Fresh news off the rumor-block: HD7xxx in mid-Jan 2012, 2048sp for 7970XT, more.....!

Lorien said:
I keep hearing the 7970 (or whatever it ends up being called) is projected to be slightly slower than a 6990. As always, take that with a grain of salt.
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I'll take 2 ....

Going to have 2 6970's and a 6990 with Koolance waterblocks for sale here real soon if these are almost as fast as a 6990.....
 
In my experience if you're lucky enough to find the cards in-stock on the release day they're usually for sale at msrp. It's only when the retailers get more in stock that they jack up the price.

That being said, I may try and get 2 7970s on release day. I imagine they'll have a decent stockpile at launch but they may be slow to trickle in afterwards once the initial stock runs out.

Anyways, I'm just talking from my past experiences these 20 or so years in buying components. No hard evidence. ;) I always want to wait-and-see and then end up kicking myself when stock is low and prices go shooting up.
 
phinix said:
How faster top card (7970) may be to previous/current card, if I may ask?
Just a prediction, I know there are no specs out...
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580 vs 7970 30% or so faster
but that is pure speculation.
maybe amd sent out flawed cards that was limited.
they try to minimize the leaks.
 
Lorien said:
Well, Newegg's black friday sale had a brand new HD6970 for $289 after rebate and it sold out rather quickly. I don't know how much stock retailers have leftover but I'd be willing to bet they would want to get rid of it before the new products launch. So the answer is yes.
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If the 6950/6970 are discontinued and the 7950 is >$400, that would leave AMD in a bad position. They would have no product in the $200-$400 price range until 7800 launches (in February?).
 
Are they going to fire their driver programming monkeys and hire humans instead? Want to be excited over their new cards, but Dear God after my final driver clusterfuck with them I am hesitant to even consider ATi.
 
Funny you say that when the majority of all AMD graphics card users have no problem at all. You're just not seeing us post complaints unless it's something as simple as "oh fuck those developers for not sending a copy of the game early to AMD for driver verification".

(Yeah, I like to think that non-overclocked single-card systems with healthy hardware, no bloatware and a decent PSU are the majority)



Possible front image of a 7950 on beyond3d, 384bit memory, two six pin PCIEs.
 
Lorien said:
I keep hearing the 7970 (or whatever it ends up being called) is projected to be slightly slower than a 6990. As always, take that with a grain of salt.
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That's pretty much what happened with the 6970, right? It was a little slower than the dual GPU 5970.
 
ddarko said:
That's pretty much what happened with the 6970, right? It was a little slower than the dual GPU 5970.
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No, I wouldn't stretch things that far. The 6970 ended up being 25 to 30% slower than the 5970. But you have to keep in mind that a large part of that deficit is due to the cancellation of the 32nm node which would have allowed Cayman (6970/50) to pack more SPs at higher clocks in the same die size. This time around we are leap frogging that node shrink all the way down to 28nm so the transistor density will go up as well as clock speeds. Not to mention the all new architecture which you could say is the big unknown variable in the equation.
 
What kind of performance step-up can I expect going to 7000 series from a 4890 1gb? I game at 1920x1200 and like full options/AA.
 
probably a huge one but im speculating

so is the bus 256bit and its GDDR5 right not the rambus xdr2?
 
Lorien said:
Haven't posted in a looong while so I'm just gonna drop this here:
Click this for a 3Kx2K shot of the Engineering Sample sticker


youