Sheriff's Department Has "Creep of the Week" Facebook Page

Wow, that can't be legal.

How? it's essentially is America's Most Wanted online. In fact, the term "Creep of the week" came from when the department used to have a weekly feature on a local radio station that basially announced bolo reports. They never called him or anyone else guilty, just notices that they have a warrant for their arrest.
 
Keep in mind that there is a process to the issuance of an arrest warrant. The police collect evidence and then present that evidence to an impartial person who decides if there is enough to issue a warrant. That could be a magistrate (sort of like a mini judge), a judge or in the case of an indictment, a jury of your piers. The cops can't issue warrants.
 
Just want to mention that this guy is 5'5 and 155 lbs. What girl couldn't fight this guy off? She had to be drunk or high. Also this is Alabama. If you live in that state, you should feel bad. Nothing good ever came from that state.

Just saying.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1325466/alabama_rednecks_topgear/

Most men 5'5" and 155lbs could easiy handle majority of women. If you can't you need to hit the gym.

...nothing out of Alabama? Just the last three years College Football National Champions.
Though I really couldn't care less about College football. But to make a statement like that about ANY state shows ignorance.
 
This is the way of thinking I have never understood. If you are innocent then why not stay around and prove it. By running and talking shit you just make yourself look guilty, even if your not.

Check out the Innocence Project statistics. Lots of guys in prison who didn't do it. http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com also has loads of links and further statistics on the subject.

Food for thought, False rape accusations make up somewhere between 10-60% of all rape claims. You can't really trust the low-end statistics because they only track the ones that are deemed to be "unfounded" claims, and don't even look into whether they're purposely falsified. The independent scholarly studies that do just that are finding it's a lot.

Likely source of the 2% false rape claim figure:
http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=4838


Sources of 40-60% false rape claim figures:
http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3159
http://www.americandaily.com/article/5075

"According to a nine-year study conducted by former Purdue sociologist Eugene J. Kanin, in over 40 percent of the cases reviewed, the complainants eventually admitted that no rape had occurred (Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 23, No. 1, 1994). Kanin also studied rape allegations in two large Midwestern universities and found that 50 percent of the allegations were recanted by the accuser.
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Kanin's findings are hardly unique. In 1985 the Air Force conducted a study of 556 rape accusations. Over one quarter of the accusers admitted, either just before they took a lie detector test of after they had failed it, that no rape occurred. A further investigation by independent reviewers found that 60 percent of the original rape allegations were false.
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According to a 1996 Department of Justice Report, of the roughly 10,000 sexual assault cases analyzed with DNA evidence over the previous seven years, 2,000 excluded the primary suspect, and another 2,000 were inconclusive. The report notes that these figures mirror an informal National Institute of Justice survey of private laboratories, and suggests that there exists "some strong, underlying systemic problems that generate erroneous accusations and convictions." (for those not counting that's a total of 40%)
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That false allegations are a major problem has been confirmed by several prominent prosecutors, including Linda Fairstein, who heads the New York County District Attorney's Sex Crimes Unit. Fairstein, the author of “Sexual Violence: Our War Against Rape,†says, "there are about 4,000 reports of rape each year in Manhattan. Of these, about half simply did not happen.""

More info:
http://www.mediaradar.org/research_on_false_rape_allegations.php
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/p/prevalence-of-false-rape-claims.html
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/p/informative-sources.html



Assuming the guy is indeed innocent, I can't really blame him for running. Rape claims, real or falsified, stigmatize the alleged for life, which is one of the reasons the alleged perpetrator should have their identity protected until found guilty IMO. With all this news about the guy and his Facebook hubbub, does anyone here even think for second he'll get the same kind of exposure should he be exonerated? Furthermore, if the woman is lying, does anyone really think she'd be punished for her crime? The UK is getting better about it, but here in the US it'd be laughable if it wasn't so unfunny.
 
Assuming the guy is indeed innocent, I can't really blame him for running. Rape claims, real or falsified, stigmatize the alleged for life, which is one of the reasons the alleged perpetrator should have their identity protected until found guilty IMO. With all this news about the guy and his Facebook hubbub, does anyone here even think for second he'll get the same kind of exposure should he be exonerated? Furthermore, if the woman is lying, does anyone really think she'd be punished for her crime? The UK is getting better about it, but here in the US it'd be laughable if it wasn't so unfunny.
So without letting the public know that he is wanted for possible rape how do they protect the public. I don't know about you but I sure don't want my kids around someone who could be a rapist. Do you realize how big of a law suit they would have on their hands if they knew he was wanted for possible rape and never told the public and he did turn out to be guilty and did it to someone else while waiting to be caught?

Actually if he proves his innocence he can have her charged with filing a false statement ;). Not much of a crime but maybe she will think twice before trying it again, that's if he is innocent.

