French ‘Three Strikes’ Law Slashes Piracy

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What do you think it mean when a new "three strikes" law has literally cut piracy in half in just one year but there has been no uptick at all in legit music / movie sales? Hmmm, could it be that maybe people pirate stuff because they don't want to pay for it?

A new report on the effectiveness of the French three-strikes anti-piracy law claims that it managed to cut Internet piracy in half last year. While lobbyists are making preparations to show these great results to politicians worldwide, there is one thing the report fails to mention. Despite the claimed decrease in piracy, revenues through legal channels are down as well. This is strange, because in previous years these losses were solely attributed to piracy.
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And the data about reducing piracy will be widely distributed. While that fact that the law has, arguably, a negative effect on sales/revenue will be suppressed; because it's not about file sharing. It's about control.
 
thenapalm said:
They pirated it because they had no intention of ever buying it.
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You really should read the article...

"Despite the claimed decrease in piracy, revenues through legal channels are down as well. This is strange, because in previous years these losses were solely attributed to piracy."
 
Loudspeaker said:
You really should read the article...

"Despite the claimed decrease in piracy, revenues through legal channels are down as well. This is strange, because in previous years these losses were solely attributed to piracy."
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And his claim supports that assertion. They were trying to blame piracy for lost sales, and clearly that is not the issue.
 
it is only talking about P2P shit. 29% less visits to P2P sites, 66% reduction in P2P traffic. they never state what is exactly cut in half. it didn't monitor streaming or direct downloads. they are always to stupid to even mention private groups that cant even begin to monitor.
 
I'm betting on that there's less stuff people want to get in general. The Three Strikes has little to do with it.

Not downloading anything.
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didnt do any thing to piracy it just all went underground HELLO DARKNETS and that other network that shall not be named
 
Loudspeaker said:
"Despite the claimed decrease in piracy, revenues through legal channels are down as well. This is strange, because in previous years these losses were solely attributed to piracy."
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There's been a few studies that show, those who pirate the most, also buy the most.

Some of them are media addicts. They buy what they can, and pirate the rest.
 
Elios said:
didnt do any thing to piracy it just all went underground HELLO DARKNETS and that other network that shall not be named
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This.

All they did is cut down on the casual, non-tech pirates. The real pirates just went further underground.

Since P2P traffic is a large part of the overall internet traffic, I'd like to see the numbers on internet traffic during this time period. If they cut P2P traffic that much, there should have been a drop overall traffic.
 
nutzo said:
This.

All they did is cut down on the casual, non-tech pirates. The real pirates just went further underground.

Since P2P traffic is a large part of the overall internet traffic, I'd like to see the numbers on internet traffic during this time period. If they cut P2P traffic that much, there should have been a drop overall traffic.
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The casual pirates are the vast majority...the 'real pirates' never were on P2P to begin with.
 
This is strange, because in previous years these losses were solely attributed to piracy.
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Maybe because piracy actually helped the industry grow. Fucking dolts.
 
BladeVenom said:
There's been a few studies that show, those who pirate the most, also buy the most.

Some of them are media addicts. They buy what they can, and pirate the rest.
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Maybe, but those pirates are probably picking and choosing. After finding what they actually like, they buy. So... if that is the case, then piracy helped the industry.
 
Just agreeing with everyone here. It should be obvious why cutting piracy did not increase sales. The pirates had no intention of paying for what they're pirating in the first place. Why pay when you can get it for free.

I'm liking this French three strikes law. I would like to see it as an experiment here.
 
What I want to know is... how accurate were they in determining if piracy was indeed there or not? I'm still kind of miffed about getting a mail for a harry potter movie download... I should sue for defamation of character! I would never watch another harry potter movie! :D

Well, atleast make an effort to watch one anyway.:p
 
Those media pirates may have also been encouraged to buy and support what they pirated because they actually liked it.
 
I have no doubt that this system reduced piracy. I doubt they care too much about the "real pirates" who just go deeper underground, I would think its the casual pirates who make up the numbers.

Personally I think these laws were a good idea, for a test run if nothing else. Means the content creators can get off their arses and go back to creating content instead of worrying about piracy. Regardless of whether or not piracy is affecting sales, I don't really care that much to be honest, what I care about is the publishers' facination with piracy and how it hurts the experience of legitimate customers when they go to buy a product. I want to see publishers and the like getting back to the job they were placed there to do, supply money to promote and fund the entertainment we all enjoy (or don't enjoy and spend hour upon hour bitching about instead).
 
gesicht said:
it is only talking about P2P shit. 29% less visits to P2P sites, 66% reduction in P2P traffic. they never state what is exactly cut in half. it didn't monitor streaming or direct downloads. they are always to stupid to even mention private groups that cant even begin to monitor.
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The content could totally be ubuntu downloads and it wouldn't be relevant :p.
 
Emission said:
The content could totally be ubuntu downloads and it wouldn't be relevant :p.
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It absolutely could be that. That is pretty much all I download from torrents and I likely won't pull down any more until 12.04 goes final.
 
Awesome! The first step towards making the war on "piracy" (not the Somalian kind mind you) the next war on drugs. If governments pass enough laws to deter regular folks from file sharing it's just going to open up the media market for groups that are used to ignoring laws, like organized crime! Yes, I understand this is in France, but results like this will encourage other governments to follow suit.
 
They pirated it because they had too much time on their hands like many in this forum do.

Anyway, I am glad to hear that the three strikes law is working.
 
Hmm, if artists/producers see no increase in sales from stopping piracy, the only thing that has technically been accomplished is a reduction of entertainment/arts consumption. I don't think that's an overall benefit to the country.
 
Maybe that French Muslim guy ran amok because he got some letters because of the "three strikes" law.
 
Emission said:
The content could totally be ubuntu downloads and it wouldn't be relevant :p.
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In all seriousness, Linux ISOs aren't as relevant as before. Since we have permanent internet access, it's better to download a minimal installer and only download the applications you need.

Anyway, their statistics are flawed for many reasons, but the best part is I have yet to know about someone actually getting to the second or third strike. And anyway, since the first one is a mail, you can always act like you didn't get it and the procedure is void.

And as a French guy, I can tell you piracy is all but dead here.
 
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