diablo 3 accounts hacked

Climber said:
I havent seen a single person in here running DC for Blizzard. Just because someone doesn't believe every single poster on the internet doesn't mean they are Blizzard fanboys and sycophants. Some people just want clarification which is a reasonable request to ask for since everyone's accounts are at risk. Considering every single person who has claimed on the bnet forums to have been hacked with an authenticator has been shown to have lied or added one after the hack occured it isn't such a stretch to assume people are trolling and asking for clarification is only reasonable, unless of course you have an axe to grind then it is completely unreasonable to ask for clarification.
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If someone says "you can't get hacked with an authenticator cause bliz said so" then asks for clarification...they aren't really looking for clarification.
 
Oomps said:
If someone says "you can't get hacked with an authenticator cause bliz said so" then asks for clarification...they aren't really looking for clarification.
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I would be. Why does some random forum guy get a free pass from providing proof? :confused:
 
Climber said:
I would be. Why does some random forum guy get a free pass from providing proof? :confused:
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If you make the statement that you can't get hacked with the authenticator then you aren't going to believe them anyway was my point.
 
My opinion is that linking this crap all together was what exposed everyone to brute force attacks. And making email addresses visible in the forums is what started this whole shit back in WoW. I got fished once because I was drunk emailing, but other than that, I put on the authenticator and haven't had a problem since, that and gmail finally got a handle with their filters where I never see those emails in my inbox anymore.

My bet is that 90% of hacks are fishing hacks and/or just some rootkit/keylogger that their shitty antivirus isn't picking up. That's not to say there may not be some circumstances where the box is clean, but I'm willing to bet there may be other areas that are not thought about that not everyone is being straight about, such as perhaps logging into someone else machine that's Pr0n infested or using one of those trackng websites or Facebook widgets where you link your account to see how your guild is ranking or something in another game.

All this lunatic fringe is about is that the game is the suck. Period. And it isn't even that bad, its just people are on the rampage about it. I got it for free for re-upping WoW so I have no vested interest in it. Blizzard should take some of the blame when they went to real id's and shit like that, but I think the Authenticator is pretty solid.
 
A Journalist at Forbes gets his D3 account hacked

On the second page is an update which goes into more detail. His PC isn't compromised; he wasn't using an authenticator; only the last character he had logged in was stripped; that character was one of his minor characters; his other characters, which had much better stuff, were untouched.

We have a battle going here in this forum between those who are criticizing victims for not using authenticators and those who are criticizing the game for needing an authenticator. The author of the Forbes article brings up a very good point:

If an authenticator is necessary to keep your account secure, then why are they optional?
 
evilsofa said:
A Journalist at Forbes gets his D3 account hacked

On the second page is an update which goes into more detail. His PC isn't compromised; he wasn't using an authenticator; only the last character he had logged in was stripped; that character was one of his minor characters; his other characters, which had much better stuff, were untouched.

We have a battle going here in this forum between those who are criticizing victims for not using authenticators and those who are criticizing the game for needing an authenticator. The author of the Forbes article brings up a very good point:

If an authenticator is necessary to keep your account secure, then why are they optional?
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Great post. And I agree with what he says here:

Forbes said:
- Yes, my computer is constantly scanned for malware. There are many more valuable passwords and accounts than just my Diablo profile floating around in my PC that could be compromised by a keylogger or trojan. None of those have been.
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My WOW account was hacked and emptied something like 6-8 months after I had last logged in. No, I did not have an authenticator. No, I didn't click on any stupid e-mails...I run a fraud department for crissakes. In the same 6-8 month period I logged into 4-5 different banking websites, another 1-2 retirement plan websites, all of which would have been VASTLY more lucrative to a potential hacker than the 12k gold and BC level mats I had on my WOW toons.

Although I do feel the argument that Blizzard/B.net/WOW/D3 is big enough that it will be targeted more frequently by hackers, the amount of compromises that they have is incredibly suspicious, particularly when it is my friends and guildmates getting hit who are fairly computer savvy.


PS: Blizzard, if you want to hire someone with experience in transaction monitoring, fraud & AML give me a call...working for a game company would be so much more fun! :D
 
mine was hacked right after the latest patch went live

Yes, I have authenticator.

