Dell U2713HM

I just got my replacement monitor today. This one with an October build date. The crosshatching is still there, but less noticeable at a normal distance. Brightness uniformity is better overall. It has a little more backlight bleed, but I don't notice it (even as I'm typing this in the dark). Also, the Wikipedia buzz is significantly reduced -- I can't hear it unless I put my ear to the back of the monitor. I guess I'll keep this one. Maybe by the time A01 roles around I can convince Dell to replace it. Otherwise, I'm happy enough with this one.
 
Well, I've had my U2713HM for about a week now, and I've been nothing but happy with it. The general color of it is what I've come to expect from an IPS display with the ting of green. But being as my 2x U2311 had the same issue I only notice it when seeing bright white web sites or word.

As the rig in the sig suggest. I'm a gamer and use this display for such. I've been mainly playing MechWarrior Online, Crysis 2, Minecraft and Battlefield 3 of late. I notice no ghosting that I had in the U2311 displays, even then it was extremely minor and rare. I can not judge this "monitor lag" people talk about because well I don't have the equipment to test it and I'm not good enough at the games to have to worry about my aim over 1 frame. Nope I am too stunned at how damn good shit looks at 2560x1440 res with all the eye candy on.

My only grumble about the display is I was expecting a nice matt finish on the display with the AG coat. It's a bit more glossy looking then I was expecting, that said. the AG coat is flawless (Very even coat, no orange pill effect) Being that I normally game in a lower indirect light setting it's not been and issue or likely to ever be.

I have the monitor connected as the primary display using Display Port to a GTX 680
 
I'm ready to buy another one of these and recycle my U2312hm's.

Anyone see any good sales? Got the first one for $550.
 
Lurker here, lol.

Got the U2713HM yesterday, I am very pleased. I still cannot tell what this crosshatching is but it is definitely not visible to my eye, at the least. I also can't make out the wikipedia buzz (my computer fans are already more noisy, if anything)

Overall I was prepared to live with the minor complaints about the crosshatching, buzzing, backlight bleed, etc. etc. but when I got this monitor there was little to none of that. Anyone who is on the fence re: buying this monitor because of these defects - just buy it now, as they are non-existent, at least to me.

I received an Oct 2012 build date, Rev A00. This monitor has replaced my trusty S-IPS A04 2007WFP. One thing I can say after coming from that monitor is that the antiglare coating is way better now. I can now see why people were complaining, the 2007WFP was a lot more grainy.
 
Hmm, should I get this one for ~400€ shipping included, used, 30 months warranty left???
For family PC, gaming, movies etc....also PS3.
OR I can get GW2750HM for around 230€ new - more budget friendly option.
 
Wow what difference between the Asus pb278q and this one. I have had three of the Asus monitors and each suffered from back light bleed pretty badly. I sent each one back with the hopes of getting a nice one, it didn't happen. Amazon refused to send me another one and refunded my money even before receiving the monitor back so I could keep it until the new dell showed up(now that's customer service!!!) I received the monitor on 1/11/13 as amazon shipped next day and they paid for it. I now have a monitor that is every thing the first three should have been. All thought not perfect close enough, the best part buy far is how accurate the color is out of the box. I am coming from a Sony fw900 so I'm not easily impressed, if any of you have had the pleasure of owning the Sony you no of which I speak. There is some lag that i notice but i come from a crt back round so its to be expected but there is no noticeable difference between the Dell and the Asus I tried them side buy side in real world situations there is no differance in FPS games between the two. There was all so a noticeable difference side by side in black level at the same lumenance with the nod going to Dell. So if you are on the fence between the two and color and contrast matter to you, do yourself a favor buy the Dell. Again not perfect but a very good monitor if not a excellent one.

Menace
 
Thought I'd post this review here than in a new thread, I upgraded my old Hazro to this and here's my thoughts!

I've had the Hazro HZ24Wi since before release and this week I've retired it by replacing it with the Dell U2713HM to go alongside the U2412M I already have in a dual display setup.

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It was this or the Asus but I felt the extra for the Dell would add a few benefits.
- The same menu system and options.
- The same casing design.
- Panel quality should be similar to the U2412M.

Out of the box the sRGB mode appeared fine but not the same as the U2412M with custom RGB (calibrated). The 2412M has no sRGB mode preset in the colour menu though either. I've now calibrated both again and am pleased that they're almost 1:1 with the U2713HM just a shade brighter. I like to have the luminance below 120cd/m2 so around 90 is my target.

