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I'm glad to see Tribes is still remembered. It is my favorite game of all time. But no Half Life? That's just wrong.
 
You know, today I played some Quake I & II and I admit, even though I didn't really play these when they came out, I really do like the "Just put you in the middle and let you free to explore/kill" thing going on. It gets so annoying with newer games how you have to sit through a stupid tutorial and then wait for some cutscenes and whatnot. I think it's funny how people today are accused of ADHD so they need fast paced games like COD, yet old school games like Quake offer plenty fast-paced action.

Did you try online? i tried q2 about 6 months ago, its still amazingly fun once you get past the graphics. Quake 1 i did like 2 years ago, another really fun game, though the rocket launcher in that game was a little overpowered. Quakelive is similar to original quake 3 which arguably has some of the best balanced multiplayer out of the series, though it played quite a bit different than quake 2 and to a lesser degree quake 1.
 
I'm glad to see Tribes is still remembered. It is my favorite game of all time. But no Half Life? That's just wrong.

the whole list is wrong minus a couple games on there..

top 10 for me would be:

1. quake(personally liked quake 3 arena the most)
2. UT
3. original tribes
4. battlefield 1942
5. Half-life 1
6. Team Fortress Classic(TF2 might be good but doesn't deserve to be on any top 10 list since its just a bastardized update of TFC)
7. Return To Castle Wolfenstein (this includes the free expansion RTCW:ET)
8. CS 1.5(only version where the AWP wasn't a 1 shot kill by shooting some one in the foot)
9. COD4(hate the game personally but it had a big role in changing modern FPS's be it for the worst or the best depending on how you look at it)
10. halo 2(mostly for being the first xbox live multiplayer halo game in the series otherwise i'd say halo 1, yes halo 3 was more refined but it was just the same crap as 1 and 2 anyways)

i'm sure not everyone would agree on my top 10 list but the one from gametrailers is just dumb wrong. my guess they aren't old enough to remember half these games.
 
I've never even played Quake, but I think it's the first game to have the modern "WASD-mouse" controls, and I heard that the game designers didn't even intend for it to have it, but players invented it. Also, I recently played Duke Nukem 3D, and I was able to give it "modern FPS" controls, though as far as I'm aware, no one at the time did that. So those games could be on an "innovative FPS list."

Also, the list needs moar FEAR, Stalker, and Deus Ex.
 

Don't get mad.
It's obvious you've never played Tribes. Tribes was huge back in 1998-2000 and was the first squad based multiplayer game with flying ships and transports mixed in with flying jet packs and disc launchers. You could say it was battlefield, way before battlefield. Tribes was a revolution in PC online multiplayer gameplay. Everything was DM, TDM or CTF, then Tribes came out. Before Quake 3, before Unreal Tournament, still besting both with its gameplay after they came out. There was nothing like it, near it. TFC would be the closest, with its classes gameplay, but is obviously far far away nothing like it.

You were called out for a reason.
 
Don't get mad.
It's obvious you've never played Tribes. Tribes was huge back in 1998-2000 and was the first squad based multiplayer game with flying ships and transports mixed in with flying jet packs and disc launchers. You could say it was battlefield, way before battlefield. Tribes was a revolution in PC online multiplayer gameplay. Everything was DM, TDM or CTF, then Tribes came out. Before Quake 3, before Unreal Tournament, still besting both with its gameplay after they came out. There was nothing like it, near it. TFC would be the closest, with its classes gameplay, but is obviously far far away nothing like it.

You were called out for a reason.
I'm not mad, and no, I wasn't called out. I've played it many, many years ago and didn't enjoy it back then. Its one advantage was that squad based concept which worked before the hard and fast rule "you might be a team, but you don't work as one" was permanently entrenched in every FPS after it.
 
I'm not mad, and no, I wasn't called out. I've played it many, many years ago and didn't enjoy it back then. Its one advantage was that squad based concept which worked before the hard and fast rule "you might be a team, but you don't work as one" was permanently entrenched in every FPS after it.

Then you understand why we find it better than Crysis in many ways? I have Crysis. It's not exactly a game I go back to. I couldn't tell you the last time I played it, or installed it... It's probably not installed. Ironically there is a new Tribes pseudo-MMO thats F2P that I do go back to every once in a while. Tribes was a genius stroke of creativity at the perfect time and in games today you see gameplay that started with Tribes. If you want to see a really refined example, try Planetside 2. Many elements that made Tribes great, without the skiiing. It is, of course, its own game but extremely like Tribes to a x100 scale(scale of the game I mean, not that they copied Tribes x100. PS2 is a true MMO).
 
Yeah as everyone else has said this list is bull.

