Yep.
Fan Xpert+ control is PWM only. So I suppose the answer is to use PWM fans if you want
that feature to work. Not sure what happens if you use Fan Xpert II on a Fan Xpert+ board off the top of my head, as I have never tried it.
-Raja
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Yep.
Fan Xpert+ control is PWM only. So I suppose the answer is to use PWM fans if you want
that feature to work. Not sure what happens if you use Fan Xpert II on a Fan Xpert+ board off the top of my head, as I have never tried it.
-Raja
EZ Flash->"Image outdated"->No-go
Bupdater-"BIOS file is older than current BIOS"->No-go
Tried both 1205 and 1015. Maybe Flashback could do the job but I'm too lazy to open the case right now.
Is this standard practice nowadays to block older bios versions completely?
edit: if I remember correctly 1406 didn't even contain ME update which could easily explain this?
http://event.asus.com/2012/mb/P8Z77_Series_Motherboards/page7_AvailableModels.htm
So what I've heard is that any board listed on that page that shows Fan Xpert II, those supposedly have case fan headers that can utilize either PWM or voltage control to adjust the speed of the case fans. Is this true?
What I also heard is that all the boards listed on that page that show Fan Xpert +, that those case fan headers can ONLY use PWM to adjust fan speed of case fans.
So the gist was that while a board with Fan Xpert + could download Fan Xpert II, they wouldn't be able to utilize voltage control to adjust fan speed as they are lacking the necessary hardware to do so. Whereas any board listed on that sheet with Fan Xpert II, those would be able to use either PWM or voltage control.
Would you be able to tell me if those points are accurate? Thanks!
What you've witten above is essentially the same thing asked me before
To which I responded, just use 4 pins fans to be sure...Don't have that info to hand as I don't have the LX board. What I do know is that on our boards the chassis fan headers can control 4 pin and 3 pin fans while the CPU Fan headers cannot (they are ALL 4 pin only). If Fan Xpert + cannot calibrate 3 pin chassis fans then you should be able to control them from UEFI. I have no other information I can share with you at present as the offices are closed and I am off work this weekend also.
Why doesn't P8Z77-V board have an option to change VCCIO voltage? I've read on numerous forums that RAM Voltage - VCCIO needs to be within 0.5V in order to be safe in terms of CPU lifespan. So that means that I can't run memory with more than 1.55V because default VCCIO is 1.05V
What you've witten above is essentially the same thing asked me before
Don't have that info to hand as I don't have the LX board. What I do know is that on our boards the chassis fan headers can control 4 pin and 3 pin fans while the CPU Fan headers cannot (they are ALL 4 pin only). If Fan Xpert + cannot calibrate 3 pin chassis fans then you should be able to control them from UEFI. I have no other information I can share with you at present as the offices are closed and I am off work this weekend also.
I understand that using 4-pin PWM fans is the only way to be sure, it's more out of morbid curiosity I was wondering because the instruction manuals aren't particularly clear in this area. If there's one area the manuals could be improved, would be to clearly specify which methods of speed control the various fan headers can support. While 4-pin usually is synonymous with PWM, it would be nice to know if the header could also vary the speed of a 3-pin fan connected to a 4-pin header using voltage control.
For example, I could have sworn I had read that what you stated above is reversed, that the CPU fan header can control either 3-pin or 4-pin, but the Chassis fans were 4-pin only. Meaning you could plug a 3-pin fan into a CPU header and it could still control the speed. However if you plug a 3-pin fan into a Chassis fan header, it will always run at 100% and can't control speed. However the manual doesn't say one way or another which each header does and does not support, and this clarification would be very helpful for people shopping for new boards and comparing between brands/models. One of the many things that sets ASUS apart at the moment is their flexible fan control options built into the board. Who wants to buy a separate controller if the motherboard can do it all on it's own?
Since this is a technical detail that most support or sales reps just don't know, if it's not in the manual then potential customers won't know either. It would be a shame if they didn't realize it has an option they're looking for, but because they can't find out they decide to go with another board instead.
ASUS by far has the most comprehensive set of fan control options, which for me personally is a HUGE reason why I'm pretty much set on getting an ASUS board. Even if you don't use it right away, it's nice to know what options are available for future expandability.
