New Lian Li PC- Q11 itx case : Specification & Feature

Ok, found a picture. Seems to work:

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Hi! I signed up just say thanks for inspiring me. It was a nice little case that I was curious to experiment with. I have done "some" modifications to be able to accommodate mATX motherboard, and squeeze maximum utility from this minimal space.

Components:
case: PC-Q11
mobo: Asus Maximus IV - Gene Z
CPU: 2600K w/ 120mm fan
Cooler: CoolerMaster Evo or something like that
RAM: 16GB Corsair
Case fan: Original Lian LI 140mm.
DVD/RW: LG
PSU: SilverStone ST45SF
GPU: PowerColor Radeon HD 6770
Storage: 2x2TB (Seagate and WesternDigital), 128GB SSS Crucial M4 - not pictured.

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For some reasons my pictures are not showing up so here is the link to the gallery:
http://radekonline.com/gallery/projects/q11/
 
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I am only halfway into this long thread but I was wondering... is it possible to use four 2.5" hard drives in this case without any special modifications or extra accessories?

I saw that there is a slot load optical drive adapter from lian li that could allow 2 extra 2.5" drives but I'd want to avoid that if possible.

I plan on moving 4 of my existing SSDs in this machine with hopefully a 450-500w psu, a 77w ivy bridge cpu when they become available, whenever that is...
video card... will be whatever I can get away with after all that equipment is installed.
 
You can velcro those SSDs on the walls .. maybe even in an aesthetically pleasing manner ...
 
actually might not be a bad idea, especially if it's just at the bottom of the case.
Otherwise, I did find a couple of 2.5" -3.5" adapters in my box-o-computer crap, so I guess I'm set...
 
@GnomeCop: What do you define as "special modifications"? The lower disk plate can accommodate 2 2.5" SSDs and 2 3.5" drives, so you could use:
1) That adapter you mentioned.
2) If the holes exist, simply screw them down.
3) Bore some new holes in that plate that match the holes in the bottom of 2.5" drives.
4) Build some simple brackets to use the 3.5" holes and the holes on the side of the 2.5" drives.

I will look at mine later this week and could get some cell snaps of that area if it'll help...


@jinzane: Nice PSU mounting mod!
 
I guess by special mods I would draw the line at drilling holes myself since I don't have any suitable tools handy a the moment.

Other options you mentioned would be cool, best case would be that some of the existing holes just line up.
 
Progress last weekend:

Progress from yesterday:


Btw, im very happy Nvidias new GTX 670 seems to have a very short PCB layout .. so in wont have problems upgrade my vga in near future :D
 
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My new PC-Q11 build.

Asus P8H61-I ITX Motherboard
Intel Celeron G530 Dual Core 2.4GHz 1155
G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2GB (4GB) DDR3-1333MHz
OCZ ModXStream 700W Modular PSU
Logitech MX360 Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Combo
Rosewill Windows Remote control
Samsung DVD-RW
WD 1TB Black HDD
Windows 7

Before PSU fully installed:
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PSU installed:
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Under MB and PSU:
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Back of case:
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Front of case:
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Your PSU seems slightly overpowered .. even 350W should be enoough ;)
Nice fingerprints btw :D
 
painbot said:
Your PSU seems slightly overpowered .. even 350W should be enoough ;)
Nice fingerprints btw :D
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sometimes price trumps. I chose the same p/s for a few of my rigs and havent had an issue yet. It comes with a lot of cables, some say the mains are too short but its a positive in this instance and came out to $59 or so after rebate. Rebates suck but I haven't been burned yet. This way I can reuse it later for a more powerful rig if I need to.
 
Thanks for complementing my fingerprints. Case is all cleaned up now. Looks great, should stay that way for a couple of days :).

I had the PSU already. I bought it for a 2500K with GTX 460 build but ended up taking it out to use a NZXT HALE82 650W instead. I paid $44.99 for this OCZ and it also had a $20 rebate so it was really less than $40 after rebate, taxes, shipping, etc. It works well so far, I like the short cables in these smaller cases but it would have a hard time in a large ATX case.

Sure it is overpowered but OCZ also enhance their rating. As you can see this is closer to a $550W PSU as the 12V rail is only 552W. For comparison my 650W NZXT has 632W on the 12V and 150W on the 3.3V & 5V. So if NZXT used OCZ's methods the HALE82 650W would really be a 880W.



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You cant just add all the max. Power-Outputs alltogether .. its the max. output each rail can deliver .. and all together deliver max. 700W and in case of your Hale "only" 650W ;)
An overpowered PSU is bad for your energy-efficiency. Most PSU have the highest efficiency at ~50% load. So if you would have a 350-400W PSU you would have a good efficiency. But with your 700W you have maybe 20% under full load .. so not a very high efficiency-rating ;)
This is why a PSU should always "fit" into a system .. not "as much as possible" :D
 
I just bought this case yesterday in silver... have some pretty significant mods planned for it. Can't wait for it to get in and start measuring to make sure my spatial reasoning based on the pictures is correct. Lots of nice machines in this thread!
 


