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Achieva Shimian QH270| $400 IPS 2560x1440 Korean Monitor
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and...site database failure...
edit: phew...was just an sql server crash. Not a corrupt database. I was panicking. Daily sql backups ftw?
Anyway...yeah. If the site picks up it'll be going on to its own high end dedicated server. So head on over to 120hz.net and force me to do that server update even sooner! =D
edit: phew...was just an sql server crash. Not a corrupt database. I was panicking. Daily sql backups ftw?
Anyway...yeah. If the site picks up it'll be going on to its own high end dedicated server. So head on over to 120hz.net and force me to do that server update even sooner! =D
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Looking forward to seeing pricing on the 2b models, and ETA once you get that worked out! I got a database error when I tried to go to the forums, but I'll keep an eye on it and register when I have the opportunity. My birthday is May 12, and if no significant updates happen by then, I may get one off ebay and buy the 2b board once available. I've been keeping track of this from the beginning and only my lack of funds has forced me to be as patient in ordering as I have been so far.
I appreciate all the hard work you've put in to this.
I appreciate all the hard work you've put in to this.
and...site database failure...
edit: phew...was just an sql server crash. Not a corrupt database. I was panicking. Daily sql backups ftw?
inb4QQaboutnothavingaTNsection lol
Looking forward to seeing how everything pans out for everyone.
Just got my Achieva shimian lite. This is my first experience with an ips display. Wanted to check the viewing angles and tried to view it at a wide angle. When i am at the desktop or browser everything is fine and unchanged. When i play a game eg. the witcher 2 woth lots of brown color when i view it from the side there is a glow to it. Is that normal? thanks
That sounds more like edge bleeding than viewing angle. Not sure why that wouldn't show on the desktop/browser, though. Maybe it's just more noticeable during games?
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I'll be flat out honest. I didn't like my QH270. The pixel response time isn't all that great. These displays ghost. My 120hz tn produces a crisper image in motion.
Does overclocking these displays really make that much of a difference? Its not like thats going to effect the actual pixel response time. My 120hz tn at 60hz doesn't ghost. My QH270 does.
Yeah, thats IPS glow and its normal. It can be annoying.
Does overclocking these displays really make that much of a difference? Its not like thats going to effect the actual pixel response time. My 120hz tn at 60hz doesn't ghost. My QH270 does.
Yeah, thats IPS glow and its normal. It can be annoying.
Ok....Scribby has been telling some people to come over to the site already, so I may as well share the info with you. Keep in mind that the site is currently what I'd consider as being a google style "active beta." If the site picks up, I have a triple-cpu quad core xeon gigabit server waiting as well. So if you experience any network issues, understand why. Site is new.
BUT HERE IT IS: 120hz.NET
Over the next few days, this site will become the #1 source for all things regarding OC'd Yamakasi's! Come join us. Give suggestions. Enjoy. Etc. Got some neat things set up.
Just registered. Thanks for all the work
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Second mysql server crash now. -_- Yup...I'm going to make a call on that new server today.
They were able to "replicate the issue" and will have a solution within 2-4 hours. Lovely! Arg. Sorry guys.
They were able to "replicate the issue" and will have a solution within 2-4 hours. Lovely! Arg. Sorry guys.
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I'll take it off your hands ^_^
and...site database failure...
edit: phew...was just an sql server crash. Not a corrupt database. I was panicking. Daily sql backups ftw?
120hz.net Awesome, appreciate your hard work! I was scared when the OCN thread got locked down, thought it would be the end of it.
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I wonder how large this first run will be.
Unless something has changed, the manufacturer said that the run had to be at least 1500 units.
That's expected that the 120hz TN display would produce clearer moving images. I have to agree, the response time on the Achieva looks to be un-accelerated, as is the ACD 27" and HP LP2740W too.
In terms of overclocking to a higher refresh it will help but I highly doubt it would equal the faster TN 120hz panels.
