27" IPS 2560x1440 monitor~90hz <$400 FS

So I ordered one from Green-sum on Saturday, had plenty of stock. Asked him for a tracking number yesterday and in the evening, my time, he told me it was being packed and would have a tracking number for me. Wake up and check my email and now he tells me he doesn't have stock and it will be two more days before he has some. I cancelled the order, I can order from someone else. It's not the delay that bothers me, it's the "I have it in stock, it's being packed and will have a tracking number for you soon" to "sorry, oos, will be two more days" that bothers me. I know we are getting these cheap, but they should be honest about their stock and shipping times, that's all I am saying.
 
Cecil said:
You arent getting what Im saying. It is taller pixel wise then a 1920x1200 display, since this is 2560x1440. There are 1440 horizontal lines aposed to 1200 on your 16:10.
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Resolutions are given in width-by-height format. So it's taller, yes, but A LOT wider. Gives me a lot of unusable space for my work (which is very vertical). I would much rather have a 2560x1600 monitor (16:10).
 
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visionviper said:
Resolutions are given in width-by-height format. So it's taller, yes, but A LOT wider. Gives me a lot of unusable space for my work (which is very vertical). I would much rather have a 2560x1600 monitor (16:10).
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You could get the crossover one with the tilting stand, tilt it and then you'd get 2560 pixels vertical...
 
utnorris said:
So I ordered one from Green-sum on Saturday, had plenty of stock. Asked him for a tracking number yesterday and in the evening, my time, he told me it was being packed and would have a tracking number for me. Wake up and check my email and now he tells me he doesn't have stock and it will be two more days before he has some. I cancelled the order, I can order from someone else. It's not the delay that bothers me, it's the "I have it in stock, it's being packed and will have a tracking number for you soon" to "sorry, oos, will be two more days" that bothers me. I know we are getting these cheap, but they should be honest about their stock and shipping times, that's all I am saying.
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Order from dcsamsungmall. I ordered on Sunday, its already in Tennessee...
 
BB Gun said:
Mine came in today.

No dark or bright pixels. Perfect panel.
A touch of backlight bleed at top center, only due to the frame being a tad too tight there. I can make it go away by prying the frame some. Doesn't bother me so far for the price. I may take it apart and sand down the tight spot some on the bezel to get rid of it if it starts to bother me.
No perceptable tilt to the stand, although a ruler shows 1/16th variance left to right (see unboxing pics below).
There is definitely a green tint to it. I used Lightrooms neutral grey background stretched across both monitors to judge it against the Dell U2412M and kicked the green gamma down by .05 and the blue brightness up by a few percent to get it to match. Am planning on borrowing a friend's X-rite Colormunki to calibrate both.

Incredibly happy with the purchase.

Will not bother posting unboxing pics, they can all be found here.

At any rate, my desk before:
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My desk after:
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Please tell me you are going to use that sweet setup for MechWarrior Online.
 
visionviper said:
Resolutions are given in width-by-height format. So it's taller, yes, but A LOT wider. Gives me a lot of unusable space for my work (which is very vertical). I would much rather have a 2560x1600 monitor (16:10).
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Yes, which I said was the only thing better then this was a 30in 2560x1600 since thats the only size they come in, which are $1k.
 
So it seems alot of people are getting catleaps without the ability to increase the refresh much if at all. So is there any point in buying the catleaps now?
 
rudy said:
So it seems alot of people are getting catleaps without the ability to increase the refresh much if at all. So is there any point in buying the catleaps now?
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Going to pick mine now! Will report soon!
 
rudy said:
So it seems alot of people are getting catleaps without the ability to increase the refresh much if at all. So is there any point in buying the catleaps now?
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I think it looks better, and at least the stand swivels while the other one doesn't.
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Made an offer, haven't heard back from the seller yet.
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South Korea is 13hours ahead of eastern time.
 
NCX said:
The models with extra inputs will have around 18ms of input lag, quote me on it. Check some recent PRAD.de reviews of IPS panels with scaling, they all have around 18-20ms of input lag (measured with an oscilloscope) which is about 1 frame.

