Achieva Shimian QH270| $400 IPS 2560x1440 Korean Monitor

pwrusr said:
Do any of these monitors support HDCP?

Could owners of any of the monitors in this thread check to see if HDCP is supported or not?

Example of if you have a nvidia card:

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This still has yet to be answered fully. And it's like the only thing that's really holding me back from pulling the trigger on one.
 
I don't have a screenshot cuz I'm at work, but I can confirm that the Yamakasi Catleap monitors support HDCP.

(Side note: if you overclock these with AMD cards it requires a custom driver that breaks HDCP. You aren't looking at an overclockable one anyways so this makes 0 difference to you)
 
LC155 said:
Your forgot Accessorieswhole. They're one of the ones that have a fedex account and will pay for shipping back to korea, which is especially important if you're going for a perfect pixel monitor.
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what about ta-planet



do these work at all with p67 chipsets? I see some mention of them on those chipsets having issues
 
I'm using a Shimian on a asus p8pp67 pro with a 6950 and everything works ( bios / boot screen / etc).

Still don't know how to check for HDCP on an ati card.
 
I finally got my 2 monitors from dreamseller. I ordered the IPSB model, and recieved the IPSI model. The glass is inset - doesn't cover the whole front of the monitor. The monitor is marked IPSB.

I am not sure if I care or not. I'll have them mounted on the dual VESA mount later today or tomorrow and will report back after I check them out.
 
IPSB is getting discontinued, and IPSI is its replacement. I'm guessing those who have monitors shipped directly from a factory warehouse might be sending out replacements if they are out of IPSB stock.

I think IPSI can be marked as IPSB(B).
 
If anyone wants an original IPSB (glass outside) without pixel issues or dust, I will be putting mine up for sale soon. It'll be more than $300 though, since I paid $400, got a $75 SquareTrade warranty for it (which is transferrable) and had to get a $30 replacement PSU when the original Frontek unit died.
 
Does anyone who has ordered one of these know what their calibrated black levels are? They're right near my budget and if the black levels would be at least marginally better than by current monitor (an aging Acer X223Wbd), then I don't think I'll be able to hold back. I saw that the Achieva Shimian QH300 was poorly rated on prad.de, but the 27" panels are different, right?
 
nonoitall said:
Does anyone who has ordered one of these know what their calibrated black levels are? They're right near my budget and if the black levels would be at least marginally better than by current monitor (an aging Acer X223Wbd), then I don't think I'll be able to hold back. I saw that the Achieva Shimian QH300 was poorly rated on prad.de, but the 27" panels are different, right?
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I purchased the Potalion and ran a calibration tool yesterday on it. I can't remember what the exact black level was supposed to be, but overall I could barely tell a difference with the calibration on/off. The values of the monitor lined almost right up to where they were supposed to be. What values are you looking for? I will try and look it up tonight.
 
silent-circuit said:
If anyone wants an original IPSB (glass outside) without pixel issues or dust, I will be putting mine up for sale soon. It'll be more than $300 though, since I paid $400, got a $75 SquareTrade warranty for it (which is transferrable) and had to get a $30 replacement PSU when the original Frontek unit died.
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Why pray-tell are you selling your korean monitor?
 
bbenz33 said:
I purchased the Potalion and ran a calibration tool yesterday on it. I can't remember what the exact black level was supposed to be, but overall I could barely tell a difference with the calibration on/off. The values of the monitor lined almost right up to where they were supposed to be. What values are you looking for? I will try and look it up tonight.
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I lack the know-how/equipment to test my current monitor's black levels, but according to a user review on Newegg (not necessarily authoritative), it achieves around .19 cd/m^2 when calibrated. I'm a noob though, so mine probably isn't even configured to have that low of blacks. I just turned the brightness down pretty low since I'm in a dark room, left the contrast at 50%, and figured it wasn't worth messing with it more since it was a cheap monitor. :p

A review on AnandTech placed the QH270's black levels at 0.342 cd/m^2, but I think that was with brightness at max, so it doesn't seem particularly meaningful.

I was looking at it a bit more today with the lights turned off, and realized that my current monitor may actually have satisfactory black levels, but it's not very uniform from top to bottom (I imagine because it's a cheap TN with poor viewing angles) and the blacks only look good enough in the area of the screen that is straight in front of me. So even if one of these rebrands can only match my monitor's black levels, I'm guessing perceived black levels would still be better thanks to IPS's better viewing angles and the lack of AG coating. But like I said, I'm a noob, so you guys know better than me I'm sure.

Oh and I'm still wanting to make sure that the QH300's poor rating on prad.de, isn't pertinent to the 27" models?
 
Okay great, that's what I was hoping. Now I just need to hear that they have decent black levels and I'll be sold. :)

One other thing I needed to ask about: I notice a lot of the sellers of these monitors on eBay have charts that list graphics card compatibility. I have a Radeon HD 5770, and according to many of these charts, that card is listed as unsupported. This strikes me as odd since, according to my card's specs, it supports dual-link DVI and resolutions up to 2560x1600. What's the deal with that? (A couple examples.)

EDIT: One other concern that occurred to me. The cheaper variants of these monitors (those without scalers) wouldn't work for things like navigating the BIOS or anything else where drivers hadn't yet been loaded, would they? (Since graphics card doesn't output at higher resolutions until the OS loads the drivers for it?) Or does the graphics card notice that the monitor only supports one resolution and automagically scale things to that resolution despite drivers not yet being loaded?

EDIT x2: Nevermind, I poked around and it appears my two previous questions are part of the same issue. It appears that cards not listed as supported may not scale areas like the BIOS and Windows loading screens. But it depends on the card and there's evidently no real way to know without testing it.

So now I'm back down to two questions: Still wondering about black levels, and wondering if the input lag that people talk about on the scaling models is serious. (Is it any more severe than a typical US retail monitor with multiple inputs?)
 
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Man, these things are gorgeous. I just turned them on & started using them. I'm sure there's something I should do with brightness and color balance or something, but I haven't gotten that far yet.

the resolution is omghueg though. Had to up the display scaling to 125% using the Magnifier tool. Not sure if that's the correct way to adjust DPI scaling or not though.
 
Sn0_Man said:
I don't have a screenshot cuz I'm at work, but I can confirm that the Yamakasi Catleap monitors support HDCP.

(Side note: if you overclock these with AMD cards it requires a custom driver that breaks HDCP. You aren't looking at an overclockable one anyways so this makes 0 difference to you)
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evt said:
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HDCP compatible for all 3
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Thanks guys! I suppose this means all of the 27" monitors mentioned in this thread is hdcp compatible then.
 
nonoitall said:
Still wondering about black levels?
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I answered your question in the other thread you made here. I have read most of these threads and all of the reviews (playerwares has reviewed almost all of them).

I have one with a scaler and one w/o, the input lag is noticeable coming from a near delay free display, but I can't say if you will notice it or not.

Many of the older Acer TN panels had around 1 frame of input lag, just like all of the 1440p displays with scalers, but the X223's delay is unknown.
 
so.. ordered my crossover from bigclothcraft Sunday.. had a follow up question from him yesterday.. ( validating I had a decent vid card, address etc ) and this AM I have a shipped message... so.. looking forward to getting it.. and retiring the Westy 37"!

in the mass of info on this thread, and the ocn, etc.. I kind of lost site into exactly which model to buy etc..

I ended up with this 27" New Crossover 27Q LED 2560x1440 WQHD Quad HD Monitor = $359 becasue others stated the stand was a bit better..

Looking back.... I hope the crossover I bought doesn't have any scaling / internal lag creation..

I meant to get single input DVI.. dont care about the OSD etc.. the lag on my Westy 37" has to be fairly crappy... dont know for sure what it is.. but I know its made my skillz suffer.. and the now the traveling smudge on the westy make it almost unplayable at times.. so.. excited to get this new display..the increased res and smaller area too.. should be pretty delicious after using the westy for years...
 
XBarbarian;1038873268 I ended up with this 27" New Crossover 27Q LED 2560x1440 WQHD Quad HD Monitor = $359 becasue others stated the stand was a bit better...[/QUOTE said:
I just made bigclothcraft an offer on the Crossover 27Q. Hopefully he will accept it.
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Trucido said:
Does anyone know which models will do 100hz or higher on GTX 6XX?
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its not clear any do any more.. seems like that ability to OC was in the earlier versions.. since then...I believe the lastest shipments utilize different components.. and dont tolerate the OC as much..

while the OC ability would be nice.. that is the least of my interests... Im just focused on a 27" 1440p glossy display for <$400.. that beats any other 27 1440p display domestically by multiple hundreds!
 
XBarbarian said:
its not clear any do any more.. seems like that ability to OC was in the earlier versions.. since then...I believe the lastest shipments utilize different components.. and dont tolerate the OC as much..

while the OC ability would be nice.. that is the least of my interests... Im just focused on a 27" 1440p glossy display for <$400.. that beats any other 27 1440p display domestically by multiple hundreds!
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true

120hz.net is doing a batch, at ~$450 of 120hz capable ones. Its tempting, but I doubt my 6970 xfire can get close to it. I'd be happy to order one that will do 75 or so
 
Trucido said:
Does anyone know which models will do 100hz or higher on GTX 6XX?
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Only Yamakasi Catleap monitors ever did over ~67Hz. Only the models produced in February or before (Commonly called "2B" for 2012 and B for 2nd month aka February) did that, although as mentioned before over at 120hz.net they are setting up more production of the "2B" monitors which will indeed do 100hz+ on a GTX 670/680/690.

