T/Verizon/Sprint doesn't cut you any sort of deal and don't make much sense to use (post paid anyways).

I do not know about at&t but with sprint if you buy sprint (as oppose to virigin mobile) you get free roaming. Of course for sprint that is great as you can roam on verizon; but for at&t the only place to roam is on t-mobile (if they offer it).

Yeah, Sprint roams on Verizon, but if you use over 300 MBs/month while roaming on Verizon's towers, then they will most likely cancel your contract/service (it's in their terms of service). Some people exploit this by loading a custom PRL onto their phone in order to force it onto Verizon's towers so they can get out of contract early without an ETF.
 
As you're seeing, there are advantages to buying up front (lower service cost with certain providers) as well as subsidizing (lower up front cost). In many cases, these come close to about even at the 2 year mark so long as you are consistently subsidizing. But if you upgrade at a faster or slower pace than 2 years, the cheaper plan wins out. Some examples:

On T-Mobile, for example, I can get 500 minutes, unlimited text, and unlimited data (2GB at 4G speeds) for $49.99/month if I buy my own device. The same plan from them on a subsidy runs $69.99/month. So, here's the analysis.

Using the iPhone 5 32GB, for example, we can buy it outright for $759, or on subsidy for $299 (Apple's price, would be the same with TMO).

Outright: $749 + ($49.99*24) = $1,948.76
Subsidy: $299 + ($69.99*24) = $1,978.76

So, where's the benefit? Simple really. With the iPhone, there wouldn't be much of one, but with Android devices, it's a different matter. You have the option to buy a global device that doesn't have carrier bloatware, gets faster updates, and more updates. So what happens if you don't want to upgrade at exactly 2 years? What then?

It depends on how often you upgrade. If annually, the math stays the same. You just add one full-cost phone per year, so the difference is still $30 every 2 years. If you upgrade slower than once every two years, that's where the savings comes in. For every month you don't upgrade, the up-front plan saves you $20.

So why is this relevant for AT&T? Because, AT&T (and your friend should have told you this) does the same thing, just under the table. All phones have an IMEI number. All phones of the same model belong to an IMEI series. And, due to limitations, some phones share a similar IMEI series (IE, Blackberry Curve and white Galaxy S II GT-i9100). If AT&T has your IMEI series loaded into their database, then they know what phone you are using the minute you load a sim card. If they do not have the IMEI series loaded, then they do not know that it's a smartphone. This means you qualify for MediaNet.

So when you sign up for AT&T, let's say that you want the cheapest option;
450 minutes for $39.99
unlimited texts for $20
Data is 3GB for $30

Total is $89.99

MediaNet is $15/mo, or $10/mo if you chose unlimited text. So, going with that option nets you;

450 minutes for $39.99
unlimited texts for $20
Data is unlimited, with no tethering/hotspot restrictions, for $10

Total is $69.99. In this case, the $20/mo savings and the T-Mobile math above still applies.

Are there any fallbacks to using MediaNet on a smartphone? Yes. AT&T can take it away at anytime. It's technically against their TOS. However, they don't push it, because that $480 you save every 2 years is given back to them by; A) not subsidizing your phone purchases, and B) not having to provide warranty support for YOUR phone. I used 82GB last month, and at least 30GB in each of the three preceding months. This will be my first month under 30GB due to having home internet set up. They honestly do NOT care.

Your friend should have told you about this. Still, I recommend T-Mobile if they have good service in your area. that $49.99 plan I mentioned can have the 2GB limitation removed if you pay $59.99 instead. That's another $10/mo cheaper, but is also sanctioned. No worries over them taking it away, as AT&T has done in very rare cases (mainly Nexus phones).

Thanks Med,

But in my case, those plans do not work for me. My Wife and I need Unlimited minutes and unlimited texts. We use our smartphones, for phone calls too, which seems unheard today to some people, to me a smartphone is a phone #1 most importantly.

For business during the workday, I use maybe 2000+ minutes a month, my Wife uses 1000 minutes during the weekdays month.

So on Straight Talk for two people it is $97/Month unlimited x 24 months = $2,328, plus buying the Note II off contract @ $649 x 2 phones = $1,298. Grand Total = $3,626 over two years

On AT&T, best unlimited plan for two people w/tax is $162/ month x 24 months = $3,888, plus buying two Note 2's subsidized @ $299 x 2 = $598. Grand Total = $4,486 over two years.

Straight Talk, plus paying full price for the smartphone is a HUGE savings, over the course of 24 months, almost $1,000 cheaper. The upfront cost buying the Note 2 full retail is the biggest hit, but then saving almost $70/Month is a big deal x 24 months. Is LTE and true AT&T service worth that extra cost over Straight Talk ATT SIM ?
 
