Achieva Shimian QH270| $400 IPS 2560x1440 Korean Monitor

mmaker said:
:( What seller dude? I mean you tested everything, sounds fishy it worked for them.
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Seller was dream-seller. Other than the baffling successful test, he was pretty reasonable about everything. He was always polite, and was pretty patient while I tested out a lot of stuff.

I'm so conflicted, because I really want to buy another monitor just like it. This monitor is exactly what I need right now. Maybe I can buy one from someone who has already verified one here in the US?
 
You said you used another brick, did you make absolutely sure that this power brick worked properly?

Having the backlight come on does not mean that the brick is good, FYI.

EDIT: By working, I mean busting out the DMM and giving it a through lookover....
 
This is a wrong place to ask but with the influx of these popular korean monitors do they make 2560x1440 panels but larger than 27" I'd like to see 30-37" panels.


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Crest said:
This is a wrong place to ask but with the influx of these popular korean monitors do they make 2560x1440 panels but larger than 27" I'd like to see 30-37" panels.


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There's plenty of 30" 2560x1600 screens if that's what you are looking for (not in this price range, though). There's not much of a market for this resolution at sizes over ~30" since devices larger than that are usually used as TVs or for general media consumption, and no consumer media device (aside from a PC) can drive a display at 1440p or 1600p yet.

What size monitor do you have right now? Even if you are coming from a 24", the 27" still feels large.
 
CEpeep said:
There's plenty of 30" 2560x1600 screens if that's what you are looking for (not in this price range, though). There's not much of a market for this resolution at sizes over ~30" since devices larger than that are usually used as TVs or for general media consumption, and no consumer media device (aside from a PC) can drive a display at 1440p or 1600p yet.

What size monitor do you have right now? Even if you are coming from a 24", the 27" still feels large.
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I currently run a HP ZR30w.

I don't mind large pixels and wanted something larger in 1440p, hence I was hoping something from korea offered that.
 
Thank God someone mention something about the 2B monitors here. I was getting worried that i wouldnt get it. Will keep an eye out on this thread.:cool:
 
Price update:

Red-Cap has the base model Shimian for $319.99 with Best Offer enabled.

I'll guess the obvious, that he'll accept a best offer of either $310 or $315 shipped, which would be the lowest price yet.
 
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I think it was around 2 weeks ago or so that it was confirmed that they were going to produce the 2b models and we really haven't heard any details since (Not to mention OCN just imploded the thread). I am hoping we can get some info from Hyper that they are going to in fact run these monitors and maybe some faint idea of when we can expect them. Perhaps I am just getting a bit stir crazy, but it is hard to hold off from pulling the trigger on some of these deals that are coming through. =)
 
mystigiandoll said:
I think it was around 2 weeks ago or so that it was confirmed that they were going to produce the 2b models and we really haven't heard any details since (Not to mention OCN just imploded the thread). I am hoping we can get some info from Hyper that they are going to in fact run these monitors and maybe some faint idea of when we can expect them. Perhaps I am just getting a bit stir crazy, but it is hard to hold off from pulling the trigger on some of these deals that are coming through. =)
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If you check the last few pages(like 90-95 or so) HyperMatrix from the OCN threads has been giving some updates here.
It looks like Scibby, bQvle, and Hyper are working on the deal still, and will have a website up soon. Keep checking back here I guess.

Also, thank you guys for all the work!
 
spykes said:
You said you used another brick, did you make absolutely sure that this power brick worked properly?

Having the backlight come on does not mean that the brick is good, FYI.

EDIT: By working, I mean busting out the DMM and giving it a through lookover....
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Yea, I tested it with a meter. Plus the original shipping brick worked as well with a US power cable, and I only bought the 2nd brick out of desperation to blame something other than the monitor itself. I'm 100% sure it wasn't a power supply issue (but I appreciate the help with diagnosis).
 
tael said:
If you check the last few pages(like 90-95 or so) HyperMatrix from the OCN threads has been giving some updates here.
It looks like Scibby, bQvle, and Hyper are working on the deal still, and will have a website up soon. Keep checking back here I guess.

