Streaming Bluray Ripped Files on XBOX From HTC

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GreatestOne

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I am trying to find the easiest way to play Bluray ripped video files on my HTC through WIndows Media Center to my TV.

It seems I can play the m2ts files fine with awesome quality, but as u well know, all those files are not in sequence and will not play continuously, so that is useless for the enjoyment of watching a film.

The MPLS files play fine on my PC alone and in sequence with comparable quality, but it will not play in WMC.

I do not feel like dealing with Bluray discs, to me was the whole point of setting this up this way.

So what is the easiest way to play the MPLS files on WMC on the XBOX, or is there an easy way to combine the m2ts files into one m2ts file but in sequence? Muxing doesnt help bec it simply combines, has no idea how to put them in sequence, and "browsing" through like 20+ files and trying to figure out the sequence is not worth it.

Thanks!
 
Jeebus. Either use MakeMKV or Handbrake. Both are free. A simple search would have told you this.
 
valve1138 said:
Jeebus. Either use MakeMKV or Handbrake. Both are free. A simple search would have told you this.
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First of all, from my op it should have been obvious that I researched and tried different things already. FYI, "handbrake" did not come up on ANY first page of searching, although makemkv did and that is NOT what I am looking for if u read my op.
Also maybe you should do some research before giving bad advice...
"Unfortunately Handbrake does not support seamless branching Blu-rays yet so if you don't have just one big m2ts file follow this guide to demux your Blu-ray disc manually and remux it in an mkv file."
THAT was most of the reason why I am asking this in the first place, I was pretty clear in my op about this... there are like 10 programs that can convert one m2ts to an mkv, which was not what I was asking for.

I appreciate your time in willing to help, but you can eliminate the patronizing exasperation when you dont even give the right answers or didn't even read my op thoroughly.

dan87 said:
Good luck playing high bitrate MKV files on the xbox.
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Why would I play with anything if i have it converted to m2ts... Again as stated in my op they play fine on the XBOX. Do you have any actual useful information that may help my specific question?
 
Your post was clear as mud alright. And your attitude will surely go far to get you more help. :rolleyes:
 
Right.. and instead of asking for clarification you chose the high route, nice... dont worry, I got enough help from people who are actually willing to from somewhere else who cared more for helping others and discussing rather than touting their sad virtual high horse... but I guess they were mind readers because they understood and answered my EXACT SAME post clear as day... YEA that means YOU didnt get it or didn't even try, and continue wasting everyone's time.... god I hope you are not a teacher in real life. I help tons of people on forums, including this one, and never give that kind of attitude unless I am certain they are deadbeats. Either help or stay out of it.
 
Valve, we're a community here, you're kind of being a jerk...
 
GreatestOne said:
Right.. and instead of asking for clarification you chose the high route, nice... dont worry, I got enough help from people who are actually willing to from somewhere else who cared more for helping others and discussing rather than touting their sad virtual high horse... but I guess they were mind readers because they understood and answered my EXACT SAME post clear as day... YEA that means YOU didnt get it or didn't even try, and continue wasting everyone's time.... god I hope you are not a teacher in real life. I help tons of people on forums, including this one, and never give that kind of attitude unless I am certain they are deadbeats. Either help or stay out of it.
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Right, right, right.

huxley said:
Valve, we're a community here, you're kind of being a jerk...
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:rolleyes:
 
wmc doesnt understand BD directory structure. you will have to merge them.

most BDs are in 1 M2TS file, some split it across multiple but they ARE in order, generally starting at 0800.m2ts and going up (ie 0800.m2ts, 0801.m2ts, etc), sequentially. when the 1000s place changes, (ie 0850.mt2s to 0900.m2ts) its a different title in the BD

but thats not really necessary. use txmuxer and import the MPLS playlist file for the main movie. if you need help using tsmuxer message me, but its pretty straight forward once you examine all the options.


there are alot of rippers that can rip to a stream copied file based on the playlist file on the fly while ripping the disc...dvdfab blu ray ripper comes to mind as a super easy fool proof program. if your willing to pay (and hey its cheaper than ANY DVD HD anyway if you havent already bought that)
 
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Just so you know, you'll probably run into issues playing MKVs with the Xbox. The 350 only supports a VERY NARROW MKV profile that might make things annoying to get playing correctly. The short answer to all of this is to directly build and hook up an HTPC to avoid all of these issues and to leave the 360 as just a gaming console.

But yeah, use Handbrake and convert them into a H264 MKV file.
 
