Achieva Shimian QH270| $400 IPS 2560x1440 Korean Monitor

So this is the real deal then? IPS with about 100hz, more than 1080p, no input lag, decent uniformity? Well I can't afford it right now but this seems too good to be true. Wish it was matte though (don't care about the grain), I can't stand glossy. edit : did I read that correctly or is it just without AG but not glossy either?

edit : Does the refresh rate do it justice with the lack of overdrive though?
Kalston it is definitely the real deal, 27" IPS, no input lag, 2560x1440 with 70~100hz (Catleap is higher), with at least decent panel uniformity being reported by everyone so far. And prices ranging between $369 to $400 depending on model and seller. Some of us have zeroed in on the Catleap Q270 SE model (no speakers) because it's consistently getting the higher refresh rate. They are all glossy, even the tempered glass model, the tempered glass model may be plagued with dust specs so careful with that one. I'm guessing there's decent quality control on the actual panels because there hasn't been any reports of dead pixel clusters, there are reports of the occasional dead/stuck pixels but nothing that would indicate totally inferior quality control... yet.

Can the pixel refresh keep up with higher refresh and motion? Maybe to a certain degree, there was a link someone posted that had a chart comparing different IPS panel pixel response times. The Catleap & Shimian were not the best but not even close to the worst either.

Edit: found it (thank you SirHCB)

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Photobucket resized the darn pic but here's the original.

And yes it would normally qualify as too good to be true which is why this thread is as popular as it is. I'm in the same boat as you, dying to purchase one, but the play funds aren't there atm but will be within months.
 
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Okay, I'm sold. My monitor happens to be on that list and is even a tiny bit slower (by like 3-4ms).
I suppose I could always put on an anti glare filter if the glossy screen ever caused me any trouble.

Just need to gather the money and prepare my desk for this beast now.
 
Has anyone done a proper input lag test?

I don't have a CRT to do a proper test unfortunately.
 
You can remove it. Three of the four prongs holding it to the monitor were already broken during shipping, so I just broke the last one off and removed it.

If its not to much of a hassle, can you post a picture of the back without the grey plastic?
Also a picture of the grey plastic, I want to see how it attaches to the monitor.

Thanks.
 
Really dumb question: When you're "forcing" higher refresh rates what is that actually doing for you in practical terms?
 
For me, it would probably be video files playing smoothly in multiples of 24fps, so the ideal refresh rate for me would be around 72Hz or 96Hz.
 
For me, it would probably would be video files playing smoothly in multiples of 24fps, so the ideal frame rate for me would be around 72Hz or 96Hz.

Wow, it actually works like that and works well? I'd love to be able to get away with that myself.
 
I wonder about it too, but it's nice to have a peace of mind. I haven't really done extensive testing with my current monitor, the last time I messed with Powertune was when I had XP on my E5200 rig.
 
Really dumb question: When you're "forcing" higher refresh rates what is that actually doing for you in practical terms?

but what about the coolness factor? :p

actually, i'm thinking a person would probably need a beast of a system to drive 80,90,100hz at that native resolution (for gaming that is).
 
Oh, lord...I'm sitting here staring at my Dell U3011, which I do like, and I'm still considering jumping on one of these. <smack> No! Bad!

Come to think of it...has anyone compared this to a U3011?
 
Wasn't looking for a new one but... 2560x1440, IPS, possibility of up to 97 hz, $375, low input lag... when similar models are 2-3x the cost in the USA. Um... yeah, pulled the trigger on the Catleap, way too good to pass up. I'll try to do a comparison between this and my BenQ FP241W (P-MVA) when I put them in dual monitors. My poor poor 9800GT. Here's praying no dead or stuck pixels.
 
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Oh, lord...I'm sitting here staring at my Dell U3011, which I do like, and I'm still considering jumping on one of these. <smack> No! Bad!

Come to think of it...has anyone compared this to a U3011?

It's hard to compare between the two. Dell is made of a similar but slightly different panel. Dell has antiglare coating and this does not. Dell comes with tons of connectivity and OSD while this does not. Of course Dell cost a ton more but does come with 3 year advance exchange guarantee. I am in the same boat as you and might pick up one of the Catleap for that price.
 