Also, thank you guys for all the work!
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True but so far there has been no indication of what it will be or pricing or availability.
----Is this going to be a plain 2nd run 2b or will it differ? Eg A screen vs A-? VESA stand or different stand ? Thin bezel? Anything different at all?
----what might it cost? Same as current eBay prices? Significantly More/less?
----ETA given that 3weeks has passed this should be known now as well as above points

Thanks
 
evangelionstar said:
True but so far there has been no indication of what it will be or pricing or availability.
----Is this going to be a plain 2nd run 2b or will it differ? Eg A screen vs A-? VESA stand or different stand ? Thin bezel? Anything different at all?
----what might it cost? Same as current eBay prices? Significantly More/less?
----ETA given that 3weeks has passed this should be known now as well as above points

Thanks
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Delay, there's just too many things that can cause it.

Personally I wouldn't bet that the price will be between $320-$400 when these sellers charge an extra $100-$150 for an hdmi port on their other models. They know when they have something special in their hands and they mark the price up accordingly.

When things become finalized we'll all find out at the same time. Crossing my fingers in the meantime, for both 2B PCB boards and 2B equivalent monitors.
 
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SJetski71 said:
Delay, there's just too many things that can cause it.

Personally I wouldn't bet that the price will be between $320-$400 when these sellers charge an extra $100-$150 for an hdmi port. They know when they have something special in their hands and they mark the price up accordingly.

When things become finalized we'll all find out at the same time. Crossing my fingers in the meantime, for both 2B PCB boards and 2B equivalent monitors.
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I wasn't aware hdmi would be included. It was DL dvi wasn't it?
 
tael said:
If you check the last few pages(like 90-95 or so) HyperMatrix from the OCN threads has been giving some updates here.
It looks like Scibby, bQvle, and Hyper are working on the deal still, and will have a website up soon. Keep checking back here I guess.

Also, thank you guys for all the work!
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Oh trust me I have been following, it is just when bQvle had originally announced that it was a go, it has been quite some time and a lot of stuff has happened in between ;)

Anywho I definitely thank the people who are still working on it!
 
evangelionstar said:
I wasn't aware hdmi would be included. It was DL dvi wasn't it?
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Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that they were going to include an HDMI port ;). I was using the hdmi/scaler version as an example of how these companies price their products.
 
evangelionstar said:
Is this going to be a plain 2nd run 2b or will it differ? Eg A screen vs A-? VESA stand or different stand ? Thin bezel? Anything different at all?
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I wouldn't expect anything different. It's a second production run so they aren;t going to try re-inventing the wheel or adding R&D to it.


evangelionstar said:
I wasn't aware hdmi would be included. It was DL dvi wasn't it?
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That's not what he was saying. He was pointing out that he feels the price will not stay in the $350 to $400 range as the HDMI versions fetch an additional $150 give or take. He was pointing out that the sellers know when they have something more lucrative than the others and a 2560x1440 S-IPS that has the potential to hit 120 Hz is incredibly lucrative even if it comes with potential risks. Not to mention it appears it will only be available to one seller (assuming it's a single seller dealing with the manufacturer and that they will be purchasing all 1500 units). That pretty much gives said seller market control and it will allow them to exploit that to a certain extent.

People can talk about how they won't pay over $400 for it all they want but, given the prices people pay for 120 Hz 27" TN panels with half the resolution, I doubt this is going to have an issue selling even with the inherit risks involved. To be fair though, there is only a chance at hitting 120 Hz on the 2B Catleap and you need a Geforce 680 to do it.

Personally I don't see it breaking $425 to $450 as they will have to move 1500 units but, we also don't know how much additional the manufacturer will charge the seller and how well that will translate to the their list price. Then you have to factor in the people that will buy it that are in Korea or close enough to it to actually make use of the manufacturer's warranty and will not have to pay for international EMS shipping as a result. I don't think there is going to be a shortage of demand given the hype that will engulf this second production run.
 
Based on Western manufacturing standards, you'd think that it would be easy to just do another run. The problem is, Parts Parts Parts. To buy/create parts for a limited run from a company that you previously purchased from but may no longer be making those parts, only means the prices are definitely going to be higher. I wish I could give you exact pricing but I can't. It's all being worked on. bQvle and Scribby and I have all signed on to the new site. It'll be a few more days as we polish everything off, before we announce it. There's still a lot to work through though, guys. It's tougher than you may think. But keep hope. That's all I can say.
 
