Windows Phone 7.8

gotta say iam surprised and dissapoointed that OS 8 wont work on phones less then a year old.. Thats said its for a good reason atleast

DirectX

Will make for some easy and good game making for the phone.

Now I know why they have basically been giving the phones away. Asusmption is to get peopel to the team for free then hope they pay for the next phone.
 
I just want better navigation integration, like google maps on android. 8 gets Nokia maps as default, I really wish they make it available to us 7.8 users.
 
actually we do

win 8 start screen

tile customization

windows update to update phone.
 
groebuck said:
actually we do

win 8 start screen

tile customization

windows update to update phone.
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Exactly. Not too much to it, but a nice little gesture to the early adopters. Though, maybe that gesture is actually a middle finger. Whatever, I'm happy to get what I'm getting.
 
Windows Mobile = killed
Kin = killed
Windows Phone 7 = killed
Windows Phone 8 = ?
 
Would go back and quote all the guys that totally insisted that they somehow knew that there would be an upgrade path... but i'm just too damn lazy to do that tonight :(
 
Be a good thought for them to work out a deal with AT&T to cut wp7 users upgrade wait in half so those of us who bought last year ( i paid 1 cent for my Titan so i cant bitch to much)get a chance to upgrade in the fall or winter.
 
I feel for you Lumia 900 owners. This new version of WP8 actually looks reasonable usable. I was thinking of grabbing a Lumia as a backup to my GS3 but I just can't see it now until we see what the new hardware will look like. I have to admit though, a WP8 device with a 720 screen should be stunning, given how nice the Metro layout always was on the phones.
 
I still have Gingerbread devices that are great, just because a new OS is out doesn't make the old one shit. Windows 7/Windows 8 parallel anyone? Is Win7 shit now that Win8 is out? People are unrealistic. I got the 900 on launch day knowing this might happen, I've enjoyed it since, I'll continue to enjoy it when WP8 launches. I might sell it and I might keep it till a lot of WP8 devices hit the market. The 7.8 update is a bonus and I'm happy for it. The thing that gets me is how people love WP so much that they are mad they won't get WP8. So what do they do? They leave the platform they profess to love deeply for other platforms that are just as inconsistent with updates. That's logic for you.
 
Does it not set a dangerous precedent that they are willing to do this though? I know people bash Apple, but they do at least offer legacy support for a few years. I think at least for PR, they could have updated these new devices to "WP8" and just cut features, rather than calling it something else. Maybe it just scares people.
 
Except the older iphones didn't get all the new features. Instead of putting a crippled verison of 8 on the phones,there calling it 7.8. It's just a name change. Still better than the update support with android, difference being these phones will actually get the update. No where near as bad a shaft apple gave to iphone 4 users, but hey lets play the bash MS game, it's so much fun!
 
It's not that MS is phasing out support for older devices that is the problem; that's to be expected; it's that when the Lumia 900 launched as flagship just a few months ago; everyone that mentioned the low hardware specs was derided "It's a new platform, specs don't matter"; and an OS update 8 months later won't run on the "flagship" device. Android is arguably the worst with fragmentation; and the correlation to the Lumia would be the Nexus One, which was officially supported for 20 months (ICS probably won't get an official update; though there will be a cm9 port).

Is it the end of the world? No; if you aren't happy with what you get day 1; don't buy it as expecting updates is always a gamble; but it is setting a poor precedent that was foreseen (And those who mentioned it mere months ago were shouted down for doing so)
 
Not sure about the new platform part, 7.5 was months and months old, the lumia 800 was released in nov 2011, which is was the 900 is based off of. Everything thinking the 900 and 7.5 was a new platform are idiots. Specs didn't matter because it performed just as good if not better in regular activities.
 
Worminater said:
It's not that MS is phasing out support for older devices that is the problem; that's to be expected; it's that when the Lumia 900 launched as flagship just a few months ago; everyone that mentioned the low hardware specs was derided "It's a new platform, specs don't matter"; and an OS update 8 months later won't run on the "flagship" device. Android is arguably the worst with fragmentation; and the correlation to the Lumia would be the Nexus One, which was officially supported for 20 months (ICS probably won't get an official update; though there will be a cm9 port).