And it sucks when some support rep tells me that I can only have 2 rollbacks in my life due to THEIR shoddy security.

There shouldn't be ANY rollbacks because their shouldn't be any god damn hacking and stripping of characters! The whole DRM scheme that was hated but promised to end things like this.... yeah right, look what happened.

I was only annoyed that I paid 60 dollars for this before the hack... now? I'm flat pissed.


to the RIAA/MPAA/and any other piracy groups that want to know WHY piracy happens? Diablo3 is your perfect case study. Do you think I will *EVER* spend any more money on a Blizzard title? Hell to the no.


I'm sure if there is a hacked copy of D3 running on private servers -- you stand an equal (maybe less) chance of getting hacked. Who knows.

I'm just sad that trying to be legitimate and buying legal software has reminded me of just how crappy such a concept is.
 
collegeboy69us said:
mine was hacked right after the latest patch went live

Yes, I have authenticator.

And it sucks when some support rep tells me that I can only have 2 rollbacks in my life due to THEIR shoddy security.

There shouldn't be ANY rollbacks because their shouldn't be any god damn hacking and stripping of characters! The whole DRM scheme that was hated but promised to end things like this.... yeah right, look what happened..
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Their online requirement is not to prevent hacking of accounts. I don't understand why people think that.

If I may ask in the hopes that you will answer....

You have an authenticator, couple questions:

1. For how long have you had it?

2. What type is it - physical, mobile, dial-in?

3. What did Blizzard say about the fact that your account was hacked/compromised with an authenticator attached?


This is not me trying to be some Blizzard police or whatever. These are reasonable questions form someone concerned about the security of their account. The more information you can provide the better it is for the community.

Thanks.
 
evilsofa said:
A Journalist at Forbes gets his D3 account hacked

On the second page is an update which goes into more detail. His PC isn't compromised; he wasn't using an authenticator; only the last character he had logged in was stripped; that character was one of his minor characters; his other characters, which had much better stuff, were untouched.

We have a battle going here in this forum between those who are criticizing victims for not using authenticators and those who are criticizing the game for needing an authenticator. The author of the Forbes article brings up a very good point:

If an authenticator is necessary to keep your account secure, then why are they optional?
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I said that a while ago and people just ranted about how they were free for smart phones and only $7 for a physical.

Authentication should be a built in feature if this is such an issue.
 
collegeboy69us said:
mine was hacked right after the latest patch went live

Yes, I have authenticator.

And it sucks when some support rep tells me that I can only have 2 rollbacks in my life due to THEIR shoddy security.

There shouldn't be ANY rollbacks because their shouldn't be any god damn hacking and stripping of characters! The whole DRM scheme that was hated but promised to end things like this.... yeah right, look what happened.
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I'm interested in this as well. If you have an authenticator and had it in use, then this should be front page news on a couple gaming sites.
 
Neb said:
I just wanted to comment on the "Journalist" part...."Forbes contributors" are essentially blogs that are hosted on the Forbes site. They are compensated for their content, but there really isn't much involvement with Forbes other than that. I would not add any authority to the Forbes portion of the title or site :)
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Should check out some of the comments and links to forum posts. Good stuff. I think there's even a blue post in there. I need to check it out when I get home as it's blocked at work.
 
evilsofa said:
If an authenticator is necessary to keep your account secure, then why are they optional?
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TheMadHatterXxX said:
That's only part of the issue. They should have made it mandatory for all accounts from day one...maybe the authenticator does prevent unauthorized access but if your email address and password have been stolen then logging into Diablo3 is probably the least of your concerns as you better hope you're not using them for anything else that you deem important.
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;) .
 
To clarify for anyone not wanting to click the links straight away. These are blue posts in response to authenticators and the like being compromised.

Thread: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149542352?page=1

Post #6 first page
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149542352?page=1#6

Post #99 page 5
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149542352?page=5#99

Post #111 page 6
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149542352?page=6#111

Post #122 page 8
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149542352?page=7#122
 
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thx for those blue posts. got the game today and got the mobile authenticator. dont want to put hours into this game and lose it all from hackers....
 
