Achieva Shimian QH270| $400 IPS 2560x1440 Korean Monitor

Working Dual DVI cable?
I've tried 2 off ebay and neither work on my second machine but the one that came with the catleap works fine. I have a 6970 and it displays properly with the OEM catleap cable but the other two off ebay did not work.
Anyone have a link to a dual link dvi cable that is known to work with the capleap?

Thank.
 
I meant to post this last night and forgot to. There is a new model on ebay and, it's CCFL. There is a bit of a price premium for it though compared to the QH270-lite since they retail at the same price. There is a catch though as the pictures make it look like it has a matte screen.

Davi D279SV-VGQ2 disccussion at AVS (credit to original posy by Omyg here at AVS)

Davi D279SV-VGQ2 on ebay for $399 (credit to original post by Zanami here at AVS


Thanks for bringing the CCFL version to our attention.

Racer, does CCFL and matte nudge you a little closer to a purchase? :p

I imagine you'd want to wait for a few people to buy and review it first, i know i can't wait till some qualified eyeballs give their opinion.

Edit: Here's that link to Bigclothcraft, he has the CCFL for $380 shipped or Best Offer: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pix...-2560x1440-WQHD-Quad-HD-Monitor-/140734676776

I went ahead and put an offer in on the hopefully CCFL Davi monitor. Took them like 30 some hours to approve/deny the offer, so that was kind of annoying. I was just ready to give up this morning and buy the Shimian for 330, when poof, approved offer.

Anyways, I'll post details when it shows up, and do some pictures if I can find time. I imagine it will be delivered late this week if any indication of others delivery times hold true for me too.
 
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A couple of people at OCN recently received 2B revision Catleaps from seller BigClothCraft.

If you are willing to play the lottery then you may as well purchase from him, i doubt he has them in his possession though so it may be pointless, he may be just another dropshipper.

Edit: Not sure what version Catleap, but here is right around where the discussion starts: http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club/2310_30
 
Thanks for bringing the CCFL version to our attention.

Racer, does CCFL and matte nudge you a little closer to a purchase? :p

I imagine you'd want to wait for a few people to buy and review it first, i know i can't wait till some qualified eyeballs give their opinion.

Edit: Here's that link to Bigclothcraft, he has the CCFL for $380 shipped or Best Offer: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pix...-2560x1440-WQHD-Quad-HD-Monitor-/140734676776

How in the hell did I miss this post? I would have never seen it had Kluden not quoted it. CCFL nudges me closer but (and I can not even believe I am saying this) matte nudges me further away. I saw the 27" Ultrasharp at Microcenter Monday night when I had to go pick up some TIM and I want absolutely no part of LG's anti-glare coating. At least not that version of it. I had no complaints at all with the anti-glare coating on the 32CS560 but that was far from being matte. In fact out of the TVs I have recently tried, that was by far the one that changed the colours of reflections on it the least. If they insist on using a film on IPS panels it should be that film as it had no nasty "sparkle" to it or any other issues. The only other thing really holding me back besides the CCFL is the lowly 9500GT though I could always just run games at 1920x1080 until I find a suitable upgrade (e.g. the next round of price breaks on the 6850/70). I emulated a 2560x1440 desktop resolution and then ran WoW at the same resolution and it was pretty big dent in FPS (which I fully expected). FPS can always be fixed with an upgrade though and the pressing issue for me with the Korean monitors has been that they are LED. To be fair, I haven't seen a lot of complaints that you typically read about on LED displays but given my recent luck with TVs (the DX-32L230A12 panel defects) I'm just hesitant about LED as returning shipping is simply out of the question.

I'll hold off till someone actually gets their hands on one to confirm what it is and isn't. A risk is one thing but a blind risk thinking it's something it's not is another. I'm brave enough for the former but not the latter. Wage over at OCN had ordered one but then he changed his mind, canceled, and got one of the other models instead. Which brings me to Kluden . . .


Anyways, I'll post details when it shows up, and do some pictures if I can find time. I imagine it will be delivered late this week if any indication of others delivery times hold true for me too.