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There were other T-Mobile plans as well, I only mentioned specific ones. Let's compare the unlimited plans to Straight talk. In this case, I'm going to be assuming two lines.

T-Mobile:
unlimited minutes/text/data (2GB at 4G speeds): $99.98
corporate discounts available, mine being 15% (brings it down to $84.98). See if you're eligible.

Straight Talk:
unlimited minutes/text/data subject to their "fair usage": $90
Can pre-purchase for a year for savings that brings it to an average of $82.50.

-Beyond that, ST gives you choice of AT&T or T-Mobile sim. Supposedly you can roam on either of those two networks as ST has bought time from both. But, you cannot roam on other carriers, and after driving through Wyoming, trust me, THAT MATTERS. On T-Mobile proper, you get all of their active roaming agreements.

-On Straight Talk, you're on an MVNO, which means you're a second class citizen on congested towers. Not true if on T-Mobile.

-T-Mobile is going to do LTE on 1700mhz, as will AT&T. Expect cross phone compatibility sooner than later. I'd be shocked if the TMO iPhone doesn't support LTE.

-And lastly, you get real customer service, something that T-Mobile is better known for.

So with that said, if T-Mobile offers service in your area comparable to AT&T, or you were considering getting the TMO sim on ST anyway, I'd pay the extra money for them. I have the AT&T MediaNet plan and we're switching to T-Mobile anyway. Currently paying for 550 minutes, unlimited text, and unlimited data (iPhone 4S, SGS2), and it's $125/mo after taxes/discount. The TMO plan we want (1k mins, unli txt, unlim data 2GB at 4G speeds) is $77/mo after taxes/fees/discounts.
 
There were other T-Mobile plans as well, I only mentioned specific ones. Let's compare the unlimited plans to Straight talk. In this case, I'm going to be assuming two lines.

T-Mobile:
unlimited minutes/text/data (2GB at 4G speeds): $99.98
corporate discounts available, mine being 15% (brings it down to $84.98). See if you're eligible.

Straight Talk:
unlimited minutes/text/data subject to their "fair usage": $90
Can pre-purchase for a year for savings that brings it to an average of $82.50.

-Beyond that, ST gives you choice of AT&T or T-Mobile sim. Supposedly you can roam on either of those two networks as ST has bought time from both. But, you cannot roam on other carriers, and after driving through Wyoming, trust me, THAT MATTERS. On T-Mobile proper, you get all of their active roaming agreements.

-On Straight Talk, you're on an MVNO, which means you're a second class citizen on congested towers. Not true if on T-Mobile.

-T-Mobile is going to do LTE on 1700mhz, as will AT&T. Expect cross phone compatibility sooner than later. I'd be shocked if the TMO iPhone doesn't support LTE.

-And lastly, you get real customer service, something that T-Mobile is better known for.

So with that said, if T-Mobile offers service in your area comparable to AT&T, or you were considering getting the TMO sim on ST anyway, I'd pay the extra money for them. I have the AT&T MediaNet plan and we're switching to T-Mobile anyway. Currently paying for 550 minutes, unlimited text, and unlimited data (iPhone 4S, SGS2), and it's $125/mo after taxes/discount. The TMO plan we want (1k mins, unli txt, unlim data 2GB at 4G speeds) is $77/mo after taxes/fees/discounts.

I called T-Mobile, they said best family / shared plan for unlimited is $119/Month, and the Note 2 is $299, but for each phone at that price, it's an additional $20/month for subsidizing the cost of the phone, so for two Note 2's, would be $40 extra per month if we buy them at $299 ea. So the total monthly bill would be $160 or so, coming out the same as AT&T.

Where T-Mobile is better an different than AT&T, you can buy the Note 2 outright for the $649 price, and get the monthly plan for only $119/Month. With ATT they were crazy saying buying the Note 2 in full for $649, the plan would still be the same $160/Month, which makes no sense.

At this point, I still think best buy the phone outright for $649, and either stick with Straight Talk ATT Sim for $90/Month on two phones, or buy it outright from T-Mobile, and go on their $119/Month plan.
 
I called T-Mobile, they said best family / shared plan for unlimited is $119/Month, and the Note 2 is $299, but for each phone at that price, it's an additional $20/month for subsidizing the cost of the phone, so for two Note 2's, would be $40 extra per month if we buy them at $299 ea. So the total monthly bill would be $160 or so, coming out the same as AT&T.

Where T-Mobile is better an different than AT&T, you can buy the Note 2 outright for the $649 price, and get the monthly plan for only $119/Month. With ATT they were crazy saying buying the Note 2 in full for $649, the plan would still be the same $160/Month, which makes no sense.