I'm trying to decide whether the LX model would suffice, or whether it's worth upgrading to the P8Z77-V model, however if the fan control hardware isn't different between the 2, then the LX would be sufficient.
When looking at RAM compatibility with the P8Z77-V LX, was wondering if the following RAM would be compatible? It's $5 cheaper then the Ripjaws series by G.SKILL, and the specs look almost identical. The Ripjaws are listed as compatible, however the Sniper isn't listed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
Let me try and keep this uber-concise and hopefully this at least will clear your confusion on the CPU headers.
The CPU headers on all boards WILL NOT control 3 pin fans. Has nothing to do with Fan Xpert + or 2. The CPU headers are PWM only.
Chassis fan headers will likely be 3 pin or 4 pin only on the Fan Xpert + models as far as I am aware (will confirm).
The higher end models allow PWM and 3 pin control on all chassis headers, BUT still, even on those higher end models the CPU headers ARE 4 pin only (on the ROG boards that is 100% as I have them here).
I will confirm what I suspect on the 3 pin only control on the chassis headers of the LX (or Fan Xpert +_) when the office opens next week. For now I have capitalized the parts I am 100% sure of (the CPU headers). This should bring you some peace of mind for now, at least enough to get some sleep this weekend.
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You can control VCCIO by increasing VCCSA. VCCIO keeps a delta with VCCSA. You increase VCCIO by the same amount as you increase VCCSA. When VCCSA is at stock VCCIO will be 1.05V. When VCCSA is 1.00V, VCCIO will be 1.10V and so forth. The rails are tied but what you need to do does work, and this is in hardware so will NOT change with a UEFI update.
No idea, depends what ICs they use. If you want to be sure stick with what is qualified or ask other users what kits they are using successfully.
Let me try and keep this uber-concise and hopefully this at least will clear your confusion on the CPU headers.
The CPU headers on all boards WILL NOT control 3 pin fans. Has nothing to do with Fan Xpert + or 2. The CPU headers are PWM only.
Chassis fan headers will either be 3 pin only on the Fan Xpert + models as far as I am aware (will confirm).
The higher end models allow PWM and 3 pin control on all chassis headers, BUT still, even on those higher end models the CPU headers ARE 4 pin only (on the ROG boards that is 100% as I have them here).
I will confirm what I suspect on the 3 pin only control on the chassis headers of the LX (or Fan Xpert +_) when the office opens next week. For now I have capitalized the parts I am 100% sure of (the CPU headers). This should bring you some peace of mind for now, at least enough to get some sleep this weekend.
Thanks again, I appreciate you letting me know the facts. Sorry for my confusion, without the manual expressly stating the facts, it's easy to get confused when all you have to go by is what people on different forums say lol.
What's curious is the 2 case fan headers on the LX in the owners manual show they are both 4-pin headers, while there is a single power fan header that is only 3-pin. So I'd assume the 2 case fan headers, if they are 4-pin, would be PWM as well then just like the 4-pin CPU fan header?
You're right about it doesn't matter whether it's Fan Xpert + or Fan Xpert 2, it's based on what the hardware in the boards supports. A lot of people on the forums assume it's based on the software, but software can't control something the board wasn't built to support.
Well, to be honest I'm a bit cautious since I've never used it before. Once bricked P8P67 (although some blame can be pointed to poor instructions) and that wasn't so nice
Even more so if current bios may be flaky.
USB BIOS flashback is low level and can be done with the board in standby, without CPU and memory plugged in. FAT32 formatted flash drive in the white port with the CAP file renamed to the relevant name for your board. This will flash back safely,
Yes, I tried already but seems that this won't work either.
Downloaded 1205, renamed file to "Z77VB.CAP" and placed it to 256MB USB-stick, apart from that file empty and formatted as FAT (old stick I use only for BIOS updates).
Put that to white (USB2) port at back panel after shutdown, and pressed button at MB. FLBK_LED flashes few times and then stays lit. After ~15 mins nothing had changed so I started computer up and UEFI is still ver 1406. At no point stick flashed it's led to indicate read operation.