The cover of my Aquaero isnt attached in this picture because i will try to get a custom made that matches better to the cover of the Aquatube and the radiator of the top (both Aquacomputer-covers).
The LED in the Aquatube is a RGB-LED:
< 35°C watertemp. = blue
< 45°C = green
> 45°C = red
controlled by the Aquaero. The color changes with a flashing/fading-effect of the colors .. pretty nice :)
 
Still waiting for mine to come in, should be here tomorrow. Can anyone with the case tell me how the 5.25 bay cover attaches? Does it attach to the drive rails or the case itself? I'm looking at removing the drive bay but I don't want to have to rig up some way for the cover to stay on.
 
These are the parts that I plan on using for Lian Li Q11

Asrock Z77E-ITX

Kingston DDR3 2X4GB ram

Crucial M4 64 gb SSD

2.5 " Old laptop drive 320gb

Silverstone Strider 500 W modular( hopefully with the short cables) 140mm - or a sfx 100mm non modular psu a better choice?

Sony DVD writer

Antec Kuhler 620

ATI Radeon 7850( MSI/Sapphire/Powercolor)- Not sure which one. Max length is 24cm

At first I was considering the new PC Q18 but I prefer the tower style case instead of the box type. Also I dont plan to use more than 2 hdd at any given time. What I am concern about is the cooling and the gpu. Firstly is it feasibly to put an antec 620 at the front?. From what I understand the fan mount for the case is 140mm and the antec has a 120mm fan. Can I solve this problem with a 140mm Noctua fans(comes with 120mm mounting holes) taking air in? How about a "push-pull" configuration?

Back of Case---Front of Case
PSU-- Slim fan|RAD| 140mm Noctua fan

Ofcourse the psu must not get in the way. But is this kind of configuration far-fetched? Or air cooling is the way to go for this case. Should I just get the bigger Q18?


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mushroomtip said:
These are the parts that I plan on using for Lian Li Q11

Asrock Z77E-ITX

Kingston DDR3 2X4GB ram

Crucial M4 64 gb SSD

2.5 " Old laptop drive 320gb

Silverstone Strider 500 W modular( hopefully with the short cables) 140mm - or a sfx 100mm non modular psu a better choice?

Sony DVD writer

Antec Kuhler 620

ATI Radeon 7850( MSI/Sapphire/Powercolor)- Not sure which one. Max length is 24cm

At first I was considering the new PC Q18 but I prefer the tower style case instead of the box type. Also I dont plan to use more than 2 hdd at any given time. What I am concern about is the cooling and the gpu. Firstly is it feasibly to put an antec 620 at the front?. From what I understand the fan mount for the case is 140mm and the antec has a 120mm fan. Can I solve this problem with a 140mm Noctua fans(comes with 120mm mounting holes) taking air in? How about a "push-pull" configuration?

Back of Case---Front of Case
PSU-- Slim fan|RAD| 140mm Noctua fan

Ofcourse the psu must not get in the way. But is this kind of configuration far-fetched? Or air cooling is the way to go for this case. Should I just get the bigger Q18?


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The noctua fan will work but I don't know if it will be able to hold the weight the radiator with it's 140mm rubber mounts. I have a koolance 140mm->120mm adapter installed in-front of my noctua.

As for a push pull, it's not going to be possible with a full atx power supply. You may have enough room if you go with a sfx psu like I did, but I found out that low profile RAM is a must. THEN, maybe you'll be able to mount a 12mm pull fan.

I definitely like the form factor of my case and I would much rather prefer it over the q18, but to each his own.



See my signature for my build.
 
So I bet $399 a GTX 670 would fit in this case... and I was right. Here are a few pics of V1.0 of my Q11, this was the "get it running" part. Taking measurements now for some heavy modifications.

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esseun said:
The noctua fan will work but I don't know if it will be able to hold the weight the radiator with it's 140mm rubber mounts. I have a koolance 140mm->120mm adapter installed in-front of my noctua.

As for a push pull, it's not going to be possible with a full atx power supply. You may have enough room if you go with a sfx psu like I did, but I found out that low profile RAM is a must. THEN, maybe you'll be able to mount a 12mm pull fan.

I definitely like the form factor of my case and I would much rather prefer it over the q18, but to each his own.



See my signature for my build.
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Can I use the screws for the antec fan on the noctua 140mm fan?(120mm holes)

Is this setup ok?
<<<<<Scythe SY1212SL12M 120mm|RAD|Noctua 140mm fan<<<<<<<<

Are the directions of fan intake/exhaust ok for this system.
 
mushroomtip said:
Can I use the screws for the antec fan on the noctua 140mm fan?(120mm holes)

Is this setup ok?
<<<<<Scythe SY1212SL12M 120mm|RAD|Noctua 140mm fan<<<<<<<<

Are the directions of fan intake/exhaust ok for this system.
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It's only going to work if you have a short SFX PSU and low profile ram. In fact, it also depends on the location of your motherboard power connector (it could get in the way if it's a connector next to your ram slots)
 
Well, I am nearly done. It didn't turn out as "pretty" as I hoped it would but over all I accomplished what I intended.

