Grrrrrr...Galaxy Nexus screen cracked. Galaxy S3 time?

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So I was just surfing the web on my Gnex, and thought there was a hair on it. I ran my finger nail lightly across the screen, and the "hair" is actually a crack that runs from the top right corner all the way to the bottom left corner. I have no freaking idea how this happened. I have it in a clamshell case. I dropped it a couple months ago, but immediately checked the screen and it was good. I guess it must have cracked up in corner where I couldn't see it, and completely cracked in the last day or so. And it's a deep crack too. In one corner there is a small gap. I foresee moisture becoming an issue pretty quick.

The only complaint I've ever had with this phone was that the screen wasn't gorilla glass and was cheaply made. It already had several scratches that a gorilla glass screen would have never gotten. Looks like the crappy screen finally bit me in the ass.

So now I'm researching the Galaxy S3. I had no interest in it before now, but just the first few articles I've read today critics are raving on how good that phone is. What's everyone's opinions on the GSIII?

Also, are we still able to upgrade phones on Verizon and keep our unlimited data, or has that new "pay full price to keep unlimited" taken effect yet?
 
Good thing with the Galaxy S3 is that it can be rooted fairly easily and quickly, after it's been out a short while. And CM9 is already said to be working on it, so if you get the S3, I say root it, and install CM9, and will feel just like your Nexus, but even faster, due to better hardware and more RAM, and for sure better battery life.

Was wondering, if you install CM9 on a S3, can the bottom middle home button still be used to activate / wake the phone ? Or is that only allowed through the stock Touchwizz ROM ?
 
Zorachus said:
Good thing with the Galaxy S3 is that it can be rooted fairly easily and quickly, after it's been out a short while. And CM9 is already said to be working on it, so if you get the S3, I say root it, and install CM9, and will feel just like your Nexus, but even faster, due to better hardware and more RAM, and for sure better battery life.
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I just preordered one. Had to preorder it before 6/28 in order to keep my unlimited data. Honestly, I'm burned out on ROM's and crack flashing. I just want it to work. I doubt I'll change a thing except root it.
 
Zorachus said:
Good thing with the Galaxy S3 is that it can be rooted fairly easily and quickly, after it's been out a short while. And CM9 is already said to be working on it, so if you get the S3, I say root it, and install CM9, and will feel just like your Nexus, but even faster, due to better hardware and more RAM, and for sure better battery life.

Was wondering, if you install CM9 on a S3, can the bottom middle home button still be used to activate / wake the phone ? Or is that only allowed through the stock Touchwizz ROM ?
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That's for the international.

For the US/Canadian versions, root was just achieved (though in a kind of roundabout way), no CM work or roms whatsoever have been released (First one for AT&T should be later today), and CM/AOSP is a ways off.

Still, it's an amazing device. Love mine.
 
entropism said:
That's for the international.

For the US/Canadian versions, root was just achieved (though in a kind of roundabout way), no CM work or roms whatsoever have been released (First one for AT&T should be later today), and CM/AOSP is a ways off.

Still, it's an amazing device. Love mine.
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So only the international has official root and AOSP ROM's ?
 
Zorachus said:
So only the international has official root and AOSP ROM's ?
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Since it hasn't been fully released in the U.S yet., I wouldn't expect to see development take off for a while. I can tell you that the dev community is excited by the phone, and I expect it to be at least as popular as the Gnex as far as roms and customization go. The devs that made the best Gnex roms were mostly Verizon users, and the GS3 doesn't release for Verizon until 7/11.
 
Zorachus said:
So only the international has official root and AOSP ROM's ?
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What exactly is "official" root? Root was achieved but it's kind of sloppy right now. And no, the US versions don't have AOSP roms. They don't have roms PERIOD right now.

Edit: Sorry, T-Mobile has a single ROM, basically the stock rom with the bloat removed. Nothing you can't do with 2 minutes and titanium backup or root explorer.

Edit 2: Sorry, that rom hasn't been released yet. The guy is still looking for coding help.
 
Zorachus said:
So only the international has official root and AOSP ROM's ?
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I just read that the devs for AOKP, which is the best rom for the GNEX in my opinion, are already working on a ROM. I also read that Franco's Kernel will be out for the S3 soon as well. Looks like the S3 will be replacing the Gnex as the ROM/MOD community golden boy.

I loved my Nexus for ROMS and stuff, but I always hated the cheap ass screen....

Now I need to find a good clamshell/holster for the S3..
 
Zorachus said:
Good thing with the Galaxy S3 is that it can be rooted fairly easily and quickly, after it's been out a short while. And CM9 is already said to be working on it, so if you get the S3, I say root it, and install CM9, and will feel just like your Nexus, but even faster, due to better hardware and more RAM, and for sure better battery life.
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The international GS3s, the ones that have custom ROMs don't have 2GB of RAM... only 1GB, like the GN
 
Shark974 said:
According to this http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...snt-have-gorilla-glass-but-its-not-a-problem/

It doesnt matter that the gnex didnt have gorrilla glass.
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My wife got her IPhone 4S at the same time I got my Gnex. My screen has several scratches and is now broken. Hers is pristine still. And my 4 year old plays with hers all day, and isn't allowed to touch my Gnex. I had a Droid X for 2 years and not a single imperfection on the screen. Only had the Gnex since last winter, and the screen is fucked. And that's having it in a clamshell case 95% of the time. I'm amazed at how easily the screen got scratched.