Procyon12 said:
wmc doesnt understand BD directory structure. you will have to merge them.

most BDs are in 1 M2TS file, some split it across multiple but they ARE in order, generally starting at 0800.m2ts and going up (ie 0800.m2ts, 0801.m2ts, etc), sequentially. when the 1000s place changes, (ie 0850.mt2s to 0900.m2ts) its a different title in the BD

but thats not really necessary. use txmuxer and import the MPLS playlist file for the main movie. if you need help using tsmuxer message me, but its pretty straight forward once you examine all the options.

there are alot of rippers that can rip to a stream copied file based on the playlist file on the fly while ripping the disc...dvdfab blu ray ripper comes to mind as a super easy fool proof program. if your willing to pay (and hey its cheaper than ANY DVD HD anyway if you havent already bought that)
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Ya, WMC ,the only way was to play the individual m2ts files, which was awesome visually but u can understand how annoying that can be with 200 files.

I have tried muxer a few times... first time i accidentally imported the m2ts files and it didnt take more than one at at time, so I was frustrated... when I finally learned it was the mpls files u need to add, I was fine... experimenting with that now, but first run I forgot to remove the subs and also the audio/video was off by like 1/3 second, so that was frustrating again. Latest mux desynced the audio/video by about 5 seconds, video looked good. Will try some other settings maybe.

I am actually trying DVDFab right now also (had some good reviews), and it has been one of the better programs actually... although its a lot slower than muxing. I am still waiting on my second try to an m2ts output to analyze it.... not sure why I even tried outputting to XBOX 360 first time, it just did a wmv thing and the quality was only about 80-90% of the original. I guess I forgot I can play m2ts on the XBOX, duhhhh.... but sometimes I just like messing around so I learn for myself how much worse quality is the wmv, which usually gave me good results converting from my 720p camera, which is, though, 720p.

But I dont understand your saying the m2ts in the bdmv/stream folder are in order... my Avatar files are from straight 00001 to 00237 and one lone one at 00720, and they are not in any particular order, all varying from 3.5GB to 100km, and almost every possible combo in between (not just 1,2 or 3 huge ones)... I didnt check every single 237 files, but enough random sampling to see I could not figure out a pattern. Maybe every movie is different?

Sorry for the extended followup, but I do appreciate your time and your expertise. :D
 
CrimandEvil said:
Just so you know, you'll probably run into issues playing MKVs with the Xbox. The 350 only supports a VERY NARROW MKV profile that might make things annoying to get playing correctly. The short answer to all of this is to directly build and hook up an HTPC to avoid all of these issues and to leave the 360 as just a gaming console.

But yeah, use Handbrake and convert them into a H264 MKV file.
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Exactly, which was why I wanted to combine the M2TS files in the first place, because as I said the XBOX played them perfectly... dont wanna deal with mkv, hence my whole "project."

If DVDFab or mux doesnt work, then I'll just build a little HTPC, which I really dont have room or budget for, but yes, might be the default solution with my kicking and screaming on that. Too bad my TV cant play videos off USB, although I dont think there are any TV's today that can play m2ts or mkv videos off a flash drive... but cant get a new TV for a while yet either so doesnt matter.
 
CrimandEvil said:
Just so you know, you'll probably run into issues playing MKVs with the Xbox. The 350 only supports a VERY NARROW MKV profile that might make things annoying to get playing correctly. The short answer to all of this is to directly build and hook up an HTPC to avoid all of these issues and to leave the 360 as just a gaming console.

But yeah, use Handbrake and convert them into a H264 MKV file.
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this post makes no sense because:
a) MKV is not a format, codec, or profile. its a container.
b) the xbox 360 has zero support for the mkv container. not narrow support, zero support.
c) OP never posted any desire to play mkv on xbox. its like your making a poor suggestion, and then saying why your suggestion is a poor one.
 
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GreatestOne said:
I have tried muxer a few times... first time i accidentally imported the m2ts files and it didnt take more than one at at time
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use join. are you using tsmuxer?
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR

I am actually trying DVDFab right now also (had some good reviews), and it has been one of the better programs actually... although its a lot slower than muxing. I am still waiting on my second try to an m2ts output to analyze it.... not sure why I even tried outputting to XBOX 360 first time, it just did a wmv thing and the quality was only about 80-90% of the original. I guess I forgot I can play m2ts on the XBOX, duhhhh.... but sometimes I just like messing around so I learn for myself how much worse quality is the wmv, which usually gave me good results converting from my 720p camera, which is, though, 720p.
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dvdfab has a remux mode. use that instead of encoding.

But I dont understand your saying the m2ts in the bdmv/stream folder are in order... my Avatar files are from straight 00001 to 00237 and one lone one at 00720, and they are not in any particular order, all varying from 3.5GB to 100km, and almost every possible combo in between (not just 1,2 or 3 huge ones)... I didnt check every single 237 files, but enough random sampling to see I could not figure out a pattern. Maybe every movie is different?
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i suppose...ive only come across a couple movies that werent in one file, and then they were generally in order...
 