In the video it's said that the criteria are innovation and community, but yet they left off Quake?? What other game embodies those qualities than Quake?
 
1 and 2 should be Goldeneye and Unreal Tournament 3 should be the original descent as it had 360 motion and full poly 3d models for enemies. Wolfenstien should be 4
 
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I've never even played Quake, but I think it's the first game to have the modern "WASD-mouse" controls, and I heard that the game designers didn't even intend for it to have it, but players invented it. Also, I recently played Duke Nukem 3D, and I was able to give it "modern FPS" controls, though as far as I'm aware, no one at the time did that. So those games could be on an "innovative FPS list."

Also, the list needs moar FEAR, Stalker, and Deus Ex.

no, not even close........go back to wolfenstien
 
Crysis was revolutionary from only a technical perspective. Gameplay-wise it wasn't anything ground-breaking and certainly nothing "Top 10-worthy", albeit being very enjoyable for the first half of the game.

FEAR is probably worth going in a Top 20 due to its enemy AI. We haven't seen any leaps in AI since the original FEAR, which itself isn't much more advanced than the human troops' AI in the original Half-Life. Halo is often touted as having great enemy AI, but apparently that is measured by enemies that randomly jump and bounce around with the goal of avoiding gunfire. I would really like to see some advances in AI quality in FPS games.
 
^ i would concur about that. Ever tried halo? The enemy AI is pretty decent, and often gives quite a laugh when they do something totally unexpected, like throwing a stick grenade boucing it off the wall only for it to stick himself or fellow mates. Or using the hammer at the wrong time and blow themselves by going after an afk player next to a energy core.
 
the whole list is wrong minus a couple games on there..

top 10 for me would be:

1. quake(personally liked quake 3 arena the most)
2. UT
3. original tribes
4. battlefield 1942
5. Half-life 1
6. Team Fortress Classic(TF2 might be good but doesn't deserve to be on any top 10 list since its just a bastardized update of TFC)
7. Return To Castle Wolfenstein (this includes the free expansion RTCW:ET)
8. CS 1.5(only version where the AWP wasn't a 1 shot kill by shooting some one in the foot)
9. COD4(hate the game personally but it had a big role in changing modern FPS's be it for the worst or the best depending on how you look at it)
10. halo 2(mostly for being the first xbox live multiplayer halo game in the series otherwise i'd say halo 1, yes halo 3 was more refined but it was just the same crap as 1 and 2 anyways)

i'm sure not everyone would agree on my top 10 list but the one from gametrailers is just dumb wrong. my guess they aren't old enough to remember half these games.

That's actually pretty close to accurate for me. Except I'd put Tribes #1, and replace Quake with Quake 2. And replace Halo 2 with any number of other games.

I loved, loved, loved Tribes. It has the biggest learning curve of any FPS game I think. It is so fast, and you have to know what you're doing or you don't stand a chance. A good FPS player can never play COD of BF before, and jump in a pub server and get some kills, cap a flag even. It would not happen in Tribes. The element of skiing and jet packs makes it so hard to be a casual gamer. I have never been soaked with sweat playing any other game before. Nice graphic for you people!
 
I've never even played Quake, but I think it's the first game to have the modern "WASD-mouse" controls, and I heard that the game designers didn't even intend for it to have it, but players invented it.
If you're referring to the actual use of WASD keys, that was attributed to Thresh, who was a prolific competitive Quake player. The default Quake bindings mapped movement to the arrow keys, like its predecessors.

no, not even close........go back to wolfenstien
The keyboard/mouselook combination didn't become popular until Quake.
 
^ sounds about right.

I know in quake 2, you can type exec thresh.cfg at the console window and it would set up what he used when he went to id software and helped test it for a week.
 
If you're referring to the actual use of WASD keys, that was attributed to Thresh, who was a prolific competitive Quake player. The default Quake bindings mapped movement to the arrow keys, like its predecessors.


The keyboard/mouselook combination didn't become popular until Quake.

lol popular != implimentation, please try again
 
I agree tribes should have been first...The greatest/most fun I've ever had playing a video game (isnt that what games are for?)..Renegades mod added so much strategy to the game it was insane: force fields, turrets, cameras, going in commander mode & using everything u place on the battlefield to kill people! Its crazy to this day no PC game has come close to everything it offered..Goldeneye was fun but I always sucked at playing FPS with a controller, still do...Which is why I dont play any FPS on anything but PC..
 
All I know is, I want UT2K4 popularity to come back lol.

Me too, but according to Epic most UT fans (subhuman race without talent for Quake) prefer UT99 and it's equally ridiculous reincarnation UT3.
 
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