To be clear though, I do NOT agree with the "creep of the week" title they are giving these people. It should be changed to something more in line with a wanted poster type of title.
 
There is a requirement to make public knowledge of who is arrested (to avoid giving law enforcement the ability to just disappear people), but making a show of it is not what they're supposed to be doing with it.
 
There is a requirement to make public knowledge of who is arrested (to avoid giving law enforcement the ability to just disappear people), but making a show of it is not what they're supposed to be doing with it.
The only one I seen making a show out of this was Dustin. The Sheriffs office posted up that he was wanted and for what, Dustin then chose to try to make a joke out of them.
 
Do you realize how big of a law suit they would have on their hands if they knew he was wanted for possible rape and never told the public and he did turn out to be guilty and did it to someone else while waiting to be caught?


There is a requirement to make public knowledge of who is arrested (to avoid giving law enforcement the ability to just disappear people), but making a show of it is not what they're supposed to be doing with it.


Both understandable concerns. The problem is that rape was declared to be a "special crime" which is why there's all kinds of restrictions regarding questioning and why the accuser has their identity protected. I posit that if it's so special for these restrictions to be in place, then the accused person's name shouldn't be dragged through the mud. Perhaps instead of restricting their name from being release altogether that the court limit the information from being presented in the media; a gag-order if you will. If someone wants to walk down to the court-house and look it up and email all their friends, fine, but at least keep the name out of the papers and off the nightly news to ensure the person gets a fair trial and isn't unfairly stigmatized by their community as a whole.
 
The only one I seen making a show out of this was Dustin. The Sheriffs office posted up that he was wanted and for what, Dustin then chose to try to make a joke out of them.

Right there is another thing: putting up the person is wanted I'm okay with, but putting up WHY they're wanted, not so much.
 
Both understandable concerns. The problem is that rape was declared to be a "special crime" which is why there's all kinds of restrictions regarding questioning and why the accuser has their identity protected. I posit that if it's so special for these restrictions to be in place, then the accused person's name shouldn't be dragged through the mud. Perhaps instead of restricting their name from being release altogether that the court limit the information from being presented in the media; a gag-order if you will. If someone wants to walk down to the court-house and look it up and email all their friends, fine, but at least keep the name out of the papers and off the nightly news to ensure the person gets a fair trial and isn't unfairly stigmatized by their community as a whole.
I agree with you if the person in question isn't running from the law. Dustin's info wouldn't have been posted up if he had just did what he was supposed to. But he didn't, he chose to run from the law. He brought this whole charade on himself.
Right there is another thing: putting up the person is wanted I'm okay with, but putting up WHY they're wanted, not so much.
I'm all for it. If I see a poster/article about a wanted person and I see it's for possible rape then I know to maybe keep my children away from him. Or if a woman sees a poster/article about a wanted person and it's for possible rape then that woman knows to stay away from said person.
Honestly would you want your kids going to someones house if that person has a warrant for possible rape? I doubt it. While it may not be true, it also could be.

I know what your getting at but to be honest I really don't think there is much you can do to keep a persons name/info out of it without putting the public in possible harms way. As police officers they are supposed to protect the law abiding citizens.
 
This is the way of thinking I have never understood. If you are innocent then why not stay around and prove it. By running and talking shit you just make yourself look guilty, even if your not.
Because we live in an unjust world. Why does a great (expensive) Attorney win cases mediocre ones lose?
Outlier example, Memphis 3?
 
How? it's essentially is America's Most Wanted online. In fact, the term "Creep of the week" came from when the department used to have a weekly feature on a local radio station that basially announced bolo reports. They never called him or anyone else guilty, just notices that they have a warrant for their arrest.

I guess what the USA considers legal and what Canada considers legal are two completely different things because I see your police pulling stunts that would not fly up here all the time.
 
I guess what the USA considers legal and what Canada considers legal are two completely different things because I see your police pulling stunts that would not fly up here all the time.
So your saying that the Canadian police don't post mug shots or names online of people suspected of committing a crime? That's what we are talking about, not other shit that police may or may not do.
 
I guess what the USA considers legal and what Canada considers legal are two completely different things because I see your police pulling stunts that would not fly up here all the time.

True, something you would expect of two different countries. But I would be interested to know what "stunts" you refer to?
 
Just want to mention that this guy is 5'5 and 155 lbs. What girl couldn't fight this guy off? She had to be drunk or high. Also this is Alabama. If you live in that state, you should feel bad. Nothing good ever came from that state.

Just saying.
metacafe.com/watch/1325466/alabama_rednecks_topgear/

Fail.

Without people of alabama, we would not have the SuperSoaker, sir..... the fucking SUPERSOAKER.