Xbox 360 console support for AVI
File extensions: .avi, .divx
Containers: AVI
Video profiles: MPEG-4 Part 2 (Simple Profile and Advanced Simple Profile)
Video bit rate: 5 Mbps with resolutions of 1280 × 720 at 30 fps. See the question about max bit rate, resolution, and frames per second.
Audio profiles: Dolby® Digital (2 channel and 5.1 channel), MP3
Audio max bit rate: No restrictions. See the question about max bit rate, resolution, and frames per second.

Xbox 360 console support for H.264
File extensions: .mp4, .m4v, mp4v, .mov, .avi
Containers: MPEG-4, QuickTime
Video profiles: Baseline, main, and high (up to level 4.1)
Video bit rate: 10 Mbps with resolutions of 1920 × 1080 at 30 fps. See the question about max bit rate, resolution, and frames per second.
Audio profiles: AAC, 2-channel, Low Complexity
Audio max bit rate: No restrictions. See the question about max bit rate, resolution, and frames per second.

Xbox 360 console support for MPEG-4 Part 2
File extensions: .mp4, .m4v, .mp4v, .mov, .avi
Containers: MPEG-4, QuickTime
Video profiles: MPEG-4 Part 2 (Simple Profile and Advanced Simple Profile)
Video bit rate: 5 Mbps with resolutions of 1280 × 720 at 30 fps. See the question about max bit rate, resolution, and frames per second.
Audio profiles: AAC, 2-channel, Low Complexity
Audio max bit rate: No restrictions. See the question about max bit rate, resolution, and frames per second.

Xbox 360 console support for WMV (VC-1)
File extensions: .wmv
Containers: ASF
Video profiles: WMV7 (WMV1), WMV8 (WMV2), WMV9 (WMV3), VC-1 (WVC1 or WMVA) in simple, main, and advanced up to level 3
Video bit rate: 15 Mbps with resolutions of 1920 × 1080 at 30 fps. See the question about max bit rate, resolution, and frames per second.
Audio profiles: WMA7/8, WMA9 Pro (stereo and 5.1), WMA Lossless
Audio max bit rate: No restrictions. See the question about max bit rate, resolution, and frames per second

xbox sucks for playback. Even converted to WMV you will run into issues playing back blu rays rips on it.
 
e60.deluxe said:
this post makes no sense because:
a) MKV is not a format, codec, or profile. its a container.
b) the xbox 360 has zero support for the mkv container. not narrow support, zero support.
c) OP never posted any desire to play mkv on xbox. its like your making a poor suggestion, and then saying why your suggestion is a poor one.

use join. are you using tsmuxer?
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR

dvdfab has a remux mode. use that instead of encoding.

i suppose...ive only come across a couple movies that werent in one file, and then they were generally in order...
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Yes, u seem to be correct, the XBOX wont play any mkv I've just tried to test... which was never the issue anyways, not sure why the mkv thing keeps coming up anyways in this discussion from various people. I want join m2ts and stick with m2ts. (I know, I'm not directing this part at you per se)

Yes tsmuxer... I could not add the m2ts files no matter what, add or join or what not.. the only way and someone told me this, was to add the mpls files from the Playlist folder.... should this not be, i.e., were u able to add tens/hundreds of m2ts by dragging to the top window, add or join buttons? (some guy online advised to drag the files onto the top of the very button itself, which was active and worked for some, but not me)

In DVDFab, I was using the Blu-ray Ripper to M2TS mode... there is no audio tho, I think I was supposed click on ALL the English audio checkboxes maybe, not just the DTS-HD Master/5.1 that was selected as default, trying again with them all checked. I cant find anywhere for "remux mode"?

Procyon12 said:
most BDs are in 1 M2TS file, some split it across multiple but they ARE in order, generally starting at 0800.m2ts and going up (ie 0800.m2ts, 0801.m2ts, etc), sequentially. when the 1000s place changes, (ie 0850.mt2s to 0900.m2ts) its a different title in the BD
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Now I was just looking at the actual Windows filenames, but when I look at the Title(Angle) listing in DVDFab (totally different from their corresponding filenames), I see what u mean.... I was confused because this Avatar is the extended version with 3 different "titles," the theater, director's cut, and some other version, and now I see they are listed from longest to shortest versions:

Title (Angle).......Play Time/Chapter
3 .......................... 2:57:53/73
802 ...................... 2:57:53/43
852 ...................... 2:57:53/43
2 .......................... 2:50:18/72
801 ...................... 2:50:18/41
851 ...................... 2:50:18/41
1 .......................... 2:41:26/57
800 ...................... 2:41:26/36
850 ...................... 2:41:26/36

and then a bunch of smaller stuff. This still looks Swahili to me because why are there 3 different titles PER version, and then two of them have the same Chapter? I cant make logic out of this.

