Diablo III is getting killed on Metacritic

dremic said:
thats why its not an esport. who cares if people buy items it doesnt effect you. the game is for playing not for competing. they did fix duping, items are now server side :D
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Then why care about dupes?
 
_PixelNinja said:
I might be wrong but I don't think it's a sentiment of surprise, but more one of disappointment in that it has handicapped a lot of players. People were expecting, considering Blizzard's experience with WoW, that the online component would have worked out smoother than it did thus far. That being said I would tend to agree -- the issues were to be expected.
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WoW week one was a night mare. Seriously outside of day 1 and 2 has been smooth sailing so far.
 
Yeah, that's kind of the thing. If you played SP D2 you didn't give two shits about people having dupes and whatnot.
 
Bankie said:
So does online SP and a RMAH that allows users to buy what they want.
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I think most people disagree with you atleast about the SP. I have seen a lot of negative comments about the rmah and the ones that do support it are the ones delusional enough to think they're going to make crazy money. But the majority of people dont mind the SP online only. its fixed way more problems than its caused
 
RMAH =/= Duping. It's just another form of trading, which goes on in an economy anyway. Blizzard is not creating new items and placing them on the RMAH - standard drop rates apply which means the rarity is unchanged. They aren't just putting up "Legendary Item X = $50". Someone has to get it to drop, and post it up. The supply is not changing, merely the method of trading, which does nothing to ruin the experience - which duping does by completely destroying the rarity of items.
 
Sweetleader said:
I still find it rediculous that of all places, on the [H] forum, people complain about having to use the internet to play their video games. How often on a daily basis do most people on this forum not have internet. I guess the term 'first world problem" comes to mind.
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I have no problems with games that require me to have an internet connection to play, my problem is when I can't play because these morons took our millions of dollars from pre-orders and apparently didn't spend it on enough infrastructure to actually support the game. I've only had time to try and play the game once so far and all I got was the server too busy message.
 
It's like SWTOR II. Did I seriously just pay $60 for a six-hour game?

I'll ask for a refund and get four copies of Torchlight 2 with the money. Even if it sucks, at least I have four copies of a game that sucks instead of one. Plus I'll have LAN capability and be supporting a developer that ISN'T Activision.
 
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fattypants said:
It's like SWTOR II. Did I seriously just pay $60 for a six-hour game?

I'll ask for a refund and get four copies of Torchlight 2 with the money. Even if it sucks, at least I have four copies of a game that sucks instead of one.
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LOL

Did you seriously beat it in 6 hours?
 
MavericK96 said:
It's called voting with your wallet... :rolleyes:
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No, voting with your wallet is simple not buying the game. You crying bloody murder about a game you have not tried and the DRM that you have not witnessed or been affected by, is called ridiculous. You have not been affected by these in any way, yet you keep posting in a number of threads crying about what is wrong with a game you do not own, nor intend to.

:rolleyes: right back at you.
 
All this nerd rage is pretty hilarious. I have probably about 20 friends/acquaintances that are currently playing it and they all love it... not one person I know that has bought the game and not liked it. That's a pretty good ratio.

Ugh, I haven't had much time to play this week because of work - I have a major case of loot lust!
 
fattypants said:
It's like SWTOR II. Did I seriously just pay $60 for a six-hour game?

I'll ask for a refund and get four copies of Torchlight 2 with the money. Even if it sucks, at least I have four copies of a game that sucks instead of one. Plus I'll have LAN capability and be supporting a developer that ISN'T Activision.
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Activision isn't a developer Blizzard is. Activision is a publisher
 
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I'm not surprised it's getting killed.


I was super excited about Diablo 3, being a long time fan of the series, but after the announcement of the always online BS, I canceled my pre-order. I understand why they chose to do it (or the 'excuses' they gave)... but I cannot support that kind of DRM.

I completely stopped buying Ubisoft games, wont be buying SimCity 5 and skipped this.

If you don't mind it, then by all means... enjoy :) it's not something that I want to become a mainstream practice in the industry
 
contrivance said:
All this nerd rage is pretty hilarious. I have probably about 20 friends/acquaintances that are currently playing it and they all love it... not one person I know that has bought the game and not liked it. That's a pretty good ratio.