I, like Sjetski, ill be looking forward to this. Edge lit LED is a major turn off for me so if this is in fact CCFL, I will likely take the plunge. I mentioned to Sjetski that the matte is a bit of a turnoff since the TVs i have had recently were all rather glossy and looking at this matte 930b just looks weird. Given that there is no way of taking advantage of the warranty though, I would have less of an issue stripping the film off of the Davi than I would on the 23" ultrasharp and flushing a 3 year warranty down the drain. The one cavet to that though is the availability of the squaretrade warranty which I would strongly consider if the price were to keep falling.
 
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A couple of people at OCN recently received 2B revision Catleaps from seller BigClothCraft.

If you are willing to play the lottery then you may as well purchase from him, i doubt he has them in his possession though so it may be pointless, he may be just another dropshipper.

Edit: Not sure what version Catleap, but here is right around where the discussion starts: http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club/2310_30

Someone recently contacted a seller asking about the 2B variant. I don't recall which seller it was but they basically said they get whatever the manufacturer ships but that they would contact the manufacturer and see if there was a way to specifically request it. That was posted somewhere over at OCN but, I don't recall which thread as there are numerous ones dedicated to these monitors.
 
I just purchased the Davi from bigclothcraft. he accepted my 365 best offer so i got it for 350 with my ebay bucks.
 
I'll hold off till someone actually gets their hands on one to confirm what it is and isn't. A risk is one thing but a blind risk thinking it's something it's not is another. I'm brave enough for the former but not the latter. Wage over at OCN had ordered one but then he changed his mind, canceled, and got one of the other models instead. Which brings me to Kluden . . .

I, like Sjetski, ill be looking forward to this. Edge lit LED is a major turn off for me so if this is in fact CCFL, I will likely take the plunge. I mentioned to Sjetski that the matte is a bit of a turnoff since the TVs i have had recently were all rather glossy and looking at this matte 930b just looks weird. Given that there is no way of taking advantage of the warranty though, I would have less of an issue stripping the film off of the Davi than I would on the 23" ultrasharp and flushing a 3 year warranty down the drain. The one cavet to that though is the availability of the squaretrade warranty which I would strongly consider if the price were to keep falling.

I probably won't get a squaretrade warranty...its cheap enough that I don't care too much. As for the AG coating, I think its guaranteed to be matte finish AG because the only 27" LG IPS CCFL panel spec I could find shows it as AG. that's fine with me because I have a window behind where I sit, and reflections can be way too much. If its no more aggressive of an AG than this samsung I have in front of me, I'll be happy. I don't know anything about sparkle effects, etc.

Anyways, If its easy to get it open, i'll open it up and get a panel model, driver board, etc off of the components too. Same goes for the CCFL vs. LED of the thing...if it is indeed the same as the others, glossy&LED, I won't really care either. Will be a shame to get a panel that doesn't do the color gamut justice, but whatever. As you can see, I'm real complacent, most important thing to me would be getting lucky with no pixel issues.
 
got my shimian with tempered glass, only one dead pixel Ive found, practically invisible, unfortunately I have two large dust/somethings in the lower left quadrant that are very noticeable. I knew it was possible with the glass but I figured I'd risk it as I have put a few gouges in my 20wmgx2 screen...has anyone made/seen a rundown for removing the glass from one of these?
 
If i would know for sure that theres more of those panels which are possible to overclock to 90hz i would take catleap but now when im seeing more and more ppl with that C non clockable im starting to think if i should pay few 200€ more and just get the hp with better stand and almost no risk at all of having dead pixels or something else wrong with the screen.
Although i stumbled on this CROSSOVER 27Q LED-P 27" which has pretty nice stand also and still cheaper than the hp one. dunno what kind change i would have with this screens, guessing its about same % of having dead pixels than other korean monitors
 
Do you have a cable card to decrypt the channels? HDCP wouldn't be the problem most likely, can you play bluray?

Haven't tried bluray, but I do have a homerun prime that I run my cable throughout the house with no problems on any tv's or another monitor that I have. The minute I move the WMC window to the ACD, it won't allow the content to be played (something about drivers but I'm thinking its just not HDCP compliant since there are no proper drivers from apple besides their bootcamp drivers).
 
I probably won't get a squaretrade warranty...its cheap enough that I don't care too much. As for the AG coating, I think its guaranteed to be matte finish AG because the only 27" LG IPS CCFL panel spec I could find shows it as AG. that's fine with me because I have a window behind where I sit, and reflections can be way too much. If its no more aggressive of an AG than this samsung I have in front of me, I'll be happy. I don't know anything about sparkle effects, etc.

