Eizo Foris FS2333

image processing effects and talk about input lag when using overdrive in the manual
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probably 60hz locked again
premium price

yep, definitely as "good" as the fs2332
 
The FS2332 has similar image processing features and 0.6ms of input lag

The premium is paid for the better image quality, warranty, calibration potential and this will again likely be the only non TN/VA display that isn't extremely grainy.
 
I don't think input lag is going to be the issue here. Even the Eizo SX2762W somehow manages only 8.5ms and that thing has scalers, DUE, and colour drift compensation.

The two main questions would be whether or not they improve the response time compensation and whether the touted feature actually works properly. The smart resolution feature in the FS2332 works fine but gets messed up if you jump between screens very quickly.
 
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@ NCX

I see what you're saying about the coatings but all of the information available on Eizo's website, including the extended spec in the user manual, mentions an IPS panel specifically. I wouldn't doubt that this is what it is.
 
Eizo lists their FS2332 panel as an IPS but its definitely PLS. I own a NEC LCD2690wuxi2 and Eizo FS2332 and have owned a S27A850 so I know the difference between the coatings. At the end of the day, the coating is definitely different from a typical gloss or matte coating.

They're doing the same thing as Apple does with the iPad 3. The iPad 3 is PLS but the website still claims its an IPS monitor. I actually asked Eizo directly about the screen coating before I bought the monitor straight from them. This is the answer I got:

Hello XXX

1) it is an ips panel
2) it has anti-glare coating, we do not like glossy screens if they are being used in a non-dark room.
3) the power supply is universal
4) you get the 5 year warranty but only 3y on the panel, (normal Eizo global warranty). in Australia, you get 5 y warranty on the lot. Should anything go wrong with items purchased overseas, we will repair the monitor. We do not keep parts here we order them in after diagnosis from Japan. Customers who purchase in aust or nz get a loaner unit whilst waiting for repair/ we can no extend that courtesy to overseas purchasers unfortunately. But as I said, our monitors very rarely break down anyway.

Why do you want to purchase from overseas? Is it a price thing, or a convenience thing?
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Someone on hardforum actually ripped their model open and the panel is made by Samsung. It also doesn't have a typical anti-glare coating. It actually reflects light much better than LG's version though I don't really shine bright light over it on purpose.

Its hard to say whether or not the FS2333 will be using a matte IPS panel but the FS2332's spec sheet is actually completely wrong about the panel type. Not that its a bad thing, the 23" PLS panel is much better than your typical 23" matte IPS panels.
 
A little bit offtopic, but are there any real advantages of PLS, compared to IPS (lets say both are 6bit + FRC panels), except the AG coating?
And do you know about any other PLS/IPS monitors with coating similar to FS2332/FS2333 and Samsung S24A850 (not glossy and not the standard heavy AG coating)?
I really liked the FS2332, but it is too expensive here in Bulgaria (~$820) and I still can't find the Samsung anywhere.
 
I don't understood the difference of this monitor when comparing it with FS2332.

Does it have a different panel?
 
I don't know about the "Smart Insight" feature, when watching the Promo Video the side with "Smart Insight OFF" just looks like a monitor with its brightness set way lower than normal..

Other than this im still interested, looks like it might be a worthy replacement for one of my current 23" monitors.
 
alike said:
A little bit offtopic, but are there any real advantages of PLS, compared to IPS (lets say both are 6bit + FRC panels), except the AG coating?
And do you know about any other PLS/IPS monitors with coating similar to FS2332/FS2333 and Samsung S24A850 (not glossy and not the standard heavy AG coating)?
I really liked the FS2332, but it is too expensive here in Bulgaria (~$820) and I still can't find the Samsung anywhere.
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There are 2 advantages

1.) So far all matte PLS panels use semi-glossy coating which is the lightest matte coating
2.) Tinting has not been a problem for PLS panels while many IPS panels still come with parts of the screen tinted yellow or pink.

There are 4 <24" displays with PLS panels

Eizo EV2335, Eizo Foris FS2332/FS2333 and the Samsung S24A850D.
 
NCX said:
There are 2 advantages

1.) So far all matte PLS panels use semi-glossy coating which is the lightest matte coating
2.) Tinting has not been a problem for PLS panels while many IPS panels still come with parts of the screen tinted yellow or pink.

There are 4 <24" displays with PLS panels

Eizo EV2335, Eizo Foris FS2332/FS2333 and the Samsung S24A850D.
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Are you sure that this is a PLS monitor?
I'm asking the difference between FS2332 and FS2333, you saied that both have PLS
so what the point?
 
sblantipodi said:
Are you sure that this is a PLS monitor?
I'm asking the difference between FS2332 and FS2333, you saied that both have PLS
so what the point?
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I'm guessing that it will be PLS.

Since the monitor isn't out yet, how would I know how different they are?

Most companies updates their models yearly, the FS2333 seems to be the 2012 update.
 
PLS is Samsung's version of IPS. Stating about a PLS panel that it's IPS is not incorrect. And to specify the broader group of IPS as the panel used gives them potential room to switch for other IPS types if they'd be forced to.
 
It's already out in Japan and some other countries, it's a PLS panel like the FS2332.
These days manufacturers are advertising PLS panels as IPS panels.
I'm mostly interested in it due to the low input lag.

I sent an e-mail to EIZO and they said that it will be released in North America
in a few months after the old stocks of the FS2332 are depleted.
 