Ugh, I haven't had much time to play this week because of work - I have a major case of loot lust!
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And I have about 20 people I know that hate the drm crap but put up with it....for now. The discussion is not about how the game is enjoyable but the drm causing low Metacritic scores...please try and keep up.
 
Now that I can actually play it I love it. Don't know if it well have the replayability the previous one had though.
 
It's your choice in how to play it...I'm probably around 10+ hours in, level 26 and just hit Act3.
 
10 hours in level 24 just about to act 3. I only play with the wife though and she's pretty anal about busting every barrel and turning over every rock.
 
Disposed said:
Now that I can actually play it I love it. Don't know if it well have the replayability the previous one had though.
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it doesn't have the replayability of D2 because Inferno is far harder than anything in D2 and its going to take most players a very long time to beat it assuming they keep playing D3
 
Um, you don't exactly "beat" or "finish" a game like Diablo. The whole point of the game is get better and better loot so you can progress further and further into the game on higher difficulties. And once you clear the game on the hardest difficulty, you're likely still far from "done", as there's always more/better loot to be had.

Everyone saying they "finished the game" already and are done with it have never obviously played a dungeon-crawler before...
 
2 characters level 20ish act II. On cruise control with this game, could care less for the people that "beat it in nth hours, I iz madz.". Not how Diablo is played...

Launch was aweful, the DRM a bit too much.. thought it be a periodic checks if you are online but leave you alone in SP, playing in "SP" with 200-350ms latency really doesn't make sense... a pulse check to see if you are online and check character for cheating shouldn't warrant killer latency...

And the complant for sucky graphix... i like the art style. And after forcing Ambient Occulation and forcing 16x Anistropic Filtering, it looks better, why these settings are not ingame video menu options is beyond me.

K, back to D3 playing.
 
Never been a fan of DRM myself - but the very nature of this game required SOMETHING to be done to prevent all the duping and hacks that went on in D2.

The same people that are in a nerd rage over it, are the same ones that would be screaming if they had NOT used an always online DRM scheme and 6 months later the D3 economy is in ruins from all the legendary duping occurring.

Yes, the launch day sucked, but after they sorted it out 36 hours? It's been smooth sailing every since. for me. I'm having a great time, level 22 Monk in Act II. Can't wait to get to the harder difficulties.
 
collegeboy69us said:
Never been a fan of DRM myself - but the very nature of this game required SOMETHING to be done to prevent all the duping and hacks that went on in D2.

The same people that are in a nerd rage over it, are the same ones that would be screaming if they had NOT used an always online DRM scheme and 6 months later the D3 economy is in ruins from all the legendary duping occurring.

Yes, the launch day sucked, but after they sorted it out 36 hours? It's been smooth sailing every since. for me. I'm having a great time, level 22 Monk in Act II. Can't wait to get to the harder difficulties.
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I played D2 offline in single player mode. I don't give shit about online trading. I don't want to play online with a bunch of pimply face geeks and their virgin friends. Apparently there are a lot of players that feel the same. I don't mind how other people care to play the game but don't tell me that I have to play your way.
 
fps4ever said:
I played D2 offline in single player mode. I don't give shit about online trading. I don't want to play online with a bunch of pimply face geeks and their virgin friends. Apparently there are a lot of players that feel the same. I don't mind how other people care to play the game but don't tell me that I have to play your way.
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Why on earth would you buy Diablo to play single player? Do you also play L4D alone?
 
My first runthrough of D2 was single player. Then I got onto multiplayer and it became just a grind and an item find addiction fest. My life felt better after I retired D2. Story and lore were great, but you just can't sit and read text in multiplayer.
 
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fps4ever said:
I played D2 offline in single player mode. I don't give shit about online trading. I don't want to play online with a bunch of pimply face geeks and their virgin friends. Apparently there are a lot of players that feel the same. I don't mind how other people care to play the game but don't tell me that I have to play your way.
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You must be new to the internet: "pimply faced geeks and their virgin friends"

I used to be one of those -- and loved it. We are the guys that code your games, fix your computer, and make sure every system in your car and bank works as expected.