I have the Samsung S27A850D and measured the input lag to be around 18ms with the SMT Tool as did Vega and 10e. PRAD got 20ms for the HP ZR2440w which has scaling while the u2412 which does not has around 3ms of input lag, see the trend?
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification. I wish I would've known more about this before. Oh well, it should still be a worthy upgrade from my old trusty Dell 2405FPW. :)
 
Well alot of people say the catleap stand is flimsy, so that was why I was asking.
 
rudy said:
So it seems alot of people are getting catleaps without the ability to increase the refresh much if at all. So is there any point in buying the catleaps now?
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Yipes, I'm suddenly glad I held off to see what further ones came in like before jumping from a Dell 3007WFP-HC with time left on the warranty that's already been in my possession for years, to a Catleap 27" for the refresh rate possibility alone.
 
Yep. Ergotron Neo-flex / 3M Easy Adjust (Ergotron Rebrand, Black base) are good alternatives.

I found a Neo-flex for $10 on craigslist, supports the Catleap fine, should support the rest of them too.

If you buy the Crossover "pivot" version it has an upgraded stand.
 
GoldenTiger said:
Yipes, I'm suddenly glad I held off to see what further ones came in like before jumping from a Dell 3007WFP-HC with time left on the warranty that's already been in my possession for years, to a Catleap 27" for the refresh rate possibility alone.
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Same boat here, i'll just stick with my u2711 for now. I wanted the Catleap mainly for up to 100hz on an IPS display. Since these sellers are shipping out a different version also, which doesn't OC as well as the other, I don't want to take the chance. However, there's a third monitor that dream-seller just started selling, along with another seller, the Crossover 27Q. So definitely keep an eye out for results with those monitors
 
Catleap stand is definitely somewhat flimsy, but its not like it wobbles while I'm typing, so its at least sturdy enough for that. note though, that my desk is a beast of a desk that doesn't wobble at all. My workplace office furniture makes these dells, with really beefy stands, wobble because of the flimsiness of the desk. The Catleap stand would be an issue here only because it would continue wobbling for half a minute after I finished typing....

And note, my Catleap stand does NOT swivel. It is fixed. It may be just stuck, but I wasn't able to free it. I think it does not actually swivel by design. May futz with it later this week, may not, as its not really that big a deal.

BB
 
rudy said:
So it seems alot of people are getting catleaps without the ability to increase the refresh much if at all. So is there any point in buying the catleaps now?
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from what im seeing if you get the SE version youre good to go.
 
Z06 said:
Order from dcsamsungmall. I ordered on Sunday, its already in Tennessee...
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Yeah, I cancelled mine with Green-sum and turned around and ordered from dcsamsungmall, hopefully it ships quicker, should find out tonight once their day starts there in Korea.
 
NCX said:
The models with extra inputs will have around 18ms of input lag, quote me on it. Check some recent PRAD.de reviews of IPS panels with scaling, they all have around 18-20ms of input lag (measured with an oscilloscope) which is about 1 frame.

I have the Samsung S27A850D and measured the input lag to be around 18ms with the SMT Tool as did Vega and 10e. PRAD got 20ms for the HP ZR2440w which has scaling while the u2412 which does not has around 3ms of input lag, see the trend?
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Hah 18ms is still far lower than my current 2405 and I'll gladly take that for the extra inputs/scalar.

@Nexx - are we able to choose the SE version, or is this like luck-of-the draw/random?
 
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Since there is the option to "check for defects" it sounds a lot like binning. Does your chance of getting dead pixels go up if you don't get that service? What happens to the monitors that are found to have dead pixels? They just get wrapped back up and sold to someone who doesn't pay for that service?
 
Q270SE's have also failed to overlock. Don't buy one assuming it will work just because it doesn't have speakers. The newer logic board (2C version) apparently won't allow higher refresh rates.
 