Really dumb question: When you're "forcing" higher refresh rates what is that actually doing for you in practical terms?

Plenty of good reasons. It's smoother, both for video playback and gaming (and for gaming, it's better even when your framerate isn't equal to or above your refresh rate as it greatly reduces tearing without adding any lag like v-sync), it also reduces the sample & hold effect of LCDs by reducing the amount of time each frame stays onscreen thus resulting in a more responsive display.

Overall it's just much better. See the difference between 30 & 60fps here? http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html

Well, just imagine something even smoother than 60fps.
 
I talked to the warden (aka wife) and she agreed it was a decent purchase for a little of our tax return, so I ordered one of the Achieva's without the glass.

I don't need more than 60Hz and the Catleap stand is too tall. It's the model the OP over at OCN got and he was thrilled and it had no defects at all so I'm hoping to get the same.

Now to start digging for nice 2560x1440 wallpapers and keep an eye on NV's new cards to power this thing down the road (warden doesnt know bout that part yet but I'll find a way). :p
 
For laughs I just tried this with my NEC2490wuxi. Interestingly enough 1920x1200 @72 displayed but it looked ugly. Past that, forget it. So either there's some trick to this or that simply means my monitor can't be "cheated on", right?

If that's the case, then what is/are the differences between a monitor that doesn't allow you to boost the refresh rates vs something that does like these Catleaps and Shimians?
 
Now to start digging for nice 2560x1440 wallpapers and keep an eye on NV's new cards to power this thing down the road (warden doesnt know bout that part yet but I'll find a way). :p

When you get the GPU, put your wife's picture as your 2560x1440 wallpaper. That way she would be all impress when you tell her that you bought a new graphic card :D.
 
Catleap with HDMI for 522$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAKASI-CA...tDomain_0&hash=item3f1499678c#ht_11920wt_1396

122$ for an HDMI port...I want to be able to use my consoles but man that is a steep premium, plus if it still has input lag I am back at square 1. I can't stand the input lag on my 850D (18ms) for games which require precision aiming like Uncharted 3 and using a keyboard/mouse with vsync (I hate tearing) with PC games is even worse .

I am tempted to sell my S27A850D for a Catleap, though I do like having 1 matte and 1 glossy display, it is nice for different games/films. I thought the ZR274 which does not have a scaler worked with consoles as long as you set them to 720p so maybe the DVI only Catleap will...
 
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would love to see the back of the catleap without the stand attached.
 
Catleap with HDMI for 522$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAKASI-CA...tDomain_0&hash=item3f1499678c#ht_11920wt_1396

122$ for an HDMI port...I want to be able to use my consoles but man that is a steep premium, plus if it still has input lag I am back at square 1. I can't stand the input lag on my 850D (18ms) for games which require precision aiming like Uncharted 3 and using a keyboard/mouse with vsync (I hate tearing) with PC games is even worse .

I am tempted to sell my S27A850D for a Catleap, though I do like having 1 matte and 1 glossy display, it is for different games/films. I thought the ZR274 which does not have a scaler worked with consoles as long as you set them to 720p so maybe the DVI only Catleap will...
And to think just two weeks ago we would have considered that $522 hdmi model an absolute bargain. I wonder if the refresh can be overclocked as good as the other models.

It would be nice to get more test results posted, including consoles set to 720P.
 
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Catleap with HDMI for 522$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAKASI-CA...tDomain_0&hash=item3f1499678c#ht_11920wt_1396

122$ for an HDMI port...I want to be able to use my consoles but man that is a steep premium, plus if it still has input lag I am back at square 1. I can't stand the input lag on my 850D (18ms) for games which require precision aiming like Uncharted 3 and using a keyboard/mouse with vsync (I hate tearing) with PC games is even worse .

I am tempted to sell my S27A850D for a Catleap, though I do like having 1 matte and 1 glossy display, it is nice for different games/films. I thought the ZR274 which does not have a scaler worked with consoles as long as you set them to 720p so maybe the DVI only Catleap will...