I read on OCN that these panels were tested at a pixel response time of 11.4 ms. So that would make anything above around 80 Hz pointless as the pixels change just too slow (these panels don't have overdrive). Anyone have any more info.?
 
But you still get the extra frames w/o tearing (V sync On/depending on the game) and the extra smoothness so it is not pointless.

I found this:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/overdrive_at_75hz.htm

Basically displays overdrive is fine tuned to run @60hz so over-driven panels RTC may not operate as well at custome refresh rates vs 60hz. I'm not sure if this applies to newer panels though (article is from 2005) and I doubt most would notice the difference.
 
Vega said:
I read on OCN that these panels were tested at a pixel response time of 11.4 ms. So that would make anything above around 80 Hz pointless as the pixels change just too slow (these panels don't have overdrive). Anyone have any more info.?
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I actually perceived a significant difference when I went from 82hz to 105hz on my AMD card. And a less significant but still quite noticeable difference going from 100hz to 125hz on my Nvidia card.
 
evangelionstar said:
Positive I assume hyper?

Whatever happened with getting the amd's to run 100hz+ ?
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Yes. Very positive. As for 100hz+ on AMD, that's just not a possibility until/unless AMD comes out with different cards. All cards have a pixel clock limit of around 400mhz. My 6970 could do 408mhz. And With tweaking, that's how I got 105hz refresh rate.

Some AMD cards can't get over the 330mhz limit (2x single link dvi's 165mhz clock). That was supposed to be the situation with my AMD card as well. But I was able to overcome that using Powerstrip. Problem is the newer 7000 series cards don't have their data in Powerstrip, and are unable to be tuned by it.

Using CRU, I've heard of several people being able to go over the 330mz limit. But haven't tried this myself. With a 330mhz cap, even with tweaking you're going to be between 82mhz-85mhz for a refresh rate.

Nvidia cards should have the same cap at 400mhz pixel clock (so about 101hz refresh rate maxed, with tweaking). That's with the exception of the GTX 680 which I believe is the first to support a 4k resolution display at 60hz, with my theory having been that the higher bandwidth required for 4k@60hz should enable 1440p@120hz. I was right. And thank god. Because I bought 2 GTX 680's under that assumption. :p And I've maxed out the GTX 680's pixel clock at 537mhz. I'm not sure how high it can go beyond that. I could test it any further as at that rate I was hitting a 200khz horizontal refresh limit which gave a full red screen. But realistically, 537mhz gave me a 135hz refresh rate. Which we don't need anyway. I was just testing the limits of the card.

But yeah. If Powerstrip is updated, we'll have a guaranteed method to get to 103-105hz on AMD cards. Otherwise it's 103-105hz on any AMD card older than the 7000 series, with a potential cap of 82-85hz on the 7000 series.
 
Thanks hyper!

I knew about the gtx680 being able to push it but couldn't go past 2 x 7950. Physically these should be able to drive it and last I remember amd was going to look into it or something?
For now I'd be happy with 85+hz but of course 120hz would be better:)

Now I hope the Q270SSE2B1 coming my way OCs and is perfect with no bleeding, stuck/dead pixels or uneven lighting.
 
Vega said:
I read on OCN that these panels were tested at a pixel response time of 11.4 ms. So that would make anything above around 80 Hz pointless as the pixels change just too slow (these panels don't have overdrive). Anyone have any more info.?
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It'd not be pointless as NCX explained. And 11.4ms average is actually pretty fast (many TN panels with overdrive struggle to do that) so I'm not sure it's accurate since ToastyX said the Catleap felt like an "IPS without overdrive" and some other people seem to say the panel is slowish (but not horribly slow like a VA panel).
 
So my QH270 lite has been pixel perfect save for a tiny bottom bezel backlight bleed... except for one major issue. This is not my picture, but I have had this happen!

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So far this has happened to me twice. Both times the same way:

I leave my computer on all the time. So before I go to bed, I turn off my monitors. When I get back the next day after work, I turn it on to the same sight as this picture. This has happened both times after a LONG idle time from OFF to ON.