All other USB devices (mouse, scanner, printer, DVB-T) were also removed during this. And I also tried another USB2-port with same result.
Am I doing something wrong or what?
edit: I assume that CPU etc. doesn't have to be removed for this
edit2: also read this,
"If the light flashes for five seconds and turns stable, USB BIOS Flashback is not operating properly. This may be caused by improper installation of the portable storage device, an error in the file name, or incompatibility in file formats. If this is the case, restart the system until the light clears, and check the file name and format."
http://event.asus.com/2012/mb/USB_BIOS_Flashback_GUIDE/
But this isn't the case, at least as far as I can tell.
Downloaded 1205, renamed file to "Z77VB.CAP" and placed it to 256MB USB-stick, apart from that file empty and formatted as FAT (old stick I use only for BIOS updates).
Put that to white (USB2) port at back panel after shutdown, and pressed button at MB. FLBK_LED flashes few times and then stays lit. After ~15 mins nothing had changed so I started computer up and UEFI is still ver 1406. At no point stick flashed it's led to indicate read operation.
All other USB devices (mouse, scanner, printer, DVB-T) were also removed during this. And I also tried another USB2-port with same result.
Am I doing something wrong or what?
edit: I assume that CPU etc. doesn't have to be removed for this
edit2: also read this,
"If the light flashes for five seconds and turns stable, USB BIOS Flashback is not operating properly. This may be caused by improper installation of the portable storage device, an error in the file name, or incompatibility in file formats. If this is the case, restart the system until the light clears, and check the file name and format."
http://event.asus.com/2012/mb/USB_BIOS_Flashback_GUIDE/
But this isn't the case, at least as far as I can tell.
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Perhaps try a different USB stick formatted as FAT32. I have flashed back from the 14xx to 12xx series UEFI several times in the last couple of days using BIOS Flashback.
They can't test every possible scenario wih every SSD, it's impossible.
Don't forget to tell support what SSD you are using with mSATA.
Regardless of what you think of support it is still worth reporting it.
Yes, I tried already but seems that this won't work either.
Downloaded 1205, renamed file to "Z77VB.CAP" and placed it to 256MB USB-stick, apart from that file empty and formatted as FAT (old stick I use only for BIOS updates).
Put that to white (USB2) port at back panel after shutdown, and pressed button at MB. FLBK_LED flashes few times and then stays lit. After ~15 mins nothing had changed so I started computer up and UEFI is still ver 1406. At no point stick flashed it's led to indicate read operation.
All other USB devices (mouse, scanner, printer, DVB-T) were also removed during this. And I also tried another USB2-port with same result.
Am I doing something wrong or what?
edit: I assume that CPU etc. doesn't have to be removed for this
edit2: also read this,
"If the light flashes for five seconds and turns stable, USB BIOS Flashback is not operating properly. This may be caused by improper installation of the portable storage device, an error in the file name, or incompatibility in file formats. If this is the case, restart the system until the light clears, and check the file name and format."
http://event.asus.com/2012/mb/USB_BIOS_Flashback_GUIDE/
But this isn't the case, at least as far as I can tell.
Try what Jkramp said above - FAT32 format. Works for me on the boards I have here, and several others that have reported flashing back.
Eeep, guess I better flash back to the previous BIOS also.
EDIT: Awesome, it won't let me flash from BIOS. I choose the flash tool, the screen goes black, and nothing happens. Good ol beta/official/beta FW
Well it's too late to screw with it at this point, I'll do it later today. Guess I'll try that magic BIOS button on the back that was never going to get used. I trust that more than BIOS updates in Windows.
EDIT: Awesome, it won't let me flash from BIOS. I choose the flash tool, the screen goes black, and nothing happens. Good ol beta/official/beta FW
Well it's too late to screw with it at this point, I'll do it later today. Guess I'll try that magic BIOS button on the back that was never going to get used. I trust that more than BIOS updates in Windows.
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Ok, did that but it didn't change anything, and how could it, as said, USB never gives any sign of life, so FAT16/FAT32 shouldn't make any difference. Few blinks at FLBK_LED and then stays lit.
Should be ok?