The non HDMI models are going for $375 shipped. Not a bad deal if you get one that is flawless. Only risk being is no one knows how reliable these monitors are. I am waiting for my catleap so hopefully when i do get it, i will post some pictures up.
 
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Do any of these Catleap/Acheiva/Crossover 1440p displays have 1:1 scalers like the U3011?
 
It looks like the one NCX just posted should have a scalar, it advertises working with consoles. But it's also $150 more than the others.

The alternative if your PC is near your consoles, you could find an HDMI Capture Card and run it through your computer that way. Kind of a hack around the problem, but it would let you record the video too.
 
Do any of these Catleap/Acheiva/Crossover 1440p displays have 1:1 scalers like the U3011?

None of the cheap ones have a built in scaler, so your video card would have to do it.
 
The alternative if your PC is near your consoles, you could find an HDMI Capture Card and run it through your computer that way. Kind of a hack around the problem, but it would let you record the video too.

Whoa, does this really work? Could you elaborate a bit more on this?
 
Whoa, does this really work? Could you elaborate a bit more on this?

There are capture cards such as:

http://www.amazon.com/Avertv-Definition-Analog-Capture-MTVHDDVRR/dp/B002SQE1O0 or http://www.amazon.com/Blackmagic-De...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1330998736&sr=1-1

I had such a solution, but at this price, you might as well pick up a TV to use it with - or buy a monitor with HDMI support.

The AverTV HD DVR is limited to 720p (plays 1080i, but looks horrible). I also had issues with HDCP.

Mainly, people split the signal such that they can record it on their PC while playing on a TV/Monitor. You can imagine that such devices such as these introduce lag ~ so it is not ideal to use as the primary display.
 
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Catleap with HDMI for 522$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAKASI-CA...tDomain_0&hash=item3f1499678c#ht_11920wt_1396

122$ for an HDMI port...I want to be able to use my consoles but man that is a steep premium, plus if it still has input lag I am back at square 1. I can't stand the input lag on my 850D (18ms) for games which require precision aiming like Uncharted 3 and using a keyboard/mouse with vsync (I hate tearing) with PC games is even worse .

You can go around this problem with an HDMI switch. Hook your computers and consoles to it, and then get an HDMI to DVI cable to hook the switch to the monitor.

This switch below also output audio out for simpler routing.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2

Also, many people were worried about the absence of a scaler in the vanilla version of his monitor. The scaler only enables the monitor to run at its native resolution while accepting other resolutions. Image quality will still take a hit, with or without the scaler, especially with text, but the monitor should be able to run other lower resolutions without a scaler. I assume the image quality drop would be minimal at 720p.
 
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Ordered mine yesterday from greensum and it says the estimated shipping is Mar 20- apr 02. Thought id be getting it sooner since it said ships next day and 3-5 day ems shipping..
 
Ordered mine yesterday from greensum and it says the estimated shipping is Mar 20- apr 02. Thought id be getting it sooner since it said ships next day and 3-5 day ems shipping..

Ebay estimates are always off as far as I've seen.

I'd be pissed if he listed stuff in-stock when it wasn't though.
 
Ebay estimates are always off as far as I've seen.

I'd be pissed if he listed stuff in-stock when it wasn't though.

Oh, dream-seller does. I ordered the QH270-IPSMDP model when it was $550, and he immediately hiked the price to $750 and then told me Achieva doesn't even make this model. So, yes, there is a chance he might not have any stock on hand.
 
I ordered from green-sum, and the cheapest model.

I just checked and my shipping estimate was the same. (3/20 - 4/2)

I'll order from someone else if that's the case, I'm not very patient :p
 
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Wow, was looking at dream sellers stock, it was at 2 remaining 30 minutes ago when I went AFK, came back, hit refresh and he's back to over 10 in stock.

Anyone know what a used Westy 37" goes for these days?
 
Just wondering if anyone who ordered from Green-sum has heard anything back?

Messaged him/her yesterday. Said he/she would update the shipping information soon.

Btw: both of the ebay sellers now carry catleap tempered glass version. I wonder if it is worth it to upgrade to that one.
 
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