NOD32 or SAV 2012 ?

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Ok, my NOD32 2 year/3PC license expires in 13 days, and it's time to make a decision.

If you go by a lot of what you read in "reviews' out there, NOD32 is slipping, and SAV is picking up steam.

If what I am reading is accurate, SAV was completely re-written and symantec is now the best, fastest and least invasive product?

But of course you can read the exact opposite if you look hard enough.

Shit, I don't know. What do you guys think?

SAV is actually a bit cheaper. It doesn't appear ESET is giving huge discounts for renewers.

If SAV is the one to have, just get antivirus or get internet security?

3 years ago I wouldn't bother to crap on a SAV disk.
 
As a longtime Eset reseller.....I'm tired of their "decline" in effectiveness..and we've been moving many our our clients away from Eset.

Symantec did do a ground up rebuild of their product a couple of years ago....I recall reading their new antivirus engine only used 8 megs of RAM. And it's detection/cleaning rates have been superb for a few years now (just look at av-comparatives.org)

I don't know how well their business management product/console is these days. I used to sell/install a lot of Symantecs Corporate Edition since the version 5 days...up til about version 10.something. I do recall a lot of cursing out of the product when doing push installs/push upgrades got corrupted on the workstation end...requiring tons of tedious manual removal.
 
I use MSE on my VM's, but want something stronger on my main desktops.

Cat - Your post reflects pretty much what I'm seeing out there. ESET is dropping the ball, Symantec is picking it up.

Maybe it is time for a change. I'll wait to hear a few others first.

And I won't be using MSE other than on my VM's, but thanks guys :) I DO wish it worked on WHS though like it's advertised!
 
Yeah for home desktops/laptops....and even small business clients of <10x desktop only PCs...I'm perfectly happy with MSE. I have NFR reseller licenses for Eset and Symantec and others...but I'm good with MSE for home.

Now for servers...I don't have an answer for free. Suppose for a home lab though...can risk flying naked..depending on what you run the servers for.
 
We just switched to Sophos and it seems to work reasonably well, albeit the footprint is higher than some other AV's (6 processes and about 14mb ram). I like it much more than Trend and a hell of a lot more than Symantec.
 
We've been moving clients to Vipre. SAV/SEP is much improved but the management console is still garbage. I've been impressed with Vipre so far. We're not selling much ESET these days....
 
It's really a shame the ESET ship has sunk so fast. Damn.... I guess they rode on their reputation only for too long :(
 
SAV at customer site, McAfee on corporate machines, MSE at home... Formerly used NOD but MSE is free, lightweight and effective as far as I can tell so I switched.
 
Captain Colonoscopy said:
We've been moving clients to Vipre. SAV/SEP is much improved but the management console is still garbage. I've been impressed with Vipre so far. We're not selling much ESET these days....
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Vipre here as well on our 48 workstation system Management console is 'stupid' easy to use and push out systems

I did how ever have one heck of a problem when i updated to a new version a few months back it basically killed about 14 systems in that the NIC just died, i had to uninstall the NIC and software and re-install to get it to work again because of the module they install, wasn't happy.

But otherwise has been well, catches things good, from what i have seen.
 
We just moved our business (150+ PC's) over to Kaspersky. Couldn't be happier with it ... Of course, we left Trend Micro, so the bar wasn't very high.
 
Ok, decided to give Vipre a try. The reviews are good, and their support seams excellent. Hell, they will even log in remotely and remove a virus FOR FREE if their product doesn't do the job.

And they are having a special. Buy one year, get one free. Got a 10 workstation license for 2 years for $59. Way better than I would have done with NOD32 or SAV.

Fingers crossed :)
 
Captain Colonoscopy said:
We've been moving clients to Vipre. SAV/SEP is much improved but the management console is still garbage. I've been impressed with Vipre so far. We're not selling much ESET these days....
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When did they improve, we left it last sprint as SEP 11 was shit and caused a lot of issue.

jtr8178 said:
We just moved our business (150+ PC's) over to Kaspersky. Couldn't be happier with it ... Of course, we left Trend Micro, so the bar wasn't very high.
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MrGuvernment said:
trend micro has gotten that bad?
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Jay_oasis said:
Really bad. That's what we moved away from.
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What issues have you been noticing? We left SEP for TrendMicro last year, I haven't been noticing anything wrong with it. Hasn't killed every computer like SEP did every other day.
 
The version 12.1 CLIENT is much better at detecting and blocking infections. I'm still not a fan, I remove it and replace all the time. I was just stating that it's BETTER than it used to be.
 
Captain Colonoscopy said:
The version 12.1 CLIENT is much better at detecting and blocking infections. I'm still not a fan, I remove it and replace all the time. I was just stating that it's BETTER than it used to be.
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dropped it before 12 came out. got tired off all the damage it was doing to our network. I know that trend isn't killing out computers, guess I can't really say how well it is doing actually keeping us protected. haven't noticed too many things get by it yet so it seems to be doing ok so far.
 