I use Lacie's Blue Eye Pro and these are the results post calibration:

U2412M:
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U2713HM:
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(with the blue RGB slider at 100% there was was still more blue as shown by the graph! I expect this will settle with time though).

The Delta max/average values are excellent, exactly what I've come to expect from these panels. The Blackpoint matches up as well so shadow areas when editing photos on either screen will be consistent.

Lag wise I've noticed the 27" is ever so slightly more delayed than the 24", the 24 is pretty much instant but you only notice it if both are side by side and you move the window across screens, on its own the 27" won't have noticeable lag, if I put a window in the middle of both screens and move it up and down you can see this but I suspect this is in most part down to the difference in resolution as well and that I'm using the 24" in portrait mode (?).

I've not noticed any issues when gaming or with trailing of the mouse cursor. There is some trail but it's not something you notice in normal usage.

Backlight bleed doesn't appear to be a problem. there is the IPS tinge but this is to be expected anyway.

The panel front itself is not glossy but it is glossier than the U2412M.

The LED on the power button on the 27" is white whereas previous screens have been blue (24"). It would have been nice to have a blue LED on the 27" as well. I have noticed when it's in sleep mode the LED pulsates white whereas it just goes orange on the 24".

The U2713HM wobbles more on the stand than the 24" does. The stand is bigger as well.

Is it worth upgrading from a 24" (1920x1200 16:10) to this (2560x1440 16:9)?
If you have the means to do so then I say yes! The extra FOV in games is really nice, having letterbox free movies/TV shows is also a bonus and looks amazing. 1080p content doesn't look pixelated at all and the extra screen estate is really good.


Dark Knight, picture really doesn't do it justice :p
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What I like about it:
- Image sharpness.
- Picture quality.
- Colour accuracy (after claibration although getting it close without a calibrator is possible, I didn't like the factory calibration).
- USB3 hub.
- The menu UI is brilliant, best of any screen I've used and I hope Dell don't change this in future screens!

What I don't like about it:
- The stand, the screen wobbles on it more than the 24" does on its stand. No a problem if you have a solid desk surface though.
- Factory calibration is too bright and feels too warm.
- White power LED is a little bit more of a distraction when working in the dark compared to the soft blue LED on the 24".


Backlight bleed and IPS tinge effect pic/video below.

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Left = U2412M. Right = U2713HM.
There isn't really any bleed to be concerned about, what you do see is the IPS tinge effect (see video below). Dead on it's almost perfect.

If you move around the screen you get the IPS tinge, this is what I meant earlier about people confusing the tinge with backlight bleed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vg9ieVTRUk
 
I got mine a week ago, and I'm pretty happy so far. No dead pixels and no obvious light bleed. The IPS glow is apparent on black, and the overall black level doesn't reach the level of my older S23A750D 120 Hz monitor. That one has some issues with light bleed though. Can't wait till OLED becomes an option.

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I really want a U2713HM, but it's "only" ~1100$ where I live :rolleyes:

Looks to have better AG coating and no pwm, two things that force me to get rid of my U2412M..
 
I just received one of these monitors and immediately noticed 2 things.

1. Cross-hatching, quite feint but definitely there. However, it's very dependent on viewing angle. Head on or looking slighting up it's not visible. Look slight downward at the screen and it's obvious to my eye.

2. Image retention, I had a white document up for a while as I was editing it. I then threw up a program with a dark background and the outlines/text blocks were clearly visible and then fade over time, quite a long time though (tens of minutes not a few).

Item 1 I can live with. Item 2, is this something that will get better or am I SOL and now stuck in the swap out cycle?
 
I've heard people complain about the monitor "BUZZING" when displaying certain colors/images.

Has anyone noticed this with the Dell 27" or Dell 24" IPS models? I'm looking to upgrade my Gateway monitor here soon.

I can't stand high-pitched buzzing/ringing, my ears must be extra sensitive.
 
I use several dell screens (including the 2713HM and u3011) , neither have buzzing.
 
Syphon Filter said:
I just received one of these monitors and immediately noticed 2 things.

1. Cross-hatching, quite feint but definitely there. However, it's very dependent on viewing angle. Head on or looking slighting up it's not visible. Look slight downward at the screen and it's obvious to my eye.

2. Image retention, I had a white document up for a while as I was editing it. I then threw up a program with a dark background and the outlines/text blocks were clearly visible and then fade over time, quite a long time though (tens of minutes not a few).