At this point, I still think best buy the phone outright for $649, and either stick with Straight Talk ATT Sim for $90/Month on two phones, or buy it outright from T-Mobile, and go on their $119/Month plan.

Did you not look at the plan that I pointed out? It's a real plan.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx

The $119 is unlimited everything, to include unthrottled data. The $99 plan I linked is also unlimited everything, but data speeds throttled after 2GB per line...same as Straight Talk. Slightly more expensive, but service is better, data is faster, you have real roaming support, and it will support LTE this year.
 
Did you not look at the plan that I pointed out? It's a real plan.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx

The $119 is unlimited everything, to include unthrottled data. The $99 plan I linked is also unlimited everything, but data speeds throttled after 2GB per line...same as Straight Talk. Slightly more expensive, but service is better, data is faster, you have real roaming support, and it will support LTE this year.

Can not find that specific plan here
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/family-plans.aspx

Oh ok, I see it now. Is that still a 2 year contract plan ? And with this $99 plan, I have to buy the Note 2 for full retail ?
 
Can not find that specific plan here
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/family-plans.aspx

Oh ok, I see it now. Is that still a 2 year contract plan ?

It's technically a contract as they're trying to eliminate churn. However, the price is based on you bringing/buying your own device. Again, see if you qualify for any corporate discounts, as that brings the price down. Unlike ST, these plans are eligible for those discounts.

Like I said, it does still cost a few bucks more. It's up to you to weigh the pros/cons of each plan, if the extra features of this plan offset the cost for you. But as long as you're actually aware of the plan, I've done my part :)
 
It's technically a contract as they're trying to eliminate churn. However, the price is based on you bringing/buying your own device. Again, see if you qualify for any corporate discounts, as that brings the price down. Unlike ST, these plans are eligible for those discounts.

Like I said, it does still cost a few bucks more. It's up to you to weigh the pros/cons of each plan, if the extra features of this plan offset the cost for you. But as long as you're actually aware of the plan, I've done my part :)

Thanks a lot for your input
 
Have you considered sprint, while not the fastest speed everything is pretty much unlimited. Even though they have minutes limits they are not real minutes, they dont count during the nights and weekends which is anything not 7-7 M-F, and they also do not count against any other mobile phone number, even on other providers. So the question is do you actually call land lines during the day more than 1500 minutes per month lol?

Also if you run a business or anything try to negotiate a discount. After everything people on my family plan pay less than $60/ month, that includes 2 airaves, insurance and everything.
 
Have you considered sprint, while not the fastest speed everything is pretty much unlimited. Even though they have minutes limits they are not real minutes, they dont count during the nights and weekends which is anything not 7-7 M-F, and they also do not count against any other mobile phone number, even on other providers. So the question is do you actually call land lines during the day more than 1500 minutes per month lol?

Also if you run a business or anything try to negotiate a discount. After everything people on my family plan pay less than $60/ month, that includes 2 airaves, insurance and everything.

I ran away from Sprint back in 2011. Two years my Wife and I on their network, worst ever. Slowest speeds, spotty connection, pricing just ok, not great, not bad. Never again, thanks
 
Don't forget to get an otterbox. A few days after I got one, my friend dropped his note 2 and cracked the screen. I told him to get one too, but he told me he didn't like white (which was on sale).
 
Damn....Verizon Note 2 users get screwed....1st they have to deal with that stupid branding on the home key, then an OTA that bricks the phone? way to go Big Red....

I got a Verizon Note 2 and got one of those stickers that match the phone to put over the button, lol. I also unlocked the bootloader and flashed CleanROM to it so it's just like the International Note 2 :cool:. I loved it when I had to use the "F-You Verizon) Odin file to unlock the bootloader, since that's exactly what I was thinking while I did it, lol.

I also stick it to them as much as I can on data since I'm still on unlimited data with it. I took a business trip this month and used over 10 GBs tethering my laptop. Not a whole lot, but that would be like $100+ for the data plan alone on their new shitty data plans. I'm milking it for all it's worth, hah.

It only bricked people that were rooted, and I really don't understand all the whining about the Logo on the home key, the key still works fine and if that's what it takes to save me $300 on the phone then I can deal with a small logo. It doesn't bother me at all, would I prefer for it not to be ther, yes, but it is a very very minor issue in my book.

I would complain about Verizon locking down other features ALOT more than a logo on a key, but if I went to buy a new car and Honda said they would sell me the car for 1/2 price if they put an additional Honda logo on the hood that was relative to the size ratio of the Verizon Home Button Logo to the phone, I would take that deal in a heartbeat.

I agree. But to complete your anaolgy, every other car dealer has that same Honda without the logo and at the same price, so it's still garbage, heh. You can get the Note 2 on AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile for the same price as Verizon (or less depending on where you get it) without that horrible branding.
 
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