Anyways, If its easy to get it open, i'll open it up and get a panel model, driver board, etc off of the components too. Same goes for the CCFL vs. LED of the thing...if it is indeed the same as the others, glossy&LED, I won't really care either. Will be a shame to get a panel that doesn't do the color gamut justice, but whatever. As you can see, I'm real complacent, most important thing to me would be getting lucky with no pixel issues.

Yea, I came up with the same thing which was the LM270WQ2-SLA1. I was fairly sure it was matte given the pictures in the manufacturer's marketing material but just wasn't certain. I generally don't have a problem with reflections as the windows are behind my displays and the curtains don't let a lot of light in but, even the small amount of light they do let in will allow reflections on anything that isn't matte. I'm used to that from the Orion/Toshiba 43HR85 though as well as the CCFL TVs I have had recently. If it's not the super thick AG coating like the Dell Ultrasharps have (or one that has similar effects) then I likely won't care. There are panels that are a PITA to strip the film from though so that is a lingering concern. The main concern though is if it's truly CCFL. I'll just hold off until you get your unit in and have a chance to share your experience with it.

If it does turn out to be matte though, that should make a lot of people who don't like glossy displays pretty happy as it will give them an "affordable" version of the 2560x1440 S-IPS monitors. Granted they won't have a range of products to choose from but something is better than nothing. I'll definitely be waiting with anticipation to see what this monitor is and isn't.
 
LG's coating is much granier than Samsung's graniest coating. Samsung uses 3 kinds of matte coatings: semi-glossy (VA and PLS), light AG (c-pva), and medium AG (TN older S-PVA).
 
Well, after reading through most of these posts here and over on OCN, I'm really tempted to get one of these as I've been wanting a bigger monitor for a while(up from 24" 1200p which seems too small now) at 1440p but either didn't care for the AG coatings or have something compatible with the ACD. My Gateway is glossy and I really like that most of these Korean ones are too.

So my question is now that the Catleaps aren't likely to be OCed, is there any benefit to spending more money($20) on one over a Shimian?

And as for the Shimians, the Lite version does not have the tempered glass correct? It sounds nice, but I'd rather avoid potential dust under the glass. So the QH270-Lite should be a good purchase then.

One thing I just thought of too, is that I switch between my desktop and laptop frequently using my monitor and since there is only one DVI output on these I might get a KVM switch. Has anyone else used one with any of these monitors. At work, they sometimes don't play nice with the correct resolutions. Heck, maybe I'll just use the laptop with the old monitor.

A new monitor motivates me to upgrade my creaky old desktop which I haven't used too often for gaming since I've been into OS X and Linux mostly. My 9600GT should at least allow for pretty much everything I need besides gaming for the time being and my MBP has Dual Link DVI. Been wanting to upgrade once Ivy Bridge and Kepler came out.
 
smithy: I was thinking along the same4 lines as you, and eventually decided to go with the Shimian QH270-Lite. At $330 shipped, it's the best deal. After you start adding up the costs for extras like tempered glass, speakers, on screen display, better stand, HDMI, etc, it then makes better sense to just buy domestic and get a warranty. I also skipped the tempered glass because of the dust issue.

For KVM switches, I also did a bit of research. You of course need dual link DVI-D support, and support for higher resolutions. The best bets appear to be any of the Iogear (or Aten) that support 2560x1600. Iogear GCS1644 and Aten CS1644 look best for my purposes. I've had the best luck with Iogear/Aten for USB, mouse, Linux, and OS X compatibility.
 
Looks like the QH270-lites may be nearing the end of their price cuts. They are down to the $328.50 range and the prices only appear to be changing around $0.10 at a time now. Anything can happen I suppose but it looks like this may be the outer limit of what they consider to be an acceptable profit margin.
 
You're probably right. I think they gmarket sell for roughly $208 to $220+ to folks in Korea. Tack on the $100 shipping, and their profit is now less than 10%. Works for any of the models being sold, if you want to know what these sell for in Korea. The only assumption is the $100 shipping...
 
You're probably right. I think they gmarket sell for roughly $208 to $220+ to folks in Korea. Tack on the $100 shipping, and their profit is now less than 10%. Works for any of the models being sold, if you want to know what these sell for in Korea. The only assumption is the $100 shipping...