Its all luck of the draw now. Even without the refresh rate O/Cing, its still a hell of a deal. And coming from and old 2405 WFP with a pva type panel, I should notice less lag even at the standard 60Hz refresh rate. I am just hoping for a clean panel with no defects. If i some how manage to get a 2B model, its even better. :p
 
Vengance_01 said:
Its all luck of the draw now. Even without the refresh rate O/Cing, its still a hell of a deal. And coming from and old 2405 WFP with a pva type panel, I should notice less lag even at the standard 60Hz refresh rate. I am just hoping for a clean panel with no defects. If i some how manage to get a 2B model, its even better. :p
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I was only ever interested in it for the refresh rate, since it's a downgrade for me in size and resolution otherwise :). The price didn't factor into it much for me since I already own a Dell 3007WFP-HC. It's a good deal for those without a nice monitor already though regardless.
 
So which one of these is the one to get if we need to use an LCD Arm and/or Stand?

Thinking about snagging 2 of them, and don't want to break the plastics.

Also, how do these compare to the Apple 27s" ??


I have 2x27 Apples and 1x30 dell.

If I snag these will I be disappointed ??
(For my other office setup)
 
Easiest is either the Achieva Shimians or the Crossovers. You have to do some disassembly to use the Yamakasi catleap's VESA mounts.

BB
 
Got my tracking info. Hopefully it will be here before the weekend since it is coming Fedex. Dcsamsungmall shipped less than 24 hours. Who knows, maybe I will get a 2B since he hasn't sold a lot of them like the other sellers.
 
I am hoping green-sum ships my monitor soon. I was hoping to have it for the weekend snice I am stuck on-call for my work :p
 
Green-sum offered me $1100 for 3 Catleap w/ tempered glass + speaker. Good deal?
 
Anyone got a crossover yet? Specs says up to 75hz. SOME of the new Catleaps aren't getting above 65 hz it's been reported.
 
Spidey329 said:
The reason why "known" brands can't sell this stuff for that cheap is because most known brands are marketing companies, they have high costs because you're paying for their advertising expenses (ie: Super Bowl ads, primetime TV ads, etc) associated with their brand as well as paying their brand premium. Additionally, they probably have a higher QC so they bin more products that don't pass, which runs up the costs as well (depending how they've structured their manufacturing agreement). Brand Power + Advertising + Shipping + Support Materials (English Manuals, Cool Boxes, etc) + Support Staff + Tighter Quality Control + Retailer Markup, which can be anywhere from 10-100% = $900 monitor.

All in all, these things look great for the cost. Wish I could afford a few, but right now money is tight.
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I dunno, I don't think I've ever seen an ad for NEC. Dell and HP sure - but they sell much more than just monitors too (I've never seen an ad specifically marketing their monitors). I don't deny that the operating costs are higher.... but I don't think it can possibly cost them 300%-400$ more than these Korean companies. Panels are both sourced from LG. I can't say that for sure without being able to see all of their books.. so it's a moot point I guess.
 
hv43082 said:
Green-sum offered me $1100 for 3 Catleap w/ tempered glass + speaker. Good deal?
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Works out to $367/monitor. Better price than buying individually, but it's not like it's massive savings either. Basically two tanks of gas. They're probably just passing on the shipping savings to you
 
TerraPhantm said:
I dunno, I don't think I've ever seen an ad for NEC. Dell and HP sure - but they sell much more than just monitors too (I've never seen an ad specifically marketing their monitors). I don't deny that the operating costs are higher.... but I don't think it can possibly cost them 300%-400$ more than these Korean companies. Panels are both sourced from LG. I can't say that for sure without being able to see all of their books.. so it's a moot point I guess.
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Well, when I bought my U2711 from Dell, I was very nervous about the AG coating, but needed to see for myself. After a week, I had to return it. They took it back no questions asked, paid for return shipping and gave me the full refund. No hassles at all. THAT is what that price increase gets you. And I get ads for Dell in my inbox ALL THE TIME. And all over my web browsing targeted ads, and weekly/monthly items in the mail.

So it gets you:
Guaranteed A++ panel
Cross-shipped replacement panels FREE within the first 30 days and if you are unhappy with your monitor for pretty much any reason.
No hassle full refund return policy within those first 30 days, including shipping.
Lots of advertisement.
Profit.

If you're not willing to pay for that, that's not a problem. Many are. Its what makes the world go around.

BB
 
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