Sony Xperia Z

Im just in love with the fact that its waterproof, why is it so hard for everyone else to make their phones waterproof?
 
Water proofing is nice. But I think I like the ZL better because it's shorter and narrower, but still has the same size of screen. And I'd prefer the plastic matte back over the glass back on the Z.

Though I won't be getting one since I have my Nexus 4.
 
I think the ZL can take the SD card upto 64 gigs while the Z is upto 32. Id love to get the ZL but I want to get my phone soon so I think Im going Note 2, plus I really want the fine point stylus of the note 2. I like the nexus 4 but hate the limited drive size.
 
I love everything about the Z except the CPU. As I've said before, it's an outstanding CPU for mobile applications, but I tend to do things with my devices that the average (or even the average hardcore) user doesn't do. With XBMC 12 coming even closer to final, I'll want a quad-core A15 (as I had originally planned) and nothing less.

So phones like the DNA/M7, Nexus 4, Xperia Z/ZL, etc., just don't cut it for me. I wish Sony would have had their own Novathor A9600 ready to go. Despite being "only" dual-core, it would have been more than adequate for my needs.
 
I think the ZL can take the SD card upto 64 gigs while the Z is upto 32. Id love to get the ZL but I want to get my phone soon so I think Im going Note 2, plus I really want the fine point stylus of the note 2. I like the nexus 4 but hate the limited drive size.

I hope that is a mistake in the specs list. Lenovo's upcoming Lynx tablet says it also only supports micro SD cards up to 32GB. And I just can't even imagine these companies would still not be supporting at least 64GB micro SD cards on new hardware in 2013.
 
I won't be getting one for a few reasons;

1. I love my Note 2 and can't see this being any better realistically (for my uses anyways).

2. It probably won't make it to the U.S. and if it does, it will probably only be on AT&T with different specs/aesthetics.

3. Ties into #2; I'm on Verizon and plan to be as long as I can keep unlimited data (like I did recently upgrading to the Note 2).

Having said that, if the phone was available to me and I had the opportunity and need for a new phone, it would probably be near the top of my list. But by the time it gets to the states (if it makes it) the GS4 will already be nearby and probably have a bit more going for it.
 
Let's hope they get any problems related with the 32gb micro sd cards fixed as there are still lots of phones out there that can't take class 10 32gb microSD cards properly without gallery glitches.

What really is interesting is the display resolution and pixels per inch making it one of the first few phones to boot with 1080p resolution and a very high ppi. Hopefully Sony doesn't bloat up the phone with bloatware like they did with their other older line of Xperia phones. I was going to get the Note 2, but after using the Note 2 and S3 for about a week I really don't like the amoled display, the colours just don't look natural and the screen brightness is dim compared to the qHD display of my A2 on the same brightness scale. Not to mention the N2 is freaking massive, the rumoured S4 will be about 4.9 inchs and the Note 3 will be 6 inches +.

If phones really go down this trend of having bigger screens I think it will be a matter of time we'll be revisiting the 1980's era of having phones the size of briefcases etc or using 10inch tablets for that matter.
 
It is indeed it looks very clean, either way I've pre-ordered the Z on an online phone distributor here now all I have to do is wait till March comes.
 
Alternatives? Well there's the whole next generation thing ahead of us with the Tegra 4/Exynos 5/Qualcomm 800. But honestly owning the Note 2 now I personally can't imagine owning anything else (or rather nothing excites me) - but that's another story.

We now know that phones housing the S4 Pro tend to have sub par battery life, so the XZ might possibly be very well the same. The DNA has the exact same processor with the identical 5 inch 1080p display, and it ranks among the lowest in battery life tests. Whether or not the XZ will use the same panel I'm not sure, but I'm sure the differences in power consumption is negligible.

Tl;dr: bad battery life.
 
Im just in love with the fact that its waterproof, why is it so hard for everyone else to make their phones waterproof?

Because you have to cover up all of the ports (headphone, charger, sd). You also can't change the battery in this case. The up side is with all the ports cover the phone looks pretty sleek.

I'm tempted to get one. We'll see how much it cost though.
 
This is easily one of my favorite designs yet for an android smartphone. If this has an out of the box battery life equal or better than my iPhone 5 then I might go back to android.
 
would be more interested if this was a larger display ~5.5+ inches but so far I'm pleased with sony's direction as they need a homerun.
 
would be more interested if this was a larger display ~5.5+ inches but so far I'm pleased with sony's direction as they need a homerun.

5.5 + inches? Do guys like phones to be the size of your Johnson? The Note 3 will be around 6inch + when it comes out, the Huawei Ascend Mate is about 6.1 inches, it look's like the Xperia Z but with the SGSIII white and rounded edges.
 