I really wish they'd make a bigger Foris. They really look like my kind of monitor (high quality, but focused around gaming/entertainment), but I can't go back to a smaller screen, I've come to love large monitors too much :).
 
bought it.
To make it short, same thing than the FS2332 but with a more agressive overdrive and a lot cheaper
 
I bought three of them, for an Nvidia Surround setup. I'm pleased with how consistent their quality is. Using the "User1" preset and lowering blue from 100 to 87 makes all three displays pretty much bang on perfect. Exactly Gamma 2.2 and balanced colors.

The AG is pretty much perfect, no sparkly artifacts of any kind, and the input lag and overdrive make it fast, responsive and without artifacts. Upping the overdrive setting from normal to high creates mad artifacting, so just sticking to the defaults that User1 has and then lowering backlight to 50 and blue to 87 made the picture good enough for me. I used a Xrite i1Display Pro to calibrate, and with the settings at those levels they don't need additional calibration. They're so close to perfect in color balance that doing the before and after comparison with calibration makes no visual difference.
 
Any upcoming review on this one NCX? There's not a single good review on it out there:(
I am selling my Bencrap XL2420T and are looking for an IPS panel with low input lag/ghosting and this one and the Asus VG23AH so far looks like the best ones.
I have however been a bit spooked by the horizontal lines people are talking about on the VG23AH.
 
NCX said:
PRAD's Review is as good as they get and is well worth the 2.5€, use chrome to translate:

http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-eizo-foris-fs2333-bk.html

Compare to the FS2332:

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2011/review-eizo-fs2332.html

I won't be reviewing any more displays this year.
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Alright, i have a question about the Asus tho.
Is it a problem on all of the screens or is it only on some? Alot of people seems to have the problem but you didn't mention it in you're review.
 
Just bought and read the Prad review - where can i buy the FS2333 in the US?!
 
Just got one for me too.... it's amazing. Purely amazing. sRGB on proper 8-bit panel is, even out of the box, pure sexness. Now going to try some gaming... but so far I'm f**** amazed.

Only drawback is that menu and most of functions, accessible only via remote control. It's small remote controll, so unless you keep check on it, it may be lost quickly.
 
All three of mine should be arriving next Tuesday (Aus). If any Australians are interested in purchasing these I have been in contact with Eizo, and can distribute the monitors. Please feel free to contact me. :)
 
For how much?

MorgothPl said:
Just got one for me too.... it's amazing. Purely amazing. sRGB on proper 8-bit panel is, even out of the box, pure sexness. Now going to try some gaming... but so far I'm f**** amazed.

Only drawback is that menu and most of functions, accessible only via remote control. It's small remote controll, so unless you keep check on it, it may be lost quickly.
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You can adjust most of the settings through DDC/CI so you don't really need the remote. Still annoying through.
 
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thinking of ordering one of these. Seems they are just fresh in here in Norway and im really pleased to see an IPS equiliate thats also tuned for gaming. Wonder if this will beat the 120-144hz tho?

i see this monitor spec says 3 things:
FullHD 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz

Vertical refresh rate 55 - 76 Hz
Horizontal refresh rate 31 - 81 kHz

does that mean i can set it to 76hz all around?
does it mean it will drop to 31hz in some situations?

thanks!
 
The monitor will probably do 1280x1024 @ 76Hz, doesn't say that it will do 1920x1080 at up to 76Hz. And the 31Khz refers to something completely different, first of all it is 31000Hz, not 31Hz and I believe it is more of a CRT term:

(From Wiki)

The refresh rate can be calculated from the horizontal scan rate by dividing by the number of horizontal lines and multiplying the result by 0.95 (since about 5% of the time it takes to scan the screen is spent moving the electron gun back to the top). For instance, a monitor with a horizontal scanning frequency of 96 kHz at a resolution of 1280 x 1024 a refresh rate of 96,000 / 1024 x 0.95 = 89 Hz (rounded down).
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Digital Scanning Frequency (H / V) :
HDMI: 15 - 68 kHz, 49 - 61 Hz (VGA Text: 69 - 71 Hz)
DVI: 31 - 68 kHz, 59 - 61 Hz (VGA Text: 69 - 71 Hz)

Analog Scanning Frequency (H / V) :
PC: 31 - 81 kHz, 55 - 76 Hz

So unless you plan to run it with VGA connector dont bet on it doing anything over 60hz.
 
CrabJuice said:
Digital Scanning Frequency (H / V) :
HDMI: 15 - 68 kHz, 49 - 61 Hz (VGA Text: 69 - 71 Hz)
DVI: 31 - 68 kHz, 59 - 61 Hz (VGA Text: 69 - 71 Hz)

Analog Scanning Frequency (H / V) :
PC: 31 - 81 kHz, 55 - 76 Hz

So unless you plan to run it with VGA connector dont bet on it doing anything over 60hz.
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the specs are usually just random copy'n'paste and don't really mean anything
especially the "(VGA Text: 69 - 71 Hz)" doesn't make any sense
 
dowant120hz said:
the specs are usually just random copy'n'paste and don't really mean anything
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Pretty much my point also in response to the previous 76hz interpretation. Plus, even if the specs are 'correct' it doesent necessarily mean that the updating frequency is true and not filled with frameskips.
 
His specs might not mean anything to you but I think what it means is that because it is only a single link DVI input, you can only expect to get 1920x1080 at 61Hz max, because of the bandwidth limit on the cable.

With VGA you are limited to 400Mhz on RAMDACs normally, which in this case seems to allow you to run up to 76Hz (via the VGA)
 
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