Fired Toyota Coder Trashes Systems, Steals Data

My god. If he did this, he's has to be one of the dumbest people on earth. Why would you....ughh.

Now we know why he was fired. Poor bastard. =/
 
Ehh I'll play devils advocate :)

If you treat your employees like a commodity...don't be surprised when they retaliate...especially when they have the means.
 
People complain about H1B visas when 80% of university engineering/science graduates are foreign. Fix the education system and fund it better then talk about companies needing to hire from abroad.

Those brains would either be working here or helping another country take a bigger chunk of a future industry at our expense. H1B visas help keep our nation in the running, especially when we can't produce enough intellectuals of our own to keep up with demand.
 
Yeah and your assuming that you can keep a skilled coder out of systems when he has physical access, good luck with that.

No, I do not think anyone assumes that. But they do assume the piece of shit will end up in jail if they do.
 
Hmmmm, wonder if if this whole H1B thing could possibly have anything to do with American IT "Specialists" over inflating their self-worth, and hence not taking jobs offered at a lower wage than what they feel they deserve....

Just food for thought...
 
H-1Bs are a way for companies to basically hire indentured services at low low prices at the expense of both American jobs and the dignity and humanity of those they bring over.

An H-1B isn't necessarily cheaper for the company. The company still has to pay for the H-1B, and the person working under the H-1B still pays all the same taxes including social security. So if person A is willing to do a job for $40/hr, and person B is willing to do it for $20/hr - then person A is over charging. This is capitalism, pure and simple.

yes clearly we should pay programmers with college degrees and such minimum wage :rolleyes:

Who said we should? The people I was talking about on H-1Bs all make $100k/yr+ easy.

Minimum wage in America probably beats the hell out of what they'd make in their own country.

Nope - they came from countries like France, Germany, and the UK.

Your friends may be among the best at what they do, but I find it hard to believe that there's no one else in America who can do the job just as well or better. The only x-factor here is the pay. If a company wants to bring someone in on an H-1B, then they should have to prove that there are no US citizens who can do the job.

Seeing as the company they work for is still actively hiring and having trouble filling the positions - no, not really. Quality skilled workers are hard to come by.
 
Seeing as the company they work for is still actively hiring and having trouble filling the positions - no, not really. Quality skilled workers are hard to come by.

In support of this, I'd like to add that it's sometimes difficult to find employees among those who are US citizens that are not also carting along an inflated sense of entitlement regarding their worth to the world. Some (clearly not all) employees hired from off-shore are more dedicated and loyal with a better work ethic.

When I've phoned HP's home tech support, for instance, I've gotten people who I have trouble understanding but are exceptionally polite and patient. Acer, on the other hand, used to (around 2007) use stateside natives of the US based in California to provide phone support. Though I could understand what they were saying, they were dismissive, rude, and obnoxious. There's a cultural difference at the heart of that issue and it's demonstrated here by the outrage people have expressed over a business entity doing what it's designed to do, keep costs as low as possible while maintaining quality and quantity of work targets.
 
An H-1B isn't necessarily cheaper for the company. The company still has to pay for the H-1B, and the person working under the H-1B still pays all the same taxes including social security. So if person A is willing to do a job for $40/hr, and person B is willing to do it for $20/hr - then person A is over charging. This is capitalism, pure and simple.

It is crony capitalism, not true capitalism. In this case, the corporation uses the threat of violence from the state (in the form of forcible deportation and relocation if they loose their job) to discourage things like asking for a raise or asking for better working conditions.
 
It is crony capitalism, not true capitalism. In this case, the corporation uses the threat of violence from the state (in the form of forcible deportation and relocation if they loose their job) to discourage things like asking for a raise or asking for better working conditions.

Any college course that covers economics would cover the trouble of pure capitalism. I'm sure that, at some point during the time you worked to acquire a college degree, you learned about the advantages and disadvantages along with the resons why such systems simply don't exist on the planet.
 
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