I think it is a pretty decent effort by Sony and looks good. Some specs are not cutting edge, but its all about the expereince really.

I personally would opt for the ZL with the smaller footprint and same screen size but foregoing the water/dust resistance. I hate flaps on phones and honestly dont know that I would trust them anyway. Granted it could save my butt in an accident type situation, but the smaller size is still attractive to me.

The size on these is pretty substantial though, I think last I looked both the Z and smaller ZL were larger than the already decently sized Nexus 4.
 
The N4 is what 4.7inches?

I know the ZL is cheaper but I didn't know it was cheaper due to the lack of the water-resistant feature the Z has.
 
These look great, I hope the camera is great too. However I would never up a non nexus device again
 
These look great, I hope the camera is great too. However I would never up a non nexus device again

This is a great point. I currently have an iPhone and the update frequency has been great considering my previous phones of the Windows Mobile variety with zero support/updates ever. Okay, there was this one time, but....

Looking around the Android ecosystem it seems updates roll out rather slowly and with limited frequency. I think that would encourage manufacturers and carriers to get their act together. Google would like it as well. I am kind of in the same vein of thinking if I jump ship to Android. Nexus or bust, just for the updates.
 
This is a great point. I currently have an iPhone and the update frequency has been great considering my previous phones of the Windows Mobile variety with zero support/updates ever. Okay, there was this one time, but....

Looking around the Android ecosystem it seems updates roll out rather slowly and with limited frequency. I think that would encourage manufacturers and carriers to get their act together. Google would like it as well. I am kind of in the same vein of thinking if I jump ship to Android. Nexus or bust, just for the updates.

Never get anything on Verizon because they are slow as molasses to update and I am talking about the nexus devices too.
 
Or you can get it rooted and drop any of the latest custom ROM's for the Nexus from XDA, that's the only point I see of getting any Nexus phone since it is sort of a development phone from Google but manufactured through LG now. Spec's and features wise (besides software) the Nexus never offered anything stellar or features that made it stand out amongst other android phones in the market.
 
You can say the same about AT&T as well.



That's a rather enormous caveat. Might as well say, "Besides anything that could possibly run counter to my argument."

It's true though, the Nexus phone wasn't about showcasing the latest hardware or extra external features, the Nexus was and is used for showcasing the latest Android OS platform and other new software features it brings. Pushing hardware performance wise has always been thanks to Samsung's Galaxy line and before it; HTC and Motorola.
 
Or you can get it rooted and drop any of the latest custom ROM's for the Nexus from XDA, that's the only point I see of getting any Nexus phone since it is sort of a development phone from Google but manufactured through LG now. Spec's and features wise (besides software) the Nexus never offered anything stellar or features that made it stand out amongst other android phones in the market.

nexus was always a new high end device with innovating features (ahead of the android curve) but not really anymore.

It did innovate hardware as well and Motorola never made a nexus.
 
nexus was always a new high end device with innovating features (ahead of the android curve) but not really anymore.

Yeh it was a high end device but compared to what other phones? The only thing outstanding about the original Nexus was that it came supplied with GB when all other phones were still on Froyo 2.2 or Eclair 2.1. That was all. Specs wise it was same as some of the newer HTC and Motorola offerings at the time.
 
nexus was always a new high end device with innovating features (ahead of the android curve) but not really anymore.

It did innovate hardware as well and Motorola never made a nexus.

Always?

Nexus One - first Android device to use Snapdragon S1, which became the standard SOC in Android devices for most of the year. Definitely ahead of the curve at its time.

Nexus S - came out in the same calendar year as the N1, and the Hummingbird (since renamed Exynos3) was actually SLOWER than the Snapdragon S1 in CPU related tasks by about 5%, but had a much faster GPU. Dual-core SOCS were out within months of the Nexus S.

Galaxy Nexus - In 2011, dual-core Cortex A9 was the big thing. So what did Google do? Wait until the end of the year to release a dual-core Cortex A9...right before the quad-core variants came out.

Nexus 4 - For the first time since the Nexus One, a Nexus device would be used to usher in a new SOC instead of being the last device to use it. While there will be faster SOCs than S4 Pro throughout 2013, none will be significantly faster. The next major speed bump is a year or so away.

The Nexus has always been about software, not hardware. Two of the four Nexus launches have been top of the line, while the other two were end of the line.
 
So this is a T-Mobile exclusive. Anyone biting? I know its a bit of an older phone, but I want one. I'm still on AT&T until Oct though.
 
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