Chimon nah, don't be so ig nant round chyea
 
The cop doesn't even have the balls to reveal his real email address.... he gets to remain anonymous harrassing people, all while revealing warrants NOT FROM HIS OWN COUNTY but the another (plus, he sent more than 3 messages in one day, isn't that illegal according to the national phone spam laws?)

Either way, the cop appears to be trying to hide his name, and never reveals it right? Coward, and this appears to be highly illegal to me.
 
The cop doesn't even have the balls to reveal his real email address.... he gets to remain anonymous harrassing people, all while revealing warrants NOT FROM HIS OWN COUNTY but the another (plus, he sent more than 3 messages in one day, isn't that illegal according to the national phone spam laws?)

Either way, the cop appears to be trying to hide his name, and never reveals it right? Coward, and this appears to be highly illegal to me.

Wow okay, so have you ever used facebook? First trying to catch people with open warrants is "harassment" what should the police be doing? Second the cops are looking for someone who LIVES in their county, that makes it their responsibly whether the warrant is from there or mars. Third this guy went on the Sheriff's Office own facebook page and posted, so who exactly is spamming who?
 
Wow okay, so have you ever used facebook? First trying to catch people with open warrants is "harassment" what should the police be doing? Second the cops are looking for someone who LIVES in their county, that makes it their responsibly whether the warrant is from there or mars. Third this guy went on the Sheriff's Office own facebook page and posted, so who exactly is spamming who?

Well I cannot view facebook pages. I am going off of the picture I can see there in the first link OP posted.

I see a cop, informing a person anonymously, apparently of a DIFFERENT COUNTY'S WARRANT (this means NOT the county the cop is in, thats what I figured since thats what the Dustin guy says). Then he uses a private noname email address to contact privately with the kid, instead of [email protected], like I've seen cops usually use. Not [email protected] (not government)

My argument makes sense... sorry, I don't go to facebook so I didn't see the entire story, just what was described on this site.
 
Well I cannot view facebook pages. I am going off of the picture I can see there in the first link OP posted.

I see a cop, informing a person anonymously, apparently of a DIFFERENT COUNTY'S WARRANT (this means NOT the county the cop is in, thats what I figured since thats what the Dustin guy says). Then he uses a private noname email address to contact privately with the kid, instead of [email protected], like I've seen cops usually use. Not [email protected] (not government)

My argument makes sense... sorry, I don't go to facebook so I didn't see the entire story, just what was described on this site.

So your objection is the anonymity of the person posting? That I can understand. Please keep in mind that these facebook sites are often administered by several different people (at least that's how it's done for a business) so it shouldn't come as a shock that they use a generic screen name. And since you missed the original page the fugitives warrant information was posted on the page and then the idiot responded by taunting the police.
 
Well now that I look at the original screen shot it looks like the email is for J. Self at Jefferson County something or other. Not really all that anonymous.
 
Well now that I look at the original screen shot it looks like the email is for J. Self at Jefferson County something or other. Not really all that anonymous.

It says .org... I don't know about your state, but the big city and the shitty woodytown counties all use .gov websites.

And you are ignoring my 2nd argument on this BS... why is he reporting warrants for other counties? Isn't that their jurisdiction and jobs to report their own warrants?
 
It says .org... I don't know about your state, but the big city and the shitty woodytown counties all use .gov websites.

And you are ignoring my 2nd argument on this BS... why is he reporting warrants for other counties? Isn't that their jurisdiction and jobs to report their own warrants?

Check out the website http://jeffconline.jccal.org/ it appears to be the official county website. I didn't ignore your second point, I already answered it above. If the wanted person LIVES in their county it is THEIR responsibility to track him down. No matter where the warrant is from.
 
"innocent until proven guilty" is for the courts, cops are just assholes who only care about putting you behind bars.
 
Well I cannot view facebook pages. I am going off of the picture I can see there in the first link OP posted.

I see a cop, informing a person anonymously, apparently of a DIFFERENT COUNTY'S WARRANT (this means NOT the county the cop is in, thats what I figured since thats what the Dustin guy says). Then he uses a private noname email address to contact privately with the kid, instead of [email protected], like I've seen cops usually use. Not [email protected] (not government)

My argument makes sense... sorry, I don't go to facebook so I didn't see the entire story, just what was described on this site.


jccal.org is the Jefferson County email address. Not every governments is, or has to be .gov. You could have typed in that on a browser to see that yourself. The sheriff also gave him the option to ask questions privately through there, the kid is the one that kept it in the open, and the sheriff even advised him to not talk about the case in the open later on. The kid was just being a dumbass.
 
And you are ignoring my 2nd argument on this BS... why is he reporting warrants for other counties? Isn't that their jurisdiction and jobs to report their own warrants?