What was done:
CASE
- extended case by flattening curved end sections.
- custom made back panel to accommodate 4 PCI slots, I/O panel, 140mm fan, and a SFX power supply.
- custom made mATX motherboard tray with cutouts to fit cables.
- single piece front/horizontal tray: horizontal supports PS and future SSD, front will mount 2x 3.5" hd's.
- shaved cd-rom bracket.
- drilled a shitload of holes on top for PSU exhaust, and bottom for air intake.

PSU and electrical
- to get that cleaner look and to enable re-routing I shortened power cable (4-pin),
- simplified video card cable by snipping off excess plugs.
- converted molex to sata plugs.
- shortened both fans cables

Still need to do...
- side panels.
- install low profile SATA power and data cables for hd's and DVD.
- maybe sleeve cables.
- attach face plate for DVD.

What I accomplished and learned here:
The good
- mATX mobo in PC-Q11 baby!!! Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z w/16 GB of RAM, and 2600K.
- fitting 2 full size hd's, and 1 SSD, there could be room for more but I am not desperate.
- currently running Radeon HD 6770, but can fit card 9.5" long with both hd's in place, or 10.5" with lower hd removed.

The bad
- I'm little concerned about the amount of air that comes into the case, not sure if it is enough. Exhaust is more then satisfactory.
- It took forever to get it done
- It cost me blood, sweat, and tears, yes tears; aluminum shaving got lodged in my cornea and forced me to see a doctor. WEAR GLASSES when using jig-saw or grinder!

The ugly
- I wished I did not use a hammer to flatten out panels, it left marks forcing me to sand and then to re-paint some sections. Not ideal.
- On my second attempt to make the back panel I mis-measured, again, and did not account for mobo standoffs, so now I cannot use this nice I/O cover plate, but who is going to see that?
- Had to hack up PSU so it can slide in under riveted top.

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GnomeCop said:
wow, hardcore mod! got any other pics?
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Thanks (if you are commenting on mine). For more pictures see previous page. There are a few. The back panel is the old version - looks better now. I will throw in some more recent shots later.

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Interesting mod, radex! Good job. I know a few mATX mobos will fit in the Q11 without adjustment, but I am impressed you managed to fit the Gene board into the case. I would have probably adjusted it so that you had a good intake (for static pressure) and left the outtake to the PSU. That's basically the default but I'm surprised how well it's working for me running a GTX 570 and 2500K in the same case.

Might I ask what made you want to do it? I'm guessing you want to open up the option for overclocking :p.

Also, can't wait to see what the finished project looks like sitting on your desk.
 
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Managed an Asrock Z77, i7 3770S passive with AXP-140, Nexus 530w and ATi 7850 without mods.:) Using the stock fan connected to a Fanmate turned down so it's pretty much silent, temps aren't over 45 idle.

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KniFenForK said:
Managed an Asrock Z77, i7 3770S passive with AXP-140, Nexus 530w and ATi 7850 without mods.:) Using the stock fan connected to a Fanmate turned down so it's pretty much silent, temps aren't over 45 idle.

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How is the passive heat sink at load?
Also, what is the length on that MSi 7850?? must be pretty short to fit into this case.
 
q11 - $60
i5 2400s (65w) - $130
Biostar h61 itx - $55
PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 400 watt - $30 after rebate
Zotac 550 ti $80 after rebate
Cooler master gemin II s524 (running passive) $35
PNY 4x2 (8gb) - $28
128gb ocz octane ssd - $80
samsung dvd - $14

Total $514 - not a cheap build

Many different builds here, but what I wanted to share about mine are two things:
1. i5 2400s can be had for about $125 dollars on ebay (the price of an i3). And it runs on 65w like an i3 (of course less powerful than other i5s)
2. Cooler master gemin II s524 is a $35 dollar solution and does excellently in cooling (never passed 43c on idle) passively. This I think will be a budget alternative to the much more expensive 140. It also its right below the PSU exhaust fan and gets some nice airflow.

My rig runs very very quiet though I have three fans going (PSU, GPU, Case fan). I love the looks of this case. Silver is sleek as well and the white PSU does not look mismatched to the silver case from the rear.
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How long is PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 400 watt? ... nm, found my answer (6.3")
Can you not strap a 80/92mm fan to the underside of Cooler Master GeminII s524 (are there fan clips included for that)?
 
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i thought about that, but realized that It was not needed for my use and the CPU i was using. Wanted less fan anyways. No clips for that either from the box - you would have to get creative.
 
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How is the passive heat sink at load?
Also, what is the length on that MSi 7850?? must be pretty short to fit into this case.
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Temps are around 35-40C idle and 45-50C load. That's with the intake fan running slower as well so not bad!

The 7850 is only around 220mm iirc.
 
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