Oomps said:
What is the concrete cause of the hackings? I can't believe that there are so much cases, i highly doubt most of those can be attributed to the victim's downloading apps and stuff.

Well, the cause is people desiring a shortcut in their games by buying gold.​

If you can't be part of the solution, become part of the problem.
Diablo 3 real money auction house aiming for June 12
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LOL Blizzard...what a fucking company. Looks like their next tactic is accusing everyone of buying gold from sketchy sites which led to accounts being compromised.
 
TwistedAegis said:
Similar situation happened to me, about 6-8 months of quitting WoW my account get hacked. There was something different though, I thought it was fake e-mails that were saying my account was compromised because I tried logging in but I couldn't because there was no payment plan. I checked the history and there hadn't been any time added to my account since I had last played. So how the fuck did they strip my wow characters without re-activating my account? I never had anything suspicious fraudulent come up from other institutions/games during the same period.

Point of the post is, I'm thinking it's both sides fault. People being lazy and buying gold on websites, etc. Using the dial-in "authenticator" which is super shitty as the blizz reps have said and is supposed to be used in conjunction with an actual authenticator. But also something going on on their end, if my wow account could be hacked without having time added to it at all. Then D3 accounts could probably be hacked.
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TheMadHatterXxX said:
LOL Blizzard...what a fucking company. Looks like their next tactic is accusing everyone of buying gold from sketchy sites which led to accounts being compromised.
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Isn't that exactly what they wanted from the auction house? Although I understand where he's coming from, it's like the pot calling the kettle black.
 
TheMadHatterXxX said:
LOL Blizzard...what a fucking company. Looks like their next tactic is accusing everyone of buying gold from sketchy sites which led to accounts being compromised.
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Right? Also, think about it from the gold sellers POV - if I have a paying customer, WHY would I hack them, of all people? I know they will probably come back and buy more gold from me in the future.

Also, gold exchange isn't this huge shady deal...you pay, they show up in game and trade it to you. Really isn't that much of an elevated risk of being hacked.
 
TheMadHatterXxX said:
LOL Blizzard...what a fucking company. Looks like their next tactic is accusing everyone of buying gold from sketchy sites which led to accounts being compromised.
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Didn't you get a refund? Still posting about a game you don't own/play anymore?
 
TwistedAegis said:
Right? Also, think about it from the gold sellers POV - if I have a paying customer, WHY would I hack them, of all people? I know they will probably come back and buy more gold from me in the future.

Also, gold exchange isn't this huge shady deal...you pay, they show up in game and trade it to you. Really isn't that much of an elevated risk of being hacked.
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If anything, they would be making minor fraudulent charges to people's credit cards.
 
TwistedAegis said:
Right? Also, think about it from the gold sellers POV - if I have a paying customer, WHY would I hack them, of all people? I know they will probably come back and buy more gold from me in the future.

Also, gold exchange isn't this huge shady deal...you pay, they show up in game and trade it to you. Really isn't that much of an elevated risk of being hacked.
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Is that like a legitimate prostitute? "I can't believe she stole from me, I'm a paying customer!"
 
I got hacked sometime between last night and tonight. I've never played WoW. I've never bought gold. I don't download anything illegally or from untrusted sites. I don't web browse sketchy sites. I keep my PC clean of any spyware or viruses. I am convinced it's an inside job.
 
SBSuperfly said:
I got hacked sometime between last night and tonight. I've never played WoW. I've never bought gold. I don't download anything illegally or from untrusted sites. I don't web browse sketchy sites. I keep my PC clean of any spyware or viruses. I am convinced it's an inside job.
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You don't have to click on those emails or go to sketchy websites. I'm sure you keep a clean PC just like everyone else here who has gotten hacked has. But have you ever signed up to a websites forums? Have you ever used the same name across multiple forums/sites/accounts? Worse yet, have you made it easy and used the same password on those sights? I know I have created numbers of forum accounts across the last 10 years or so that I don't even visit anymore, and its entirely possible some of that information was lost/stolen/sold...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5271503297
 
Dallows said:
Didn't you get a refund? Still posting about a game you don't own/play anymore?
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Awww does it hurt you that I'm talking bad about Blizzard, you delusional fanboi, you.

