Anonymous' 'Operation Blackout' Goes Dark; DNS Just Fine

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Anonymous, where art thou? Looks like Anonymous was a no-show at their own party to shut down the Internet today. The temporary shutdown was supposed to be midday and the time has passed in the Western Hemisphere without incident. Trial run, or inability to deliver?

The alleged plan by Anonymous members was to exploit a known vulnerability in DNS servers through the use of an attack utility known as "Ramp," or "reflective amplification."
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There were tons of anonymous members who were claiming it was all a hoax and they had nothing to do with it. So I'm not surprised.
 
Is anyone surprised? The roots are WAY bigger than anonymous can understand. A root server is no longer a little server sitting in a building, it is hundreds of thousands of servers distributed via anycast around the world, with tons of bandwidth.

And there are 13 of them.

There are the same retards that couldn't touch Amazon on account of them being too big and having too much bandwdith. They greatly over estimate their own capabilities. They'll DDoS a small site that is just a server or two off the net and they think that means they can do anything. When they go up against the real big shit, they can't do a damn thing.
 
The fast people forget about Anonymous, the faster they'll go away.
 
Sycraft said:
Is anyone surprised? The roots are WAY bigger than anonymous can understand. A root server is no longer a little server sitting in a building, it is hundreds of thousands of servers distributed via anycast around the world, with tons of bandwidth.

And there are 13 of them.

There are the same retards that couldn't touch Amazon on account of them being too big and having too much bandwdith. They greatly over estimate their own capabilities. They'll DDoS a small site that is just a server or two off the net and they think that means they can do anything. When they go up against the real big shit, they can't do a damn thing.
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Yep, I bet when they DDOSed Amazon, their impact was less than 1/10th of Amazon's black Friday load.
 
Sycraft said:
Is anyone surprised? The roots are WAY bigger than anonymous can understand. A root server is no longer a little server sitting in a building, it is hundreds of thousands of servers distributed via anycast around the world, with tons of bandwidth.

And there are 13 of them.

There are the same retards that couldn't touch Amazon on account of them being too big and having too much bandwdith. They greatly over estimate their own capabilities. They'll DDoS a small site that is just a server or two off the net and they think that means they can do anything. When they go up against the real big shit, they can't do a damn thing.
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I thought half of them got knocked off several years ago. I doubt it was anyone who laid their plans out right in the open.

Has there ever been a criminal gang more easily infiltrated than anonymous? Somehow, I doubt that any planing could possibly work. Also, these idiots seem to work best attacking low hanging fruit (like you said). A lot of hopeless security (hello, Sony!) out there, a lot of it can fall using anon's scripts.
 
Amazon is under a huge 24/7 DDoS attack and doesn't break a sweat. I am not sure anyone thought Anonymous would accomplish anything today.
 
Yeah I woke up this morning and the internet was still there. I was all like WTF Anonymous.... Hackers pft.. more like Slackers amirite ;-)
 
You could stop all the root servers for a day and pretty much no one would notice.
 
Can they do anything outside of DDoS? It seems like that's about the only serious attack they can do any more.
 
I don't think Anon was saying this anyways from the start. Of Course they wouldn't "show".
 
I don't think the majority of people here understand what Anonymous is, and that includes the writers at HardOCP.
 
Maybe they wanted to do this for Earth Hour, and misunderstood that it's just the lights that have to be blacked out, not server equipment. :D
 
Bordak said:
I don't think the majority of people here understand what Anonymous is, and that includes the writers at HardOCP.
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What's there to understand? They accomplish nothing useful. Whatever their "cause of the week" is, they fail at it repeatedly. They're an annoyance trying desperately to be relevant in a world that really doesn't care.
 
Safety said:
COME AT ME BRO
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ya wan summa dis too? :p

Seriously though, when someone says, "you all don't understand" but offers no explanation as to why, then no one is helped to understand.

GaryJohnson said:
Anonymous is a meme. Through some self perpetuating sensationalism, the media has instead decided "Anonymous" is a legion of evil super hackers.
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Fair enough explanation. Makes it sound like there is no group though.
 
Red Falcon said:
Can they do anything outside of DDoS? It seems like that's about the only serious attack they can do any more.
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I don't think so. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like they have the collective knowledge to do much more than what they're doing.

I mean maybe they can get lucky and SQL inject the databases on a few webapps or exploit a handful of old unpatched web app/server vulnerabilities, but they're not out there rooting boxes with 0-days. From what it seemed like, Lulzsec is basically just dumping db info after they find SQL injection vulnerabilities.

I thought they'd accomplish more when I initially heard about anonymous. I expected like a dozen teenagers would get arrested for running full metasploit scans from their own boxes or through public proxies and dumping silly payloads on outdated unpatched servers, but even doing just something like that, they probably would've found something insecure, owned it, and it would have been higher profile. Instead anonymous is just DDoSing stuff and lulzsec is releasing user data.

And maybe they're doing more behind the scenes. All I see is the news snippets and when they tout their accomplishments. They have a whole bunch of people with seemingly a lot of time on their hands. If you train them up just a little bit you can have them plugging into random ethernets at actual physical locations or breaking into WPA networks with aircrack. Once you're on an internal network, as long as you're not broadcasting anything that identifies you, you can fucking go to town unless there's an intrusion detection system... and even that can be pretty easily avoided.