Take it as you will.
 
I agree with officer's experience. I used to have a Droid Incredible that was about four months old, and I owned it for another 13 months before I dropped it and the LCD broke. Up until the day that I sold it for parts, the glass was absolutely flawless.

Same story with a Droid X2 that I just got and sold. The screen was absolutely flawless. I don't know how long the previous owner had it, so I can't say that it had any kind of longevity.

But when you consider that 2/2 phones that I've owned have had flawless glass and Gorilla Glass, I feel the same way that you do officer. It seems to perform really well, almost to a fault. LOL the LCD broke before the glass did.
 
I never understood how people scratched up their phones so much, to be honest. Now, I prefer the tactile feel of the iPhone's glass over whatever polycarbonate they use for the latest Android phones, but I don't think I ever scratched a screen in my life. Are you guys putting it in your pocket with keys, or do you walk around with fistfuls of sand in your pockets or what? :p

That being said, I had a GNex since international release, and the screen was flawless. In fact, that was one of the better screens I've ever had.
 
entropism said:
I never understood how people scratched up their phones so much, to be honest. Now, I prefer the tactile feel of the iPhone's glass over whatever polycarbonate they use for the latest Android phones, but I don't think I ever scratched a screen in my life. Are you guys putting it in your pocket with keys, or do you walk around with fistfuls of sand in your pockets or what? :p

That being said, I had a GNex since international release, and the screen was flawless. In fact, that was one of the better screens I've ever had.
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Like I stated, it was in a clamshell case all the time. How did it get scratched? I have no idea honestly. Only thing I can think is that the case itself did some of the scratch when I'd slide it into the holster. My son may have scratched it on the few occasions he used it as well. I've never had a phone screen get scratched before this one. And I went from Iphone -> Droid X -> Gnex.

And I dropped it from about 3 feet and apparently started the cracking process, which of course has went all the way across the screen now.
 
Damn, get your friend to hook me up with an upgrade after 6 months into my current contract (with my Gnex too)! :p
 
Nexus phones have had problems in the past with screen quality, no idea what the deal is.

EDIT: By screen i mean glass.
 
officer921 said:
Since it hasn't been fully released in the U.S yet., I wouldn't expect to see development take off for a while. I can tell you that the dev community is excited by the phone, and I expect it to be at least as popular as the Gnex as far as roms and customization go. The devs that made the best Gnex roms were mostly Verizon users, and the GS3 doesn't release for Verizon until 7/11.
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It will be popular but the galaxy nexus will still have the most development because its very easy to develop for the hardware (omap vs snapdragon/exynos). Also all the versions of the nexus are essentially the same other than the radios. The US galaxy siii is completely different from the international one. Also when jellybean comes out google will release the source code for the nexus so there won't be much guesswork. Who knows how long it will take for the galaxy s3 to receive jellybean and then they have to get aosp working on it. The snapdragon lte modems are very hard to get an ril working for them.
 
Well, canceled my GSIII preorder. The crack on my screen is glass only, and isn't bad enough to warrant a new phone. Plus, I know as soon as I buy a GSIII they will release a badass new Nexus phone and I'll have major buyers remorse.

Hurry up with the new Nexus phone Google!!!
 
Ive noticed that after a trip to the beach, it seems as though if you use your phone at all with any sand particles on your fingers you will scratch the screen. I somehow got a bunch of little fine scratches on mine right after i got back from the beach and the only way I can see them is if the sun is glaring on the screen. So now I am even more careful with my nexus. I dont want to lose my unlimited plan for at least a year and a half.
 
I'm beginning to see that the glass on the GNex is far far less durable than my Droid Incredible's screen. I'm not exactly scratching at it with keys or sandy fingers, but its easy to drop keys into the wrong pocket absent-mindedly. The fact that I have to worry about this now is frustrating, since my DInc's screen went 2+ years with only one noticeable scratch (yes, there are a few very minor nicks here and there). I hate the feeling of plastic screen protectors, so I'm waiting on the glass one from XGear, but its looking like I've picked up several new scratches in the meantime :mad:
 
sok0 said:
Ive noticed that after a trip to the beach, it seems as though if you use your phone at all with any sand particles on your fingers you will scratch the screen. I somehow got a bunch of little fine scratches on mine right after i got back from the beach and the only way I can see them is if the sun is glaring on the screen. So now I am even more careful with my nexus. I dont want to lose my unlimited plan for at least a year and a half.
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Sand/silica is harder than glass (gorilla or non simian variety), so yes, it will scratch the surface.
 
you do realise that gorilla glass gets scratches as well? My Captivate somehow acquired a few scratches.

Imho plastic is still better, doesn't crack like glass I honestly don't have a problem with using a screen protector. Besides , you can quite easily buff scratches out of glass anyway
 
Gorilla glass doesn't mean shit, it's a damn marketing term, that's it. I have had 2 different phones with it and each got scratches on it. It all depends on what's inside your pocket or where ever you put it. Sand will destroy a phone screen easily, I'm sure plenty other things will too.
 
Bman123 said:
Gorilla glass doesn't mean shit, it's a damn marketing term, that's it. I have had 2 different phones with it and each got scratches on it. It all depends on what's inside your pocket or where ever you put it. Sand will destroy a phone screen easily, I'm sure plenty other things will too.
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yes of course its a marketing term.. its Corning's brand of fortified glass, but that doesn't mean that its not a quality product. I'm sure you buy a lot of products in everyday life that are based on brand-recognition, why would a $200+ cell phone with a 2 year contract be any different? Clearly whatever no-name "equivalent" samsung used on the GNex doesn't perform as well as Gorilla Glass.
 
The screen on the Galaxy Nexus is actually just like Gorilla Glass. Nexus is their premier line. So you can expect the best of the best. The Galaxy Nexus has tempered glass which is what gorilla glass is. Gorilla Glass is just a brand name. Since your screen is cracked, take your door key and run it along the glass, and don't be shy, push hard. You will notice the glass doesn't scratch. The glass on the Nexus is also treated with an anti-finger print chemical. It's not 100% but does elevate some of the problems associated with greasing your screen up.
 
SixFootDuo said:
The screen on the Galaxy Nexus is actually just like Gorilla Glass. Nexus is their premier line. So you can expect the best of the best. The Galaxy Nexus has tempered glass which is what gorilla glass is. Gorilla Glass is just a brand name. Since your screen is cracked, take your door key and run it along the glass, and don't be shy, push hard. You will notice the glass doesn't scratch. The glass on the Nexus is also treated with an anti-finger print chemical. It's not 100% but does elevate some of the problems associated with greasing your screen up.
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Read my post again. Just because the alternative is the "same" (i.e. they're both "tempered glass") doesn't mean it was made with the exact same process or the exact same glass composition, both of which can impact the performance characteristics. Everything is just a brand name. "Seasonic" is "just a brand name", but that doesn't mean that i'm going to buy a crummy PSU because they're both "power supplies"
 
I've had the same idea as Activate: AMD for a while now, that GG is not just your average potassium-infused fortified glass. But look at this short article and accompanying video about GG.

In the article it explains that regular sheets of glass are dipped in a bath of molten potassium. That's the only detail it gives about the changes that Corning makes to regular glass for it to become GG. If this is really all they do, surely other companies can make a similar quality of potassium-infused glass, no?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375657,00.asp

TLDR version: Is GG a trademark or is it a patent? Apparently it is closer to a trademark.
 
XacTactX said:
I've had the same idea as Activate: AMD for a while now, that GG is not just your average potassium-infused fortified glass. But look at this short article and accompanying video about GG.

In the article it explains that regular sheets of glass are dipped in a bath of molten potassium. That's the only detail it gives about the changes that Corning makes to regular glass for it to become GG. If this is really all they do, surely other companies can make a similar quality of potassium-infused glass, no?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375657,00.asp

TLDR version: Is GG a trademark or is it a patent? Apparently it is closer to a trademark.
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Obviously I have no idea for sure, but why would they disclose a proprietary process if they don't have to? Just because its not patented, doesn't mean they don't have some kind of secret sauce. Don't confuse patent or trademarked with proprietary or trade secret. The Coca Cola formula isn't patented either
 
I agree they probably wouldn't disclose the actual proprietary process, but usually at least they tell you that they do something else in addition to the stuff they DO show. Coca Cola hasn't told us the exact formula but we do KNOW there is a secret sauce. Same thing with those government videos about opium that explain how to make heroin from opium. They usually cut out a few of the key steps, but they do tell the audience that they're going to skip some information.

Then again, GG could be an exception to the norm, so "I have no idea for sure" either. :)
 
I think you're allowing your emotions to betray what common sense you have. If you think the S3 is a great "PSU" and the Galaxy Nexus is a "crap" PSU. You couldn't be farther from, well, you pick your own analogy again. They are both pretty high end "PSU's"

To argue over that is just silly. They are both light years ahead of what was out there and in many cases, better than current phones. It's actually a moot point if you know anything about emerging phone tech. There are several "gorilla glass" type products on the market and / or coming on to the market shortly.

Do a little research into electronics, and the branding and you quickly discover just about all of them have the same features but different names for those features. I.E. Gorilla Glass.

I really hate to see people, especially these kids out there get hung up on branding like they do with Beats by Dr. Dre.

I was just trying to make you feel better about your unfortunate situation is all by sharing a few facts.
 
All these clamshell cases are garbage, they are rigid so they don't absorb any force from the impact and they usually leave marks on the phone. What probably happened was that you had your phone in your back pocket and sat down and what the clamshell case did was to exert a lot of force in 1 point of the phone. May be it didn't happen to you but i have seen it happen to friends having phones from clamshell cases bought at the mall or ebay.
 
Just get a screen protector if you have a habit of scratching the screen. There are a few nice ones.
 
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