I'm thinking that I'll just wait for next release and let this one be
Only reason it would flash like that and then stop, is if the format or the filename is wrong.
EDIT: These BIOSes were NOT pulled. Server update so they have had to place back into the upload queue. The same builds should be up again in 48 hours, so just stay on the BIOS you are on if you have no issues.
EDIT: These BIOSes were NOT pulled. Server update so they have had to place back into the upload queue. The same builds should be up again in 48 hours, so just stay on the BIOS you are on if you have no issues.
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Just gonna lay this out in simple terms so we get no more confusion and hopefully answer all queries and remove doubts.
1) Boards that only support Fan Xpert + have a different super IO chip. This particular chip does not have the range of control used on the boards that use Fan Xpert 2. So there is no benefit in using Fan Xpert 2 software on a board that does not have the requisite hardware. Nothing will be gained from it.
2) The chassis fan headers of ALL boards is DC only. That means if you plug in a 4 pin fan into a chassis fan header (irrespective of which board model it is) it will only be controlled in DC mode. So, if you use a 4 pin fan on the chassis headers it will be controlled albeit in DC mode.
3) The CPU headers on ALL boards can ONLY control 4 pin fans. If you plug a 3 pin fan into the CPU headers they will run at full speed and cannot be controlled.
-Raja
lleonidas004
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I am using P8Z77-V Deluxe, it has
2 SATA 6GB Intel (White Port)
2 SATA 6GB Marvell (Navy Blue Port)
FOR INTEL PORT
I am planning to use 2 SSD in RAID mode plug into the Intel SATA Port and this is for OS and frequently use programs.
FOR MARVELL PORT
Then, 1 really huge HDD for games and stuff on the Marvell SATA. and to make this HDD work faster, I would like to add 1 SSD into another Marvell SATA to use as cache.
1. If this is possible can someone please provide me with the step by step instruction?
2. According to the manual it is not recommended to use Virtu MVP in the RAID mode. Does it mean with the above configuration I cannot use Virtu MVP?
Thanks guys
2 SATA 6GB Intel (White Port)
2 SATA 6GB Marvell (Navy Blue Port)
FOR INTEL PORT
I am planning to use 2 SSD in RAID mode plug into the Intel SATA Port and this is for OS and frequently use programs.
FOR MARVELL PORT
Then, 1 really huge HDD for games and stuff on the Marvell SATA. and to make this HDD work faster, I would like to add 1 SSD into another Marvell SATA to use as cache.
1. If this is possible can someone please provide me with the step by step instruction?
2. According to the manual it is not recommended to use Virtu MVP in the RAID mode. Does it mean with the above configuration I cannot use Virtu MVP?
Thanks guys
liberalelephant
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I'm having some trouble with my new Asus P8Z77-V and i5 3570k. Sorry if this was answered earlier in the thread but I am too busy at the moment to skim the thread. Sometimes when I boot up it beeps once then powers down immediately after the fans try to spin up, then it will get caught in a cycle of trying to boot. Sometimes it boots and all the fans are spinning but there is no video and the red CPU LED is on.
Here are my system specs
- i5 3570k
- p8z77-v
- 2x8gb corsair ddr3
- msi 7770
I have tried the following
- putting ram in different slots
- one stick at a time
- tried my old 2x4gb ram
- both onboard and discrete video
- bios flashback to latest version
- checked socket for bent pins
- tried an i3 2120
Later I am going to try to test each new component (gpu, cpu and 16gb ram) with my old h77 motherboard to try to isolate the issue. Any help is appreciated, thanks!
Here are my system specs
- i5 3570k
- p8z77-v
- 2x8gb corsair ddr3
- msi 7770
I have tried the following
- putting ram in different slots
- one stick at a time
- tried my old 2x4gb ram
- both onboard and discrete video
- bios flashback to latest version
- checked socket for bent pins
- tried an i3 2120
Later I am going to try to test each new component (gpu, cpu and 16gb ram) with my old h77 motherboard to try to isolate the issue. Any help is appreciated, thanks!
