So whats the next big phone release ?

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Seems like all the hot smartphone news had died down lately. Mainly due to all the hottest new phones have just been released the past couple of months. I think the top phones from each company are only 2 months old at best; iPhone 5...Nokia Lumia 920...Nexus 4.

So for 2013 what is the most anticipated smartphone release ? Nexus-Five...iPhone5S ?

Whats coming the first part of 2013 ? Will we see an HTC OneX2 being the first new Android phone out in the new year ? The Samsung Galaxy S IV will be a HUGE release as well, I think that's pinned for an April/May release ?

What about Windows Phone ? Whats next after Windows Phone 8 ?

Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie has me very interested as to whats coming from Google ? 2012 didn't see anything that new compared to ICS, I mean JB is just a better smoother version of ICS. But not the change ICS was from GB. Will KLP from JB be a massive change ?
 
I just got my Nexus 4, so I'm not ready to start thinking about my next phone yet. Haha. I imagine we'll be hearing lots at CES next month though.
 
Rumors I hear for 2013, will be 1080p screens on all new high end Android phones.
 
Zorachus said:
Rumors I hear for 2013, will be 1080p screens on all new high end Android phones.
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Yeah, 2013 will probably be the year of "What, no 1080p screen? GTFO."
2GB should be standard for Android phones too.
And who is going to be first to push "phablet" too far with a 6 inch phone?
 
koek said:
i think samsung galaxy s4 will be big!
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Me too. It will most likely have the newest Samsung screen technology, running 1080p Super AMOLED+, and I am sure a sexier design, they got a lot of criticism due to shiny plastic. Maybe ceramic body ? Curious what an all new Touchwiz will look like ? More stock Android style ?

Also interested to see if HTC will release a One X 2 in 2013 ?

And will Motorola finally release stock Android phones, or make the Nexus-Five next Fall ?
 
LG is never ever ever ever allowed to make another Nexus phone as long as I live. :)

I don't think I'd mind Motorola making the next Nexus. Seems like it should be them since they haven't made one and Google owns them now. Personally I'd like to see Motorola make all the Nexus hardware in 2013 so we have some consistency in Nexus product line.
 
Waiting for the s4 at this point. Was gonna get a GN2 but I may just hold off since my TB is still trucking.
 
Rumors are flying fast already for the SGS4 and an April release... Phandroid is saying plastic instead of glass screen 1080p / 4.99inch that will be much harder to break than glass. We'll see... just keep the microSD and swappable battery...
 
Well revisions of current flagship phones not withstanding, I think the first big major phone release scheduled is Blackberry. Though I'm sure my upgrade will be the Note 2 (or 3) I'm hoping that Rim could make a comback.
 
What will the Galaxy S IV bring to the table, besides the awesome new 1080p screen ? And best hardware. I am talking OS wise ?

The current S III is already running Jellybean, and there is no new Android OS due out until at least June after Goggle I/O, that could maybe release KLP, most likely that's a November release.

So the S IV will most likely ship with Jellybean again. Will Samsung come out with a major revised Touchwiz UI ?
 
Went from S2 to HTC One X to S3. Each was an improvement on the other, with strong points for each. S3 is the best combination of them.

The S4 sounds like it could be very interesting. There is even talk that it may possibly have a flexible screen: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S4-Screen-Display-amoled,19637.html

Not sure how likely, but sounds interesting. Hopefully a bigger battery if the phone is sealed.

The S3 running JB is fast enough for everything I do with it, but would love to have a screen more like the One X and build like the One X. If the One X had a removable battery, then it would be my regular phone. I can live without a MicroSD slot as I don't have music on my phone, so 16GB holds more than enough stuff for my use. S3 also seems to have better speeds on WiFi and cellular for whatever reason. Even before I upgraded to JB.

Samsung just released their premium suite for the S3 (International version only for now) that brings over some of the cool features of the Note 2 for use on the S3. So I would expect that at a minimum the S4 would have these and running 4.2 at a minimum. Whether it gets something totally new, who knows but even running ICS the high end phones just work well.
 
Zorachus said:
What will the Galaxy S IV bring to the table, besides the awesome new 1080p screen ? And best hardware. I am talking OS wise ?
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OS-wise it won't bring anything to the table. Samsung has never brought anything to the table here unless you actually like TouchWiz or the random apps they have.

You'll have to wait for Google's next device to get a new Android version.
 
kllrnohj said:
OS-wise it won't bring anything to the table. Samsung has never brought anything to the table here unless you actually like TouchWiz or the random apps they have.