The shipping is a major assumption on all of our parts as they are probably able to take advantage of a bulk shipping rate offer similar to what is available here. Even then though, at some point it becomes more of a hassle than it's worth to purchase the units, list them, sell them, and deal with all the fees involved. While it would be incredible to see a further decline in pricing, I just don't see it happening unless a "model blowout" is involved and they would likely price the "model refresh" items at a much higher price which would allow the older ones to move pretty quickly. As long as the demand is still there, these will have no problem selling without going lower. I honestly never expected to see them for any less than $375.00 so I'm amazed they have gotten this low. Even the multi versions are down to around $450 depending on the seller and those were considerably higher at one point.
 
It's simple, Racer J: after selling a certain amount of initial units, the other units become 100% profit for the manufacturer. I'm no economics guru AT ALL, but that much is simple stuff.

Moreover, let us please assume that they pay HALF of what any normal person would pay for shipping? Because even that is being generous, since many small businesses in the US don't have to pay that much.
 
at some point some of these are going to come into the US by container to be sold here.. at that point I would anticipate a cheaper product (50 bucks or so saved on the overall shipping cost), but i dont think there is going to be anything beyond that.
 
Well I hopped on the band wagon with the QH270-Lite at $328.40 I will definitely take the risk! Can't wait to get it.
 
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I don't think kristof is experienced with international shipping, as at least when getting 50+ packages from Japan, SAL (4-6 weeks from memory) is about as equally expensive as EMS (usually 1 business week). There aren't major cost savings associated with slow shipping overseas unless you ship in bulk, and in that case you don't have to wait for eBay sellers to do that: just call the manufacturers and tell them you want 1000. Oh, and make sure you say that in Korean...
 
I wouldn't be surprised if subsidies were at work here. The price will likely continue to drop less steadily, as there are a glut of sellers trying to remain competitive. I decided to wait and am in no rush. :)
 
I received a response from bigclothcraft that the Davi D279SV-VGQ2 screens are indeed CCFL and not LED. He is checking to see if they are Matte as well. I'll post back what I find out.
 
finding 4k sample video is pretty hard now, but here is one of the better ones with PEOPLE in it so we can see the clarity on these screens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GzHHtjYNQ


some of the shots are the most crystal clear video I have ever seen. And those time lapse versions don't really show off this resolution well as you can still see grain, maybe it's a camera issue, but this video is a better showcase.


EDIT:

another issue, why does no one ever shoot anything for 16x9 ratio video?

almost ALL computer monitors are that resolution, almost ALL tvs are that resolution, the only place that is not the case is the theater, but it makes no sense to make every damn high res video for consumer consumption widescreen when NO ONE USES A WIDESCREEN RESOLUTION. Such a stupid waste.
 
tybert, there are plenty of videos produced in 16x9 ratio, but those are usually animated features (Toy Story 3, for example) or TV shows. As for why, I missed that part of film class, sorry.

And plenty of people use traditional 1.85:1 "theater" widescreen, just not nearly as many as people who have 16:9 TVs. Go to AVS Forum's projector section and be wow'd by how that single part of their forum probably has more posts than the entire [H]. But then you could argue that they should make movies in 4:3 again, since there are TONS more displays in the world which are still in that format versus the newer 16:9s. What would be a "stupid waste" in your opinion: for movies to lose their cinematic ratio due to poor choices made by television manufacturers, or for television manufacturers to start making TVs which support film better?

FFS dude, why not complain about most websites being created with 4:3 in mind while you're at it? Travel the world some time and you'll see that most places in the world don't even have an ounce of what we see on these forums, and so to expect either Hollywood film makers or television manufacturers -- both of whom cater to a WORLDWIDE audience in many respects -- to change because you don't like some black bars is ass-backwards both economically and logically.
 
tybert, there are plenty of videos produced in 16x9 ratio, but those are usually animated features (Toy Story 3, for example) or TV shows. As for why, I missed that part of film class, sorry.

And plenty of people use traditional 1.85:1 "theater" widescreen, just not nearly as many as people who have 16:9 TVs. Go to AVS Forum's projector section and be wow'd by how that single part of their forum probably has more posts than the entire [H]. But then you could argue that they should make movies in 4:3 again, since there are TONS more displays in the world which are still in that format versus the newer 16:9s. What would be a "stupid waste" in your opinion: for movies to lose their cinematic ratio due to poor choices made by television manufacturers, or for television manufacturers to start making TVs which support film better?