Item 1 I can live with. Item 2, is this something that will get better or am I SOL and now stuck in the swap out cycle?
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2 isn't normal. Bad unit perhaps?
 
Syphon Filter said:
How do I attach an image?? It's been a while since I've visited these hallowed grounds...:confused:
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upload your image to any image hosting site.
copy one of given source code for BBS and Forum upload, paste it here.
you also can use insert image button on tool bar of edit box.
 
Cheers. I hope this works:

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Ignore the moire, that's just an artefact of my camera but the retention can clearly be seen.
 
I've received a replacement which is the same :(

Not sure how to proceed. Might just return it for a refund.
 
I don't have this problem. You might want to adjust the brightness that can have a huge impact on image retention in plasmas. Don't know if it will make a difference in this case. But if I had that much IR I would send it back, there are other monitors to chose from.

Menace
 
Isn't there a feature in the osd to fix this? A conditioning setting or someting?
 
I don't seem to have quite that bad retention but I have brightness at minimum.

Missed the 21 day window to return, I thought it was 30 days.

With the extra five year replacement plan, I can keep swapping until they get it right I guess.

Hmm are the advance replacement warranties transferable to other people?
Maybe I will resell it for $600 since people cannot get the discounts anymore.
 
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JimmyN said:
Wow that's bad.. Is that the norm for these monitors?
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My September unit doesn't have any problems with image retention. We've had many posts about it but I would be surprised if it was the norm.

vibe said:
I don't seem to have quite that bad retention but I have brightness at minimum.
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Brightness has nothing to do with that, it's just backlight intensity.
 
I bought mine from Newegg a couple weeks ago and I'm returning it for a refund.

Mine had the usual cross-hatching and "wikipedia buzz".
 
I don't blame those of you returning PC monitors that buzz. I tolerate plasma buzz from my pro-101fd plasma TV, but I would never put up with that noise coming from something that sits roughly two or three feet from my ears. I suppose I will just hold on to my U2312 for a while longer, and live without the extra display real estate of the U2713. :(
 
Dell really needs to get their QA in order. As with others, I noticed my monitor has crosshatching. This was not big issue for me, but then I realized the USB 3.0 ports (which I use a lot) were VERY flaky. So I called Dell and they sent a replacement ... which does not power on at all.

So here's my experience thus far.

1. Order 2412HM from Amazon - works, but clearly has a loose part (screw?) rattling around in it. Decide to return and upgrade to the 2713HM.
2. Order 2713HM from Dell - crosshatching and extremely flaky USB 3.0 ports. Get a replacement. I'm right at my 30 day limit so I had to push a bit to get a new replacement, not a refurbished one.
3. Replacement does not power on - suspect power switch is busted as it feels funky.
4. Contacted technical support...new one on the way.

At least Dell SMB support doesn't waste time like the Dell Home does. If it had been Dell Home I would have wasted 2 hours making sure my power cable was connected properly.
 
Got one for $629. For some reason I could only actually get to the PayPal payment page from Dell's site in Firefox. :\

I only paid with PayPal because last time I tried to order one they kept insta-declining all of my cards for no reason. I even called up my credit union and they said they didn't decline anything or block payments.
 
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They are already swapping out refurbished U2713HM? Where did they even get refurbished, it's only existed for six months.

Well I suspect in five years they won't even have refurbished units to swap out, so I'll end up with another model then.

My only real problem with this monitor apparently is not the monitor itself, I just do not like IPS glow.

For all the extended viewing range IPS is supposed to have, it's kind of useless when there is so much glow at those angles.
 
vibe said:
They are already swapping out refurbished U2713HM? Where did they even get refurbished, it's only existed for six months.
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monitors that get returned for whatever reason are inspected and repaired if necessary, and become refurbs. dell's probably sold thousands of these over six months; factor that in with their generous return policy, and it's not too difficult to imagine that they have a fairly sizeable refurb inventory.
 
I got my 2713HM this weekend and so far it's great. It's a A00 built in Nov 2012. No cross-hatching or "wikipedia buzz" so far. I'm impressed, ordered last week at $579 from Dell.
 
Is there any proof that increasing refresh rate might help with the after-image problem?

I mean these don't have phosphorus so it has to be an electronics problem.

I cannot quite figure out how to make a 70hz refresh rate in XP though, I've tried a couple of tools and it never shows me the option in display properties.. I really do not want to run the full catalyst utility because of it's bloat.
 
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