Yes I did get my refund processed...but I'm sticking around because:
A.) Still my personal info at risk out there and I'd like to know the extend of their security breach.
B.) This fucking soap opera is hella interesting and the more Blizzard denies responsibility the more entertaining it gets.

I love how there's so many starstruck brown-nosers in that thread on the blizzard forums just getting their vag's wet from engaging a "blue" in the thread. Imagine the pride they must be feeling.
 
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ob1 said:
You don't have to click on those emails or go to sketchy websites. I'm sure you keep a clean PC just like everyone else here who has gotten hacked has. But have you ever signed up to a websites forums? Have you ever used the same name across multiple forums/sites/accounts? Worse yet, have you made it easy and used the same password on those sights? I know I have created numbers of forum accounts across the last 10 years or so that I don't even visit anymore, and its entirely possible some of that information was lost/stolen/sold...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5271503297
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my battle.net password was completely unique.
 
TheMadHatterXxX said:
Awww does it hurt you that I'm talking bad about Blizzard, you delusional fanboi, you.

Yes I did get my refund processed...but I'm sticking around because:
A.) Still my personal info at risk out there and I'd like to know the extend of their security breach.
B.) This fucking soap opera is hella interesting and the more Blizzard denies responsibility the more entertaining it gets.
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Are you 14?
 
TheMadHatterXxX said:
B.) This fucking soap opera is hella interesting and the more Blizzard denies responsibility the more entertaining it gets.
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That's what I'm here for. The demise of SWTOR was a laugh a minute, but it seems like Blizzard is trying to top them. My popcorn is ready.

It's got all the makings of a great video game drama:

  • Devoutly religious fanbase that defends Activision-Blizzard at any cost, complete with forum attacks against unbelievers and delusions that defy all logic.
  • Buggy systems
  • Security issues
  • Frequent and arrogant denials of any issues by Activision-Blizzard
  • Activision-Blizzard accusing its fanbase of being uninformed idiots and/or cheaters in response to the fanbase bringing up security issues
 
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Is everyone that is hacked only seeing items being stripped from the character that was last logged in? If so, it's interesting to me that other characters on that account with better stuff are not being touched. It makes me think the hackers are getting in without being able to access the character select screen, which in turn makes me think they've found a way to obtain limited access that doesn't involve passwords or the authenticator process at all.
 
evilsofa said:
Is everyone that is hacked only seeing items being stripped from the character that was last logged in? If so, it's interesting to me that other characters on that account with better stuff are not being touched. It makes me think the hackers are getting in without being able to access the character select screen, which in turn makes me think they've found a way to obtain limited access that doesn't involve passwords or the authenticator process at all.
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I have thought this as well, would explain how fast they are able to do it. It could even be on a prompt level where they can transfer a characters equipment via script to another one that they will log in with and sell the stuff.
 
evilsofa said:
Is everyone that is hacked only seeing items being stripped from the character that was last logged in? If so, it's interesting to me that other characters on that account with better stuff are not being touched. It makes me think the hackers are getting in without being able to access the character select screen, which in turn makes me think they've found a way to obtain limited access that doesn't involve passwords or the authenticator process at all.
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Well for me it was last logged in and the account-shared chest.
 
I only had one character. That character was completely stripped. Maybe 2 or 3 items were left in my inventory. My stash still had some of my gems, but all the crafting materials and most of the gear was gone. They didn't touch the second tab of my stash (the one that required 100k to purchase). I guess they overlooked that. Also they didn't touch my scoundrel, enchantress, or templar.

i noticed 3 new names show up on my recent players list after i got hacked: xererer, Romeisbak, Olarad
 
evilsofa said:
Is everyone that is hacked only seeing items being stripped from the character that was last logged in? If so, it's interesting to me that other characters on that account with better stuff are not being touched. It makes me think the hackers are getting in without being able to access the character select screen, which in turn makes me think they've found a way to obtain limited access that doesn't involve passwords or the authenticator process at all.
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Then why haven't accounts with authenticators been compromised?
 
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