Make sure the PSU cable that's attaching to the motherboard is not loose. I had that happen before and when press power to turn on, the fan spin like it's starting up but then turn off right after.
liberalelephant
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I have checked all connections at both the PSU and motherboard multiple times. Also it seems to boot after I mess with the RAM but it doesn't seem to be consistent with which slots it wants filled before it will boot.
Also I have no case speaker, so if its giving me a post error code I'm not sure I would hear it.
Has anyone been able to run these RAM sticks (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00592002W/ref=oh_details_o04_s01_i01) STABLE at 2400 on a P8Z77-V?
I am able to boot to Windows 7 and run several stress tests and benchmarks without a problem but as soon as I shut the computer off and try to turn it back on, the mobo will not turn on. I have to do a MemOK procedure in other to have it start up with stock settings.
I use the following settings to run it at 2400:
11-12-12-35 1T @ 1.65v
Like I said, it seems stable enough to get into Windows and run several tests without a problem. But as soon as I shut it off and on again, the system won't boot.
Thanks for any help...
I am able to boot to Windows 7 and run several stress tests and benchmarks without a problem but as soon as I shut the computer off and try to turn it back on, the mobo will not turn on. I have to do a MemOK procedure in other to have it start up with stock settings.
I use the following settings to run it at 2400:
11-12-12-35 1T @ 1.65v
Like I said, it seems stable enough to get into Windows and run several tests without a problem. But as soon as I shut it off and on again, the system won't boot.
Thanks for any help...
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liberalelephant
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Update
The new CPU, RAM, and GPU all work on the old H67 board. I guess I have to RMA my board. Any suggestions before I RMA? Thanks
The new CPU, RAM, and GPU all work on the old H67 board. I guess I have to RMA my board
. Any suggestions before I RMA? ThanksAs far as the Marvell disk caching goes, it's simple.
1) Plug in a SSD and a HDD into the 2 Marvell ports. I don't think it matters which is which since I haven't seen it listed any where, I have my HDD plugged in the bottom port, SSD on the top.
2) Have AI Suite installed
3) In AI Suite, click on the "Tool" button, then the "ASUS SSD Caching" button. There will be a button to click to get the caching going. It will wipe the SSD only, it won't touch the HDD. I know this from experience, I've turned the caching off and on a few times.
So, there I was about to download the new 14xx bios (1401 for my P8Z77-V Deluxe), and I saw something odd. A 1502 bios listed. No description there. Downloaded it and opened it up, none of the usual .pdfs regarding renaming guidelines. Very odd. I don't see myself trying it, but, did anyone else see this? Thoughts? Possible upcoming "hotfix" or some sort of mixup?
Full Screenshot of the website.
BIOS 1406 has been uploaded since yesterday for the -V Pro, but it's corrupted. The file is unusable. We have to wait for ASUS to realise and re-upload it.
There is a link to a good version of 1406 here:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20120801051000448&board_id=1&model=P8Z77-V+PRO&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
I've installed it and its a good update. New options to give a super fast POST are welcome.
For some reason, my iGPU appears to be enabled on my p8z77-v but I can't find a way to disable it. Can anyone help me? I've searched in every BIOS page and I see no option to disable it. Weird thing is that I don't remember seeing options like iGPU Frequency, etc, and now they appeared out of nowhere. What might be going on?
BTW, I'm on the latest BIOS for the p8z77-v.
BTW, I'm on the latest BIOS for the p8z77-v.
Virtu MVP version 2.1.115 was released two days ago, unfortunately the new version seems unsupported by my P8Z77-V PRO, previous version worked without hassle. After I install it it just says "Disabled license" and it does not work do active it.
Could anyone who has a P8Z77-series board that supports Virtu MVP please try and this new version and see if the activation works for you?
Contacted Lucidlogix support and they adviced reinstall of the program, wish I tried many times already.
Download: http://www.lucidlogix.com/driverdownloads-mvp.shtml
Best Regards!
Could anyone who has a P8Z77-series board that supports Virtu MVP please try and this new version and see if the activation works for you?
Contacted Lucidlogix support and they adviced reinstall of the program, wish I tried many times already.
Download: http://www.lucidlogix.com/driverdownloads-mvp.shtml
Best Regards!