FFS dude, why not complain about most websites being created with 4:3 in mind while you're at it? Travel the world some time and you'll see that most places in the world don't even have an ounce of what we see on these forums, and so to expect either Hollywood film makers or television manufacturers -- both of whom cater to a WORLDWIDE audience in many respects -- to change because you don't like some black bars is ass-backwards both economically and logically.


Whatever the adoption rate may be around the world, the trend in panels for computer monitors and tvs has been 16x9 for a LONG time now. Does it not seem strange to you or anyone that there is so little movie video content shot for that format? Not even talking higher res now, just a more basic thing like not shooting almost every video under the sun at widescreen ratios.
 
Whatever the adoption rate may be around the world, the trend in panels for computer monitors and tvs has been 16x9 for a LONG time now. Does it not seem strange to you or anyone that there is so little movie video content shot for that format? Not even talking higher res now, just a more basic thing like not shooting almost every video under the sun at widescreen ratios.

The trend was also 4:3 for a long time which Xinmosni pointed out to some extent. Home A/V trends do not dictate cinematic trends nor should they. Personally I feel 16:9 has always been a compromise but they almost had to compromise to aid in the transition from 4:3 sets considering one had to buy a much larger widescreen in order to have the same screen height they were used to. That was extremely cost prohibitive at one point. That has changed though and cinematic widescreens are finding their way into the marketplace so all of this will be a moot point in a few years.

It doesn't seem strange at all that almost the entire film industry has continued to shoot in their preferred aspect ratio as 16:9 cuts off a substantial amount from the sides when compared to 1.85:1 and 2.35:1 and the various other ratios that exist. It would be a tragedy for films to adopt a 16:9 ratio just because that's what displays currently are. There is no reason the film industry should have to limit itself because of the choices display companies decided to make. They didn't do it for 4:3, they didn't do it for 5:4, and they aren't going to do it for 16:9 because it's unnecessary and foolish. Letterbox bars are nothing new as they were around well before 16:9 displays were. Everyone should be used to seeing them by now. If you don't like them, don't buy the letterbox edition. You can also just allow your 16:9 display to zoom in and chop off the sides of your content and pretend like it was shot in 16:9.
 
I am about to buy one of these (most likely Achieva as it is the cheapest at the moment)
Just want a good high res monitor for work/browsing and this will not be used for gaming. I have a acer-revo desktop with original nvidia ion gpu.

Will the HDMI out of this GPU be able to drive the monitor at full resolution for regular windows applications?

Any other compatibility issues with this gpu because of which I might want to avoid these monitors?
 
Their specs say it has a Dual-Link DVI for desktop, but you are looking to use HDMI.

Just make sure you get a DVI-D to HDMI connector as these panels use the DVI-D connector, and unless you are looking to spring for the $400+ model that has HDMI, that will be your primary path.

Also, if you plan to surf/etc, these have glossy finishes, so make sure you account for that, or you will be staring at your reflection if you have a bright source behind you.

I grabbed a pair of Davi 27s for work, as they use the LG 27" CCFL, and from what I've seen, there is only 1 version of LG 27" CCFL, of which it has the Anti-Glare coating that suggests it will be a Matte finish (perfect for reading). I used bigclothcraft as a vendor, since he had the best communication, and quite a bit of positive feedback (14k+ @ 99.5%). He confirmed to me that it does weigh more, and it is a little larger because of the CCFL (which is a relief because I would have been worried if it was supposed to be a CCFL, and weighed the same as LED).

The rest of the panels you may have been reading about are the LG 27" LED panels. After going some homework, the general consensus is that CCFL is better for reproduction and has less issues than LED. I'm not saying LED is bad, just that from what I've researched CCFL is better. I would suggest that perhaps you might want to look into this as well, and I hope some of the information here helps out.
 
You guys that are getting the CCFL version, can you please check to see if the monitor makes a BUZZING sound when not at 100% brightness? The previous gen LM260wu1 and LM260wu2 LG panels were notorious for the buzzing do to the modulation on the backlight to lower brightness. It was I believe the actual tubes that made the noise. I'm worried that the new gen CCFL (LM270) will do the same thing. Note that the LED's don't make a sound, one of the reasons I'm willing to put up with the glossy screen of these new panels...

Ted
 
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