Even if they're just sticking to the web, I've seen some scary stuff on public websites... file transfer vulnerabilities on web apps that enable you to email out pretty much anything on the server including passwd, the server's configuration file with plaintext DB admin credentials, etc... and things like unsecured VPNs. It doesn't seem like these groups are really digging beyond the surface. Maybe there's a reason for that though. Who knows.
 
InternationalHat said:
I don't think so. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like they have the collective knowledge to do much more than what they're doing.

I mean maybe they can get lucky and SQL inject the databases on a few webapps or exploit a handful of old unpatched web app/server vulnerabilities, but they're not out there rooting boxes with 0-days. From what it seemed like, Lulzsec is basically just dumping db info after they find SQL injection vulnerabilities.

I thought they'd accomplish more when I initially heard about anonymous. I expected like a dozen teenagers would get arrested for running full metasploit scans from their own boxes or through public proxies and dumping silly payloads on outdated unpatched servers, but even doing just something like that, they probably would've found something insecure, owned it, and it would have been higher profile. Instead anonymous is just DDoSing stuff and lulzsec is releasing user data.

And maybe they're doing more behind the scenes. All I see is the news snippets and when they tout their accomplishments. They have a whole bunch of people with seemingly a lot of time on their hands. If you train them up just a little bit you can have them plugging into random ethernets at actual physical locations or breaking into WPA networks with aircrack. Once you're on an internal network, as long as you're not broadcasting anything that identifies you, you can fucking go to town unless there's an intrusion detection system... and even that can be pretty easily avoided.

Even if they're just sticking to the web, I've seen some scary stuff on public websites... file transfer vulnerabilities on web apps that enable you to email out pretty much anything on the server including passwd, the server's configuration file with plaintext DB admin credentials, etc... and things like unsecured VPNs. It doesn't seem like these groups are really digging beyond the surface. Maybe there's a reason for that though. Who knows.
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this is pretty much what I am thinking about them, just a bunch of script kiddies who just let scripts run all day that try to inject sql databases, brute-force attack SSH of servers, DDOS, and when they find something juicy, boom, they suddenly proclaim themselves as saviors of the world. and yet, alot of people advocate them,lol, even old school hacktivists disown them,lol
 
Wumpus said:
I thought half of them got knocked off several years ago. I doubt it was anyone who laid their plans out right in the open.
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The point is, they would have to do something that last for days on end so that ISPs and other outlying servers cache would expire. an ICMP flood like they did around 10 years ago is easily blocked, and only caused some of the servers problems, not all of them.
 
Again, there are more than just 13 root DNS servers. There are hundreds of servers around the world that combine to make up the 13.
 
Look around you and it is clear to see that what I say is true. You might want to take off the blinkers first though. Anonymous helped orchestrate both the Middle East uprisings and OWS so you really know shit, BOY.
 
kontact said:
Oh, and please ban me now mod. I am sick of these spineless sacks of shit you have as members. Some are OK but a lot of butt fuckers here too.
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Woo. Persecution complex much?

Yep. You must be like 14. The wangst is thick enough to cut with a chainsaw.

By resorting to cyber attacks, Anonymous is basically embracing what they claim to hate by being the arbiter of who can and cannot "speak" on the Internet.

By resorting to criminal methods of breaking into systems, they cost people money, piss them off, and give the government ever greater excuses to destroy our liberties.

Let's be clear here. This is NOT "civil disobedience".

There's nothing civil about stealing peoples' money, damaging their property, and denying them the ability to communicate freely.

Maybe when you grow the fuck up and stop having mommy and daddy shelter you from the real world (financially), you'll actually grow a clue.

Until then, you're some yappy little retard with a Che Guevarra complex. I have exactly zero time for you and aren't even worth the price of a bullet.
 
kontact said:
Look around you and it is clear to see that what I say is true. You might want to take off the blinkers first though. Anonymous helped orchestrate both the Middle East uprisings and OWS so you really know shit, BOY.
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You mean the violent uprisings where the Muslim Brotherhood basically took over Egypt? Sure, take out the dictators and install the Islamo-fascists instead. When they push for the revival of the old Caliphate that existed during the Ottoman empire, don't say I didn't tell you so, but then you wouldn't know because you don't know squat about history do you? Maybe you don't know that Ayman Al-Zawahiri, current leader of Al Qaida, was in the Muslim Brotherhood at the age of 14 and was jailed by Anwar Sadat for attempting to overthrow the government then. He was part of Islamic Jihad in Egypt. Replacing one kind of tyranny with another is not an improvement. At least Mubarak could be controlled. Fanatics cannot.

As for OWS... bunch of hippies and college drop-out degenerates that have done nothing except cost the taxpayers more money every time the police have to clean up their mess, and they've achieved what, exactly?

kontact said:
Oh, and please ban me now mod. I am sick of these spineless sacks of shit you have as members. Some are OK but a lot of butt fuckers here too.
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So full of hatred. You must be a Conservative, right? Oh, whoops, can't be because you support OWS.... I guess it's OK on the Left to hate people that don't agree with you and call them names then. However, you use a term that is derogatory toward homosexuals, so that means you can't be on the Left... That leaves pretty much nothing left except an angry misdirected youth that has to lash out at people and call them names to draw attention to himself. Kid, you've got a hard life ahead of you if this is how you feel you have to treat people.
 
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