I'd recommend checking out their site if that is what you want.
 
Thanks for the 100Hz/120Hz info. I found one on eBay for $529.99 but seems way overpriced. I'll see if 120hz.net is still selling them for $460

Edit: looks like they're just taking pre-orders so far on 120hz.net
 
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They are in the process of being manufactured. The first batch has already been sold and delivered (I got one) but the next batch is being slow (I believe early July is the target date for availability).
 
Trucido said:
Thanks for the 100Hz/120Hz info. I found one on eBay for $529.99 but seems way overpriced. I'll see if 120hz.net is still selling them for $460

Edit: looks like they're just taking pre-orders so far on 120hz.net
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they aren't taking pre orders, you have to be on the site when they go on sale.
where did you get this information?
 
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Sn0_Man said:
They are in the process of being manufactured. The first batch has already been sold and delivered (I got one) but the next batch is being slow (I believe early July is the target date for availability).
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so then.. what has been your max OC on the monitor you got?
 
I got to 110Hz, then got flickering lines until I changed DVI cables. With a higher quality cable (the included one seems a bit cheap), I hit 120Hz just fine except for a few lines every so often in games so I run at 119Hz lol. I think that if I went and got a serious DVI cable (24 Gauge) I could go past 120 but a) no point and b) it can be a pain getting these things in Canada (obviously not as bad as other places, but still).

This is with a GTX670 in there but my 7950 works just as well (requires custom drivers for AMD, available at 120Hz.net).

EDIT: Since It occurs to me that OC isn't the only details, My monitor has 0 dead pixels, minimal backlight bleed (I have to look for in in a pitch black room, even then its hard to see. I'm fairly sure this is much better than most Dells/ACD's). Stand is wobbly as everybody says but it isn't an issue since I don't feel the need to shove my monitor ever...

Colour looks MUCH better on this than the TN I have sitting next to it (no duh).
 
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awesome sn0_Man

for me.. I wasn't as focused on the 120hz part..just needed something to replace the Westy.. and these at 300-350 $ even without potential oc.. is the absolute steal of the day. so.. Im thrilled to have mine on its way!
 
Do your power bricks get very hot? I have a new 110V power brick, and it's very toasty (came with my monitor). Unsure if it's okay... It's rated for 110V+ and I'm operating it at 110V.

Edit: actually I think it's just one of my new bricks... could be defective, as the other one is nice and cool (same kind).
 
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I have one of the 120 hz capable ones just sitting in a box... impulse buy which I can't even use at the moment. But it sure looks pretty.
 
photoelectric said:
Do your power bricks get very hot? I have a new 110V power brick, and it's very toasty (came with my monitor). Unsure if it's okay... It's rated for 110V+ and I'm operating it at 110V.

Edit: actually I think it's just one of my new bricks... could be defective, as the other one is nice and cool (same kind).
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My power brick use to get really hot and also I would get white noise and hum through my Logitech speakers, Greensum is sending me a new brick. But for safety reasons in case of fire I purchased a new power brick locally and it meets the Australian Standards and this thing emits hardly any heat or hum through my speakers.
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That looks like a nice one.

After some experimentation, it appears that the brick only gets very hot if I run a complex video for a while at full brightness (which I did to try to get rid of stuck pixels). It's warm otherwise. Perhaps it's within specifications for it to run like at maximum current draw.

Could you see how hot your brick gets after 30 min of running this video, for comparison purposes? (if you have any stuck pixels, worth a try anyway)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4gE_Xez-fQ
I actually downloaded it with a link there and looped it on Windows Media Player (didn't help my bad pixels).
 
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Got one of the crossovers from ebay...amazing shipping time. So far so good, but my card wont allow any other monitors connected at the same time. I don't remember seeing any limitations like that in my research.
 
Monkey God said:
Got one of the crossovers from ebay...amazing shipping time. So far so good, but my card wont allow any other monitors connected at the same time. I don't remember seeing any limitations like that in my research.
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what card you using?
oh..nm.. HD6950 I see

hmm.. that is odd...
 
6950 only has one dual link DVI port, but you should be able to connect other displays via DisplayPort or the single link DVI port at the same time.
 
Monkey God said:
Got one of the crossovers from ebay...amazing shipping time. So far so good, but my card wont allow any other monitors connected at the same time. I don't remember seeing any limitations like that in my research.
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I have a "standard" 6950 2gb and run a Shimian from the dual link dvi and a 720 projector from the single link without any problems. Unless your other monitors are over 1080 resolution, you shouldn't have a problem running any of them.
 
can anyone who is using ANY of these monitors with a Mac - using an Apple minidisplayport to dual link dvi cable - please report their success/problems.
Some auctions (specifically the seller green-sum about Crossover models) say NOT to use with a Mac and NOT to use with displayport convertors.
Some feedback on this could save a lot of hassle for Mac users like myself, thanks ...
 
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