Most 2012 LG TV to use IPS?

Not to rain on anyones parade but as far as lcd tv's go S-PVA (samsung/ sony, i've seen some toshibas/other brands with s-pva panels too, the light ag coating gives away that it is a samsung VA panel) especially those with the wide gamut ccfls (way more common a few years ago) is the best IMO. , local dimming led is also great but those are way too pricey. Another problem that has happened is that many S-PVA panels have been replaced with c-pva, and other va techs which IMO have worse view angles. The key to VA is getting a good quality matrix arrangement. My biggest problem with IPS is that the glow is absolutely unbearable in a tv application. Of course none of these things truely compete with a plasma which for tv's is superior. Unfortunately plasma's don't look good in bright store demo areas and this definitely hurts its impression on consumers.
 
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blackhand1001 said:
Not to rain on anyones parade but as far as lcd tv's go S-PVA (samsung/ sony, i've seen some toshibas/other brands with s-pva panels too, the light ag coating gives away that it is a samsung VA panel) especially those with the wide gamut ccfls (way more common a few years ago) is the best IMO. , local dimming led is also great but those are way too pricey. Another problem that has happened is that many S-PVA panels have been replaced with c-pva, and other va techs which IMO have worse view angles. The key to VA is getting a good quality matrix arrangement. My biggest problem with IPS is that the glow is absolutely unbearable in a tv application. Of course none of these things truely compete with a plasma which for tv's is superior. Unfortunately plasma's don't look good in bright store demo areas and this definitely hurts its impression on consumers.
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I thought that TV content was encoded in sRGB. What would be the advantage of a wide gamut TV when displaying sRGB content? I would think that it would display oversaturated and inaccurate colors.

 
powruser said:
I thought that TV content was encoded in sRGB. What would be the advantage of a wide gamut TV when displaying sRGB content? I would think that it would display oversaturated and inaccurate colors.
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Yes unless it uses deep color which has extremely limited available content on Blu-Ray or common digital media (if any) then it's 8-bit per primary, so it's wide gamut plus oversaturated colors. Pretty much useless.


I think HDTV is Rec.709/BT.709 which is almost identical to sRGB in gamut and uses D65 as the white point temp.

Skakruk said:
The 55EM9600 is the real point of interest in that link.

Damn LCD to hell.

1.10 minutes of halting Engrish has never sounded sweeter.
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How come he says "oRed" but he can say "picture quality" properly? Sometimes Engrish, sometimes English :)
 
blackhand1001 said:
Not to rain on anyones parade but as far as lcd tv's go S-PVA (samsung/ sony, i've seen some toshibas/other brands with s-pva panels too, the light ag coating gives away that it is a samsung VA panel) especially those with the wide gamut ccfls (way more common a few years ago) is the best IMO. , local dimming led is also great but those are way too pricey. Another problem that has happened is that many S-PVA panels have been replaced with c-pva, and other va techs which IMO have worse view angles. The key to VA is getting a good quality matrix arrangement. My biggest problem with IPS is that the glow is absolutely unbearable in a tv application. Of course none of these things truely compete with a plasma which for tv's is superior. Unfortunately plasma's don't look good in bright store demo areas and this definitely hurts its impression on consumers.
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Yah, I agree totally, except that back when I bought my S-PVA Samsung, plasmas had 60Hz flicker and I am more sensitive to that than most people. If I had to replace my TV now I would go with the Panny Viera for sure.
 
blackhand1001 said:
Not to rain on anyones parade but as far as lcd tv's go S-PVA (samsung/ sony, i've seen some toshibas/other brands with s-pva panels too, the light ag coating gives away that it is a samsung VA panel) especially those with the wide gamut ccfls (way more common a few years ago) is the best IMO. , local dimming led is also great but those are way too pricey. Another problem that has happened is that many S-PVA panels have been replaced with c-pva, and other va techs which IMO have worse view angles. The key to VA is getting a good quality matrix arrangement. My biggest problem with IPS is that the glow is absolutely unbearable in a tv application. Of course none of these things truely compete with a plasma which for tv's is superior. Unfortunately plasma's don't look good in bright store demo areas and this definitely hurts its impression on consumers.
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I disagree. I think IPS still wins hands down. Sure the blacks are better and on some IPS you get the glow, but the viewing angles and colors compared to Panasonic Vieras or LGs IPS TVs aren't even close. Panasonics even have better input lag, but the only problem is they don't have 4:4:4 chroma subsampling, but the LGs do.
 
xcrico said:
I disagree. I think IPS still wins hands down. Sure the blacks are better and on some IPS you get the glow, but the viewing angles and colors compared to Panasonic Vieras or LGs IPS TVs aren't even close. Panasonics even have better input lag, but the only problem is they don't have 4:4:4 chroma subsampling, but the LGs do.
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You are right about IPS and wider viewing cones, but some VA viewing cones aren't "as bad" as others. And when you are sitting in that sweetspot, the overall picture/contrast on higher end VA models look great imho.

Full array + local dimming are icing on the cake as usual, but it is with IPS as well, like the LG xxLH90 for instance, that TV was a hit with reviewers and owners.

We need more IPS models with full array + local dimming imho.
 
Bad news. They can switch to IPS when they can get native contrast >2,000:1 w/o dimming or dynamic contrast features and eliminate glow, until then LG should only use IPS panels in their low end displays and eliminate the VA lottery.

So now people are going to be paying large amounts of $ for LG branded TV's which will barely be better than a cheap IPS/PLS monitor, but then I guess those buying large IPS TV's for non-PC related use over a Panny plasma likely won't have any clue about what they are actually buying.
 
TBH whilst IPS is good for colour accuracy and response time / input lag... For the purpose of a TV it is SERIOUSLY lacking contrast ratio and black depth and for that reason it is a poor choice for a TV set....

For a PC monitor (considering currect options) you want an IPS screen but for a TV you want a sony/samsung SPVA panel or a Plasma tbh....

IPS black levels @120cdm2 = ~ 0.12
Sony/Samsung SPVA @ 120cdm2 = ~0.04

IPS typical contrast ratio = 900:1
Sony/Samsung SPVA = 6000:1
 
daveswantek said:
Yah, I agree totally, except that back when I bought my S-PVA Samsung, plasmas had 60Hz flicker and I am more sensitive to that than most people. If I had to replace my TV now I would go with the Panny Viera for sure.
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Also panny viera 2011 plasmas flicker A LOT - The reason I didnt buy a 2011 panasonic plasma is the damn flicker...
 
Hmmm have to see what the 2012 plasmas are like... The 2011 ones still had a fair amount of bugs and problams afaik
 
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