You'll have to wait for Google's next device to get a new Android version.
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Samsung did give us windows in Android through touchwiz.
 
I'm waiting for new nexus. My Galaxy Nexus will definitely hold me over till then...
 
The next Blackberry, son! RIM's gonna come back and destroy everyone!! :p
 
Zorachus said:
What will the Galaxy S IV bring to the table, besides the awesome new 1080p screen ? And best hardware. I am talking OS wise ?

The current S III is already running Jellybean, and there is no new Android OS due out until at least June after Goggle I/O, that could maybe release KLP, most likely that's a November release.

So the S IV will most likely ship with Jellybean again. Will Samsung come out with a major revised Touchwiz UI ?
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We have reached point of diminishing returns - cpus/gpus are super fast already, every high end phone has retina class ppi display, battery life can't be improved since Li-Ion is super mature technology etc.

I don't even see a reason why I'd need to upgrade my Note 2.
 
It seems, that current generation of phones, no matter on the OS they use it's been nearly perfect - Android has S3, OneX+ or Note 2, WP got Lumia 920, and there is also iP5. Will be hard to make people switch, and I speak of those who choose their phone deliberately, not listen to marketing slogans.

There was a big switch for me from Xperia Arc (even modded to 4.2) to my Lumia 920. I can feel the difference and I started using more smartphonish things - watching movies, browsing web and apps, then I was doing on Arc.

But, I don't see the point of anyone jumping from Note 2 to Note 3 or S3 to S4 only for FullHD screen. I think, it's now more software, then hardware question of upgrade. If Android 5.0 (or whatever in store after 4.2-4.3) is breathtaking and groundbreaking, and Samsung/Sony/HTC make decision of not supporting their current flagships with new soft, but rather make us buy new phones, then this will be the point to upgrade - exactly how Microsoft done with WP7 to WP8 transition.
 
Michaelius said:
We have reached point of diminishing returns - cpus/gpus are super fast already, every high end phone has retina class ppi display, battery life can't be improved since Li-Ion is super mature technology etc.

I don't even see a reason why I'd need to upgrade my Note 2.
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And smartphone camera performances?

Smartphone A may have good low lighting quality but cartoon like over saturation; or smartphone B in good light may be relatively free of blurriness but have overblown lighting on your subject. Smartphone C's camera on auto mode in average lighting will have noisy photos, and if you adjust the ISO then blurriness comes in.

Frame rates? 24 fps on smartphone video cameras is abysmal, or 30 fps (ala One X+ and others) as an improvement still doesn't cut it. The jerkiness of such videos are distracting. Hopefully future iterations of smartphones will improve this.

Smartphones have yet to implement consistency in photo and video quality.
 
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I def would go from note 2 to a newer note with 1080p
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I think a phone like the Note II, should be #1 for higher resolution screen @ 1080p, it could actually be useful. Put more stuff on the screen, with 1080p the default layout in a Note 3 should be 6 X 5 grid, none of this 4 x 4 grid bullshit, on such a large screen, it looks stupid with so much empty slave between apps and widgets.

A higher resolution should mean more screen real estate. If you buy a 27" monitor today, I would think you go for the 2560x1440 version, not the 1920 version.
 
Zorachus said:
the default layout in a Note 3 should be 6 X 5 grid, none of this 4 x 4 grid bullshit
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Thats what I have set on my Photon 4G with the Go Launcher. I can only imagine how I would set a 1080p Note 3 class screen.
 
Supersnake said:
And smartphone camera performances?

Smartphone A may have good low lighting quality but cartoon like over saturation; or smartphone B in good light may be relatively free of blurriness but have overblown lighting on your subject. Smartphone C's camera on auto mode in average lighting will have noisy photos, and if you adjust the ISO then blurriness comes in.

Frame rates? 24 fps on smartphone video cameras is abysmal, or 30 fps (ala Note X+ and others) as an improvement still doesn't cut it. The jerkiness of such videos are distracting. Hopefully future iterations of smartphones will improve this.

Smartphones have yet to implement consistency in photo and video quality.
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Well you probably won't see that consistency for a good while. Phones get smaller but camera sensors do not do so well in such a small form factor. We'll have to wait for Canon or Sony to come up with some super awesome sensor technology that lets us fit in a sub 9mm form factor.

Until then we will have to gloat over the new 1080 screens, new radio's and excessive amounts of CPU/GPU power.
 
Zorachus said:
Me too. It will most likely have the newest Samsung screen technology, running 1080p Super AMOLED+, and I am sure a sexier design, they got a lot of criticism due to shiny plastic. Maybe ceramic body ? Curious what an all new Touchwiz will look like ? More stock Android style ?

Also interested to see if HTC will release a One X 2 in 2013 ?

And will Motorola finally release stock Android phones, or make the Nexus-Five next Fall ?
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I think stock Android is boring as hell. I upgraded to a s3 from a epic 4G and I am impressed with the amount of customization and functionality samsung added into touchwiz. I think Google could take a couple tips from samsung on the u.i. front. I have read the criticism about the plastic of the s3 but I was pleasantly surprised after handling it. It wasn't nearly as bad as people have described. Not to mention that I truly hate the unibody design and companies like HTC and now lg making their phones so you can't remove the batteries on their phones. That's the stupidest thing ever especially power users like myself. Got two replacement batteries and a wall charger for the s3 for $9 shipped.

Another pet leave is that just like the new Nexus and phones like the new Htcs which you can't remove the battery, some phones are being released without expandable memory. For what? So you can have a more "premium" feel? I feel like if someone wanted a premium quality build with no expandable storage or removeable battery, they'd should buy a iphone. A phone without a removable battery is as useless to me now as a iphone which is why I gave up on the iphones.

Anyway, as far as 2013 goes I agree it'll all be about 1080p screens. However, I think manufacturers need to start innovating on batteries. The more features we get on phones, the more we have to turn them off during the day so we don't eat up the battery. Whats the point of having a powerful phone if you can't use its features outside of a wall charger? I hope phones don't end up like laptops in the future where you have to sacrifice performance for battery life. I know manufacturers are getting better about energy efficiency, but I want phones lasting a solid day on 100% screen brightness, lte on all day...

My excitement for 2013 is more about service expansion rather than phones (I have sprint). I played with someone's Verizon DROID razr on lte and they were getting 10mbps down where I was barely getting 100kbps with my S3. I can only imagine how glorious it would be to have that speed with unlimited data.
 
If a phone OEM is worried about expandable storage making their phone feel like a less quality handset, why wouldn't they just do what Motorola does and put it under the back plate of the phone? But then that would make them want to include a removable battery and we all know that is going out the window...
 
Trimlock said:
If a phone OEM is worried about expandable storage making their phone feel like a less quality handset, why wouldn't they just do what Motorola does and put it under the back plate of the phone? But then that would make them want to include a removable battery and we all know that is going out the window...
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Perfect example of how stupid some oems can be, and HTC EVO 4G LTE... On the back of the phone, the top half is removeable just for the memory card. Stupid. Might as well have the entire thing open and ditch the stupid kick stand if that's what held them back from removing the entire back.
 
Trimlock said:
Well you probably won't see that consistency for a good while. Phones get smaller but camera sensors do not do so well in such a small form factor. We'll have to wait for Canon or Sony to come up with some super awesome sensor technology that lets us fit in a sub 9mm form factor.

Until then we will have to gloat over the new 1080 screens, new radio's and excessive amounts of CPU/GPU power.
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Sensors aren't the limiter in cameras it is optics. Y. Can have a 500megapixel sensor that will look like muddy crap without lens optics up to the challenge.
 
zamardii said:
Perfect example of how stupid some oems can be, and HTC EVO 4G LTE... On the back of the phone, the top half is removeable just for the memory card. Stupid. Might as well have the entire thing open and ditch the stupid kick stand if that's what held them back from removing the entire back.
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EVO 4G LTE is a great example of a device with great potential done entirely wrong on both hard and software fronts
 
Skripka said:
Sensors aren't the limiter in cameras it is optics. Y. Can have a 500megapixel sensor that will look like muddy crap without lens optics up to the challenge.
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When I mentioned sensors I ment to include optic's as well.

Oh and +1 to both of you for the Evo comments.
 
the next big thing is already here, it's the PADFONE 2
 
Skripka said:
Sensors aren't the limiter in cameras it is optics. Y. Can have a 500megapixel sensor that will look like muddy crap without lens optics up to the challenge.
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Sensors are a limiter as well, especially size. Your hypothetical 500mp sensor would be insanely noisy. This is a big problem already for cell phone cameras - the sensors are too small.
 
kllrnohj said:
Sensors are a limiter as well, especially size. Your hypothetical 500mp sensor would be insanely noisy. This is a big problem already for cell phone cameras - the sensors are too small.
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Its a combination of both, I wouldn't expect anything amazing this year as far as cameras on phones goes. Minus the small increments we are getting that is.
 
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