Thanks.
 
kemist1117 said:
Xbox 360 console support for AVI
File extensions: .avi, .divx

xbox sucks for playback. Even converted to WMV you will run into issues playing back blu rays rips on it.
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Thanks for the info but as stated in my op, thats why ALL I wanted out of this whole ordeal was to output ONE COMPLETE M2TS FILE, which again played 100% perfectly in the XBOX, so I am not sure what you mean by how it sucks for playback when I can play and view one of the m2ts files through WMC as good or better than any actual Bluray disc. I'm not a huge MS fan, but I had no complaints about that particular process and was very pleased with it.
 
I use MakeMKV to rip my BDs and then stream them with Playstation Media Server. PlayOn also works.
 
GreatestOne said:
Thanks for the info but as stated in my op, thats why ALL I wanted out of this whole ordeal was to output ONE COMPLETE M2TS FILE, which again played 100% perfectly in the XBOX, so I am not sure what you mean by how it sucks for playback when I can play and view one of the m2ts files through WMC as good or better than any actual Bluray disc. I'm not a huge MS fan, but I had no complaints about that particular process and was very pleased with it.
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Because even if you have not run into an issue yet, you will eventually. Look at what MS specs the Xbox as being capable of streaming. I have no issue with MS but the XBOX as a media streamer is a turd.
 
kemist1117 said:
Because even if you have not run into an issue yet, you will eventually. Look at what MS specs the Xbox as being capable of streaming. I have no issue with MS but the XBOX as a media streamer is a turd.
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I just played most of Avatar after using DVDFab and playing the single m2ts file... there was 5-6 hiccups for a second or two (didnt really interrupt the movie flow too much), but might have been due more to my PC doing something at the time than the XBOX. When I was copying massive files to that same drive, it was unwatchable. So as long as my PC stays fairly dormant, it seems I can use this method fine. We'll see what happens long term and then I'll reassess.
 
GreatestOne said:
In DVDFab, I was using the Blu-ray Ripper to M2TS mode... there is no audio tho, I think I was supposed click on ALL the English audio checkboxes maybe, not just the DTS-HD Master/5.1 that was selected as default, trying again with them all checked. I cant find anywhere for "remux mode"?
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I believe it has to do with what kind of codecs you have installed, unless you are talking about no audio on the 360.
My computer has the same issue, the audio is there, just no codec to play them. Once I take the m2ts files and convert them to mp4 or mkv with an encoder the audio plays fine.
 
Occidio said:
I believe it has to do with what kind of codecs you have installed, unless you are talking about no audio on the 360.
My computer has the same issue, the audio is there, just no codec to play them. Once I take the m2ts files and convert them to mp4 or mkv with an encoder the audio plays fine.
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the 360 doesnt handle DTS, most BDs are DTS. thats my guess.
 
Occidio said:
I believe it has to do with what kind of codecs you have installed, unless you are talking about no audio on the 360.
My computer has the same issue, the audio is there, just no codec to play them. Once I take the m2ts files and convert them to mp4 or mkv with an encoder the audio plays fine.
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Maybe.... I think I have pretty much every codec there is out there installed, but there are probably another thousand I dont know about. :mad:

But as soon as I checked ALL the audio format before converting, the result was ok, sound was good. Before I had only checked the DTS.
 
GreatestOne said:
I am trying to find the easiest way to play Bluray ripped video files on my HTC through WIndows Media Center to my TV.

It seems I can play the m2ts files fine with awesome quality, but as u well know, all those files are not in sequence and will not play continuously, so that is useless for the enjoyment of watching a film.

The MPLS files play fine on my PC alone and in sequence with comparable quality, but it will not play in WMC.

I do not feel like dealing with Bluray discs, to me was the whole point of setting this up this way.

So what is the easiest way to play the MPLS files on WMC on the XBOX, or is there an easy way to combine the m2ts files into one m2ts file but in sequence? Muxing doesnt help bec it simply combines, has no idea how to put them in sequence, and "browsing" through like 20+ files and trying to figure out the sequence is not worth it.

Thanks!
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I think the blu-ray ripper i use is wonderful and it can rip blu-ray discs easily and perfectly. It is Blu-ray Ripper.

If you want to combine these m2ts files, i recommend you video converters. most video converters has one editing function called merge and it will help you combine these files and make played smoothly without stop.
 
bellymeng said:
I think the blu-ray ripper i use is wonderful and it can rip blu-ray discs easily and perfectly. It is Blu-ray Ripper.

If you want to combine these m2ts files, i recommend you video converters. most video converters has one editing function called merge and it will help you combine these files and make played smoothly without stop.
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Piss off! You have 2 posts both of them linking to some POS software.
 
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