Is it the end of the world? No; if you aren't happy with what you get day 1; don't buy it as expecting updates is always a gamble; but it is setting a poor precedent that was foreseen (And those who mentioned it mere months ago were shouted down for doing so)
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They did get the phone for $99 or less too... Complain about that!
 
zzDarkwingDuck said:
Not sure about the new platform part, 7.5 was months and months old, the lumia 800 was released in nov 2011, which is was the 900 is based off of. Everything thinking the 900 and 7.5 was a new platform are idiots. Specs didn't matter because it performed just as good if not better in regular activities.
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That was never the contention. Specs *DO* matter for third party apps and future compatibility; which was derided with, "it's a new platform, that won't happen" when I brought it up at the Lumia 900 launch.

CHANG3D said:
They did get the phone for $99 or less too... Complain about that!
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And a Galaxy Nexus is $0.01 on amazon with dual core and expected 20 month support cycle . No one ever said 900 wasn't a good deal; just that specs/future outlook was poor for a "Flagship" device. Even microsofts "From this point forward, 18 month support" announcement is a mirror of a similar Google announcement from a 10 months ago.
 
I have original WP7 launch devices as well as a 900 and the "experience" is about 90% the same minus the screen size. So was it really a "flagship" device or just a little better? Don't get me wrong, I love the 900. But I recognized it was just a little faster than the others and still roughly the same device.
 
Perhaps nokia will be giving more to you Lumia owners

In fact, Nokia US on Twitter yesterday noted that besides the new Start screen "Other elements aren't being disclosed at this time" which leads us to believe there may be yet more to come for Windows Phone 7.8.
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I was somewhat bothered by this announcement initially, but after some thought I can't really say I have anything to complain about. I've had my HD7 for about a year now, which along with setting a precedent for me in terms of phone ownership (I used to switch phones every couple of months, if that), has served me without issue, something I can't claim for the various Android phones I had previously (though the Nexus One comes close). I mean, at least we are by and large getting updates, versus the myriad of Android phones that get stuck with whatever they're released with, often arbitrarily.

That said, I can see how people who just got a Windows Phone, or the Lumia 900 in particular, might be a bit peeved. It's hard to dismiss the feelings of abandonment by Microsoft/Nokia so soon after getting what is at least perceived as a flagship-class phone, even if it isn't actually getting abandoned. The hardest pill to swallow I think even for me now, regardless of the hardware/platform reasons, is the fact that we won't be able to run WP8 apps even after getting 7.8, rendering 7.8 essentially a superficial update.

At this point I just hope Nokia's able to pull through this, as I want to be able to get a Nokia-branded Windows Phone when WP8 launches. That and a Surface Pro. Tiles! Tiles! Everywhere, tiles! :p
 
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After 6 months of nearly no news on this update, it looks like existing WP7 users will be getting WP 7.8 in the coming days and weeks.

http://youtu.be/u14y6MpLEYU

It won't be anything super-fantastic, but as a Windows Phone 7.5 user, I'll be glad to get a little something.
 
Got my update last within the last 24 hours. It's quite refreshing to be able to now resize your tiles. :) I have a Lumia 900 on AT&T and had to do the cable trick to force update my phone. A lot of other people have been able to get it on their non-Nokia devices.
 
Many global users are able to use the cable trick to force the update via the zune software.

Still can't on my Verizon HTC Trophy.
 
For those wondering, this is the "cable trick".

I couldn't get it to work last night, but it could just be that T-Mobile simply didn't have the update yet. Hopefully it will go through today after work.
 
I just upgrade one of my dell venue pro to 7.8 and works great. I did the update by forceing it thru zone. What's weird is the other venue pro I have I could not get it to udate and is same model phone and same subscription to family mobile. Weird I try again tomarrow with other phone maybe some timer or something I don't know wtf going on lol.
 
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