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Of course it's not going to equal a 120hz TN panel! It can get higher than 60hz by a manufacturing mistake. The 120 hz panels were engineered to run at 120hz and do so without a problem. They also cost twice as much or more for the same size. What do you expect?
Keep in mind these Korean monitors are 1440p, you need a top tier gpu to push the pixels at the same speed you'd get with a mid tier gpu with a 1080p monitor.
For many games you will obviously see worse performance, heck, with many games you'll be hard pressed to hit 60 fps, (at 1440p), with mid or high settings when you were achieving much higher fps, (at 1080p), with max settings.
For many games you will obviously see worse performance, heck, with many games you'll be hard pressed to hit 60 fps, (at 1440p), with mid or high settings when you were achieving much higher fps, (at 1080p), with max settings.
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If you can afford the monitor , you can afford a decent enough GPU to push it. Besides , turn down the eye candy and bit and your set.
That's not my take reading this and the OC forums. Folks are going for these because they are sub $400. Several have bottom of the barrel gpu's that run fine at 1080p. Why bother getting this monitor if you are going to turn down the eye candy? Makes no sense to me.
I just want to point out to folks an obvious issue. In order to take advantage of high refresh rate, you will need a $450+ gpu and even then many of the games available won't break 60fps at the native resolution of these monitors.
I have a 27" iMac and run many games in bootcamp and they look and play wonderfully. However the iMac uses an AMD mobile gpu, (with a desktop SandyBridge 2600k), and avg fps for SC2 is below 30 fps, (medium settings). All the fps I own run well below 60 fps, (medium settings). Perhaps, with a 680 GTX I'd see 60+ fps on these titles.
I'll find out in a few months, I'm building a game rig this week and will pickup an ACD in a couple months.
I'm biting the bullet on the ACD because this thread and the OC thread have made it clear that these Korean monitors are unreliable and have poor QC in addition to 0 support from the sellers. Some refer to it as a lottery. Guess what, more then 99.99 percent of folks who play the lottery lose.
I would guess that most people keep their monitors around for at least 5 years before getting rid of them. In 2 years time, you may be able to get high framerates at 1440p on mainstream GPUs.
Of course, there is the point that a person could buy one of these monitors and a 680 for less than the cost of an ACD.
Of course, there is the point that a person could buy one of these monitors and a 680 for less than the cost of an ACD.
This is not even close to a lottery. Most people who order these get a fine one, perhaps with a stuck pixel or two, they just don't come into the thread to talk about it because it was a good deal and their experience was fine. These are the same units you can buy in a retail store in Korea. Most of the concerns arise from the shipping issue. If you go to Best Buy and you buy a bad monitor, you can easily bring it back and swap it. Not so much with these. These are A- panels, not C panels. My friends and I (4 of us) all ordered the Shimian and 3 of us got perfect ones. One had a single dead pixel near the left edge. All of use are thrilled at the amazing monitor and the deal we got. You are not ordering a lottery ticket, you are ordering an A- rated panel. If that is not acceptable to you, and you must have an A+ panel, then fine, spend the extra money and get an ACD or another A+ panel, but don't come into the thread and crap it up, accusing it of being a 99.99% loss lottery when you don't even own one.
In regards to the GPU issue, I'm only using an HD5570 which doesn't have enough juice to max anything at this resolution, but I've found that if I play in a large window, the game takes up as much space as it did on my 19" display, plus room to have browser, email, chat, GameFAQs, this forum, etc. open at the same time. For me, it's the productivity of having 2+ displays worth of screen real estate in a single contiguous display. When I had 2 monitors, I played games on the right one and had other software on the left, and this isn't much different for me.
Nice response CEpeep. Like you, I am playing the Guild Wars 2 beta in a window on my PCBank 2700. There is no lag except for the server problems they are having. My PCBank came perfect pixel with no noticeable edge bleeding. For the money, these LG panel monitors can't be beat.