Both times it was fixed by rebooting my computer.

So far, by leaving my monitors on and allowing them to go into suspend then just waking them up, this hasn't yet happened. Anyone have any idea what's up? I'm terrified that I'm going to walk in one day and my monitor will be permanently like this :(
 
Yep, it does the same thing to me from time to time. Seems to be connected with a resume from sleep along with turning on the monitor from its switch (timing could vary, I don't pay that close attention to it).

Every time it has happened I have fixed it by pressing spacebar a few times (making sure the machine is "awake" and displaying the login window or desktop) and turning the monitor off and back on from the button the the back. Picture comes back as normal, no issues.

I've also switched to doing what Baconstrip does -- leaving the monitor on, letting it sleep. Given the "vampire" draw in my house another 1-2w constant doesn't make a bit of difference, and I avoid the annoyance of having to turn it on and off.

As for this becoming a "permanent" issue? Doesn't seem likely. It's clearly something to do with how the monitor's hardware interprets the "blank" that's sent by the GPU when the PC comes back from sleep. Resetting it always fixes it.
 
silent-circuit said:
Yep, it does the same thing to me from time to time. Seems to be connected with a resume from sleep along with turning on the monitor from its switch (timing could vary, I don't pay that close attention to it).

Every time it has happened I have fixed it by pressing spacebar a few times (making sure the machine is "awake" and displaying the login window or desktop) and turning the monitor off and back on from the button the the back. Picture comes back as normal, no issues.

I've also switched to doing what Baconstrip does -- leaving the monitor on, letting it sleep. Given the "vampire" draw in my house another 1-2w constant doesn't make a bit of difference, and I avoid the annoyance of having to turn it on and off.

As for this becoming a "permanent" issue? Doesn't seem likely. It's clearly something to do with how the monitor's hardware interprets the "blank" that's sent by the GPU when the PC comes back from sleep. Resetting it always fixes it.
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It's relieving to hear that someone else is having this same issue (that doesn't seem to really be much of an issue)! :)
 
Well, looks like those of us that were holding out for a matte screen are screwed. The Davi's have shot up to $1k+.
 
Nert said:
Well, looks like those of us that were holding out for a matte screen are screwed. The Davi's have shot up to $1k+.
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lolwut?

I guess congratulations if they can actually move them at that price but wow . . .
 
HyperMatrix said:
You can already get matte screen 27" 2560x1440 ips displays for as low as $500 here stateside. I'm confused.
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Yea, I don't get it either unless they really think people will flock to that price because it's CCFL and the domestics are edge lit LED. I will take CCFL any day of the week but not for twice the price and a warranty I wouldn't be able to use. Something tells me I'm not alone in that assessment.
 
he have "make offer" button

but I think there is another reason for price change

I suggest you to ask it via ebay message what happened
 
zomg said:
he have "make offer" button

but I think there is another reason for price change

I suggest you to ask it via ebay message what happened
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Good point, a lot of Ebay sellers will temporarily increase the price on a product to discourage purchases due to some issue with the seller or product itself.

I have no idea why they don't just temporarily de-list the product.
 
SJetski71 said:
I have no idea why they don't just temporarily de-list the product.
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I fail to understand that as well. When there is an issue in retail, you pull the item until the issue is resolved. I'm not sure why ebay sellers choose to ignore the conventional way of dealing with this type of issue. They are of course free to deal with stuff however they see fit (barring any ToS violations) but, raising the price to keep people from buying something (like with the power bricks semi-recently) makes no sense at all.
 
Racer_J said:
I fail to understand that as well. When there is an issue in retail, you pull the item until the issue is resolved. I'm not sure why ebay sellers choose to ignore the conventional way of dealing with this type of issue. They are of course free to deal with stuff however they see fit (barring any ToS violations) but, raising the price to keep people from buying something (like with the power bricks semi-recently) makes no sense at all.
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I'm pretty sure it costs them more in ebay fees to relist an item than to just change the price.
 
Yeah these guys increase in the price to stop people from buying. I had purchased a monitor from dream-seller but he told me the Crossover I ordered currently had a manufacturing defect. So he increased the price from $400 to $600 and I asked him why, he said it was to stop people from buying.
 
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