You sound like an angry typical douchebaggish bro. And spouting a bunch of hateful things just because your internet connection sucks.... well that just speaks poorly of you as a person.

You are right on one thing -- I don't have the right to tell you how to play. But Blizzard does as it's their damn game. If you are that dis-satisfied with the game I would suspect you spend less time on the forums here lest you turn into one of those scary pimply faced geeks" you seem to be so afraid of.

I have crappy AT&T dsl (not by choice, they are a monopoly in my area) and even with crappy 3megabit/down I generally ping around 60-75ms. I realize bandwidth != latency, but AT&T dsl blows and I'm still rocking happily in the game.

Just like everything else the only story you hear on most products are the negative blown out of proportion ones. (this is especially true with cars). Simple fact is most people when they are happy with their purchase aren't going to spend hours online in a forum or on review sites posting about their gleeful experience. Probably because they are enjoying themselves vs online rants.

If you knew Diablo2 - you know the core experience of the game. The idea the game was designed around was multiple people in a game sharing a dungeon adventure together. Single Player (even 10 years ago) was not it's primary design goal.

It's like you being mad that you bought a ferrari club racer designed for track battles against other drivers, and being mad that you can't throw some groceries and a bike in it for the weekend trip to grandma's house. Just doesn't make sense.
 
collegeboy69us said:
You must be new to the internet: "pimply faced geeks and their virgin friends"

I used to be one of those -- and loved it. We are the guys that code your games, fix your computer, and make sure every system in your car and bank works as expected.

You sound like an angry typical douchebaggish bro. And spouting a bunch of hateful things just because your internet connection sucks.... well that just speaks poorly of you as a person.

You are right on one thing -- I don't have the right to tell you how to play. But Blizzard does as it's their damn game. If you are that dis-satisfied with the game I would suspect you spend less time on the forums here lest you turn into one of those scary pimply faced geeks" you seem to be so afraid of.

I have crappy AT&T dsl (not by choice, they are a monopoly in my area) and even with crappy 3megabit/down I generally ping around 60-75ms. I realize bandwidth != latency, but AT&T dsl blows and I'm still rocking happily in the game.

Just like everything else the only story you hear on most products are the negative blown out of proportion ones. (this is especially true with cars). Simple fact is most people when they are happy with their purchase aren't going to spend hours online in a forum or on review sites posting about their gleeful experience. Probably because they are enjoying themselves vs online rants.

If you knew Diablo2 - you know the core experience of the game. The idea the game was designed around was multiple people in a game sharing a dungeon adventure together. Single Player (even 10 years ago) was not it's primary design goal.

It's like you being mad that you bought a ferrari club racer designed for track battles against other drivers, and being mad that you can't throw some groceries and a bike in it for the weekend trip to grandma's house. Just doesn't make sense.
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Blaaahhhh, to many words to bother reading...I take it the jist of it is you calling me some sort of name and telling me I should be playing D3 a certain way and there's no way I could enjoy D2 the way I played it. That about it?
 
Disposed said:
Why on earth would you buy Diablo to play single player? Do you also play L4D alone?
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I play singleplayer all the time. Partly because I hate having to keep pace with other people.

I only play mulitplayer with a small group of friends.
 
fps4ever said:
Blaaahhhh, to many words to bother reading...I take it the jist of it is you calling me some sort of name and telling me I should be playing D3 a certain way and there's no way I could enjoy D2 the way I played it. That about it?
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Hehe, how did you guess? I played D2 for years and never played it online once, so people can shove their "you obviously didn't play it right, how could you possibly play it offline. You're doing it wrong!" nonsense straight up their...well you get the point.
 
Disposed said:
Why on earth would you buy Diablo to play single player? Do you also play L4D alone?
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Because it is fun :rolleyes:

Your preferred method of play for a game certainly isn't the only method. I am sure there are people who rarely if ever played single player in Return to Castle Wolfenstein, or the Halo games or the Myth games. All of them had pretty good single player experiences. I bet there are some people who only cared about Half-Life because of the fact that its engine ran Counter Strike.