Its no lottery by any means, both of mine came without any dead pixels whatsoever, and a perfect picture, (other than the color temperature difference between the 2 due to the different PCB's used, as I have a 2B and a 2D side by side)
And yes, I swapped the PCB's and the color temperature swapped along with it, so the PCB's set the default color temperature, not the panel.
And yes, I swapped the PCB's and the color temperature swapped along with it, so the PCB's set the default color temperature, not the panel.
Wondering if these (custom pcb ones) will work as 3D monitors....
From reading around it looks like monitors needs to meet a certain spec in refresh rate and whatnot to get certified by Nvidia 3d vision to ensure all 3d games work properly.
And the thread is quite cluttered, perhaps one of the official guys in the custom pcb circle can setup another thread to organize regular owners/120hz owners. I know it'll happen sooner or later anyways so someone might as well do it now.
From reading around it looks like monitors needs to meet a certain spec in refresh rate and whatnot to get certified by Nvidia 3d vision to ensure all 3d games work properly.
And the thread is quite cluttered, perhaps one of the official guys in the custom pcb circle can setup another thread to organize regular owners/120hz owners. I know it'll happen sooner or later anyways so someone might as well do it now.
IIRC, you have to have a custom driver that is certified by Nvidia which means 3D is out of the question.
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Very helpful info in this thread. Got my Crossover yesterday from dcsamsungmall and am very pleased
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What the hell it the ACD? I've seen it referenced in this thread and others with no link and no model number. What are you all talking about.
Also, I, personally, am getting this monitor because I can't afford a better one. I was looking at getting a 24" monitor before this came along. While I could save up and spend $700 on a monitor that does 120hz and 3-d, it wouldn't have the color accuracy even after calibration of one of these, and I doubt it would have the pixel density, plus, I think $700 is just too much for me to spend on a monitor. I'd rather get one of these and save the extra $300-$400 to put towards a GTX 680 so that I can max everything out on it.
You're apparently living in a different world than most folks.
Apple Cinema Display. Now technically the Apple Thunderbolt Display.
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I'm guessing ACD = Apple Cinema Display although the new ones really should be called ATD = Apple Thunderbolt Display.
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There is no why in hell that the pixel response time is fast enough to have a decent experience with 3d at a decent framerate. I see ghosting in 2d with these displays. I can only imagine what the level of crosstalk would be like.
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While the panel is a major difference, I'd have to say the PCD and software within is a huge difference too. These two factors are why some panels have more or less lag than the others and more or less ghosting. A component is only as good as the hardware and software behind it.
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Yeah, $1k for a display...no. If you've got the cash, then more power to ya, but I'm not there yet. Just have to remind myself, two more years before I can start practicing law, two more years....
There is no input lag with the Korean monitors with dvi only imput. I've played some of the recent beta games, Diablo 3, TERA, Path of Exile and Guild Wars 2. Played them in a window and I did not experienced any lag in the games. There is also no ghosting playing these.
Apple sells both, because there are no Thunderbolt gpu's and the Thunderbolt ACD requires Thunderbolt, there is no adapter. The only devices on the planet that can use the Thunderbolt displays are 2011 and newer mac devices. Apple has no problems screwing, err catering, to its loyal customers.
(The only reason I have an iMac is that I'm an iOS dev.)
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If you are the same situation as many of my lawyer friends, it'll be quite a big longer before you can spend freely.
BTW, after shopping for monitors for my game rig for the past two months, nothing comes close to the ACD, if you don't mind glossy screens.
Anyone notice a large variation in brightness between copies of the Catleaps? I have a 2C that is 279 cd/m2 at full brightness and a 2D that is 197 cd/m2 at full brightness. That makes the 2D only capable of about half the advertised brightness.
Tried switching the power supplies between the two, but nothing changed. Both output the same (and correct) voltage.
Tried switching the power supplies between the two, but nothing changed. Both output the same (and correct) voltage.