It's the Birmingham metro area, and as I mentioned before the county had a long standing deal with a radio station where they made bolo notices, so everyone who's lived in that station's range is aware of show. I wouldn't doubt that over the years they would post or announce bolo's for neighboring counties as most outsiders think it's all Birmingham anyways.
 
jccal.org is the Jefferson County email address. Not every governments is, or has to be .gov. You could have typed in that on a browser to see that yourself. The sheriff also gave him the option to ask questions privately through there, the kid is the one that kept it in the open, and the sheriff even advised him to not talk about the case in the open later on. The kid was just being a dumbass.

I agree the kid is a dumbass, but so is the cop if the kid isn't even in that county (apparently he's not even in alabama, so how could he be in that county?), and the warrant isn't from his county anyways apparently! That's a double lose for the cop.

Not to mention..... Total waste of time, and what kind of moronic cops ask someone to turn themselves in, try to fish for information, and then right when the guy start blabbing information, he cuts him off and tells him to stop talking. I thought you wanted to catch him, not act like his fucking lawyer? LOL wow. fail cop. And my taxes pay for worthless shit like that...... sigh. He's probably sitting there drinking coffee, getting fatter, and costing tax payers even more worthless money because he doesn't run, get out, and exercise like a normal cop. SO then, wehave to pay for his diabetes and health care he could of prevented if he were being a REAL COP ON THE STREET FIGHTING CRIME.
 
I agree the kid is a dumbass, but so is the cop if the kid isn't even in that county (apparently he's not even in alabama, so how could he be in that county?), and the warrant isn't from his county anyways apparently! That's a double lose for the cop.

Not to mention..... Total waste of time, and what kind of moronic cops ask someone to turn themselves in, try to fish for information, and then right when the guy start blabbing information, he cuts him off and tells him to stop talking. I thought you wanted to catch him, not act like his fucking lawyer? LOL wow. fail cop. And my taxes pay for worthless shit like that...... sigh. He's probably sitting there drinking coffee, getting fatter, and costing tax payers even more worthless money because he doesn't run, get out, and exercise like a normal cop. SO then, wehave to pay for his diabetes and health care he could of prevented if he were being a REAL COP ON THE STREET FIGHTING CRIME.

Well now the cop didn't know he wasn't in his county until billy dumbass told him right? ;)

And we don't even know if the person replying is even a cop. Just as likley to be a secretary or a warrants clerk.
 
It's the Birmingham metro area, and as I mentioned before the county had a long standing deal with a radio station where they made bolo notices, so everyone who's lived in that station's range is aware of show. I wouldn't doubt that over the years they would post or announce bolo's for neighboring counties as most outsiders think it's all Birmingham anyways.

Radio, that makes sense... but by law, he can report for other counties? THat's not radio spanning an area.. that's direct contact, just like a letter or phone call. There are laws for stuff like this. By law, cops cannot just go randomly searching other counties warrants, and reporting them all over the web..... trying (trying) to catch the bad guys
 
Radio, that makes sense... but by law, he can report for other counties? THat's not radio spanning an area.. that's direct contact, just like a letter or phone call. There are laws for stuff like this. By law, cops cannot just go randomly searching other counties warrants, and reporting them all over the web..... trying (trying) to catch the bad guys

Which law is that? No law of that nature exists to my knowledge.
 
Radio, that makes sense... but by law, he can report for other counties? THat's not radio spanning an area.. that's direct contact, just like a letter or phone call. There are laws for stuff like this. By law, cops cannot just go randomly searching other counties warrants, and reporting them all over the web..... trying (trying) to catch the bad guys

They aren't searching. They are just making a post that basically says this metro county police department is looking for this person who is wanted for xyz. This is essentially what your local TV station is doing when they run crime stoppers reports, and what America's Most Wanted did with actors.
 
So your saying that the Canadian police don't post mug shots or names online of people suspected of committing a crime? That's what we are talking about, not other shit that police may or may not do.

Not like that. Only serious known criminals get their mug shots posted in Canada. Read some of the links, seems the legality is being called into question even in police state USA.
 
True, something you would expect of two different countries. But I would be interested to know what "stunts" you refer to?

How about pepper spraying an old guy to death suffering from clinical depression? That happened in Florida recently. In Canada cops have now been told to use tasers only as a last resort because tasers can kill. Apparently, in the USA they don't give a fuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3-gtbvm9sA&feature=g-all-u&context=G2d0e46fFAAAAAAAAIAA


I can dig up all kinds of this shit if you insist on calling me out like a dbag.
 
Do you see any cop having an online conversation with any of them? Idiot.
 
Oh yea, do you see any of those people having their mugshot posted online for DUI?
 
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