Here are a couple of commentaries on the single player game in Diablo III from professional reviewers

Tom Francis from PC Gamer said:
...it’s a fantastic single player game – in fact, it feels like it was built for single player. It’s much more story-driven than any previous Diablo game, and its systems for handling those scenes in multiplayer just suck.
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Anthony Gallegos of IGN said:
Diablo III’s story is a personal one, with each speech an NPC gives specifically addressed to my heroic witch doctor. But when others join my game it takes away from that, making Diablo III’s plot feel less like my own epic story and more like a backdrop for a loot grind game. It’s easy to miss out on story sequences, too, since any player can trigger story events for everyone, or simply force the group through the narrative faster than they can read....Both multiplayer and single-player playthroughs have their merits (though multiplayer will be where Diablo III gets its multi-year legs from). But if you’re a sucker for narrative, if you’re the type of person who hungers for every bit of plot you can find, then it’s probably best to go it alone at first
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NoOther said:
No, voting with your wallet is simple not buying the game. You crying bloody murder about a game you have not tried and the DRM that you have not witnessed or been affected by, is called ridiculous. .
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Blizzard probably welcomes even negative feedback. Simply not buying the game is not "voting with your wallet". Voting with your wallet often implies that you are trying make a statement to a company about practices you don't agree with. If you don't at least give them feedback then you are not giving them the ability to amend those practices. That is fair to neither party. Most successful companies relish feedback.
 
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HOOfan_1 said:
Because it is fun :rolleyes:

Your preferred method of play for a game certainly isn't the only method. I am sure there are people who rarely if ever played single player in Return to Castle Wolfenstein, or the Halo games or the Myth games. All of them had pretty good single player experiences. I bet there are some people who only cared about Half-Life because of the fact that its engine ran Counter Strike.

Here are a couple of commentaries on the single player game in Diablo III from professional reviewers
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I dont give 2 shits what some reviewers said about the single player game its irrelevant. The fact still remains that it was built from the ground up with multiplayer as the main focus. Besides the fact that those comments make absolutely no sense at all. Have you actually played the game? The way it handles the "scenes" as he put it is 100% identical to single player and still plays like an epic just for you. Play through single player then play through with a friend, theres literally no difference at all besides the fact that whoever triggers a conversation is the one that talks in that conversation.

Im sure its fun and all and thats fine but its just odd to buy a game like this then piss and moan about the single player. Its like someone buying SC2 just to play the campaign and bitching about it. Its stupid.

Now that everythings ironed out its just people pissing and moaning based on principle because of the DRM. I can respect that what i cant respect is bashing people like he did just because the game did not cater to his ass...
 
The fact that Blizzard implemented always on DRM just proves even more how much of a shit company they are, and have been for years.

Edit: After seeing screen shots, the game really does look like it should of been released 5 years ago. Paying $60 for this is like paying $20 for a handjob from a mannequin, its just f***ing stupid.
 
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Im sure its fun and all and thats fine but its just odd to buy a game like this then piss and moan about the single player. Its like someone buying SC2 just to play the campaign and bitching about it. Its stupid.
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On that note though, someone who bought SC2 just to play the campaign is somewhat validated in their bitching, as they only got the Terran campaign where most people thought they should have got the Protoss/Zerg campaigns as well without having to buy an expansion later. I am somewhat on board with bitching of that calibre.

But I know nothing about D3 except that all my friends think it is damn fun, so I'm debating making the purchase.
 
Psych0 said:
Metacritic is the grandest turd of the internet

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Why because you disagree? I use metacritic all the time. I dont throw 50k away on a car without at least looking at car and driver, user reviews or individual assestments. Why would I throw $60 away on a game without reading what everyone else has to say. Even if the review is blah blah blah F THIS GAMES it still has value to a consumer as some one was angry enough to take the time to post it. Seems it work on DA2, ME3 and wait for it.... I bet blizzard unasses D3 always online single player. Each to his own. Do you prefer the cock suck fest the paid reviewers put out instead?
 
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