We had such bad luck with testing Kaspersky. It's a shame I wanted it to win. Had a demo of Trend Micro.. Was pretty impressed
 
YeOldeStonecat said:
As a longtime Eset reseller.....I'm tired of their "decline" in effectiveness..and we've been moving many our our clients away from Eset.

Symantec did do a ground up rebuild of their product a couple of years ago....I recall reading their new antivirus engine only used 8 megs of RAM. And it's detection/cleaning rates have been superb for a few years now (just look at av-comparatives.org)

I don't know how well their business management product/console is these days. I used to sell/install a lot of Symantecs Corporate Edition since the version 5 days...up til about version 10.something. I do recall a lot of cursing out of the product when doing push installs/push upgrades got corrupted on the workstation end...requiring tons of tedious manual removal.
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What are you moving your clients to instead of eset?
 
YeOldeStonecat said:
As a longtime Eset reseller.....I'm tired of their "decline" in effectiveness..and we've been moving many our our clients away from Eset.

Symantec did do a ground up rebuild of their product a couple of years ago....I recall reading their new antivirus engine only used 8 megs of RAM. And it's detection/cleaning rates have been superb for a few years now (just look at av-comparatives.org)

I don't know how well their business management product/console is these days. I used to sell/install a lot of Symantecs Corporate Edition since the version 5 days...up til about version 10.something. I do recall a lot of cursing out of the product when doing push installs/push upgrades got corrupted on the workstation end...requiring tons of tedious manual removal.
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They did redo it from the ground up but they screwed it up in so many ways for 11. One release if you started a computer up and logged in as a non admin it would block all network traffic, fix was to log in as an admin first then log out and have the non admin user log in. Another version decided that go2assist was evil since it wasn't PCAnywhere i guess and decided that the program was black listed. many version had issues where it would tell users that "a risk was detected while this computer was not logged into" or something like that, the fix was Symantec was to turn off all notices to the end user that any risk was ever found on their machine. I was told for about 8 different issues to "fix" them by turning off functionality. Toward the end there the last 3 releases I used before I dumped them 7 months before my current contract was up had an issue where if a computer was left on for more than 20 hours it would use up all the memory in the system, cause it to stop responding network traffic and peg the cpu at 100%. "fix" for that was to modify the registry to set the max usage of your paging pool to 60%
 
We are currently just finishing our "upgrade" to SEP11. We use USB blocking and a bunch of other stuff. The console is a POS and doesn't work right half the time and it's just annoying and painful to use. The clients run fine, it's just the managing and whatnot that's a pain. Our contract is up here in April so we are kinda looking towards Forefront.
 
I never had any problems with the management side, only the client side of SEP. Wanted to try forefront, but I spent a week trying to get it up and running for a trial and kept running into different issues so just gave up. hated that I couldn't just install one program and be done with it, have to install system center and get that configured, then install the forefront server on top of that... between SQL 2008, System Center and Forefront one of them would give me a bunch of errors, hopefully you have better luck. could just be that I was missing something or it didn't like me trying to use a trial version of all the different programs (SQL 2008, System center, forefront)
 
So far no issues with Vipre. Don't even notice it's there, which is the way it should be :)
 
swatbat said:
What are you moving your clients to instead of eset?
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We got a MSP package, N-Able. The AV option for N-Able is called EndPoint Security..which is based on the Panda engine.

Panda itself is quite good with detection and cleaning..we're finding it's doing better than Eset did at the current rogues, the past few weeks of logs show it bagging XP Antivirus 2012 a lot.

It will admin, default settings.it's a tad on the heavy side..default settings will bog down older H/T p4 w/512 meg systems. Although not many people left running that old stuff. Dual cores with 1 gig of RAM minimum and it does fine.

It's a good approach to getting N-Able services in at our clients...start with the AV.
 
YeOldeStonecat said:
Panda itself is quite good with detection and cleaning..we're finding it's doing better than Eset did at the current rogues, the past few weeks of logs show it bagging XP Antivirus 2012 a lot.
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We have McAfee, and I think it's holding the frickin' door open :(
 
So far so good. Don't even know it's there, which is exactly the way a good little AVP should act :)
 
BONUS !!!

Viper installs fine on Windows Home Server 2011 :)

Glad I got the 10 license version!
 
I find this to be an interesting discussion from an admin point of view and would like to see an open discussion from other admins on what's working for them. I still have over a year left on the nod license for our primary company but also tiring of the same old things slipping through.

I see malwarebytes is working on a corporate edition. Might be worth a check when it comes out.
 
gigsakos said:
i'll suggets you NOD32 i've use it for long time without any problem... also i sell it from my website hotoffer24.com for good price
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This seems legit!

I got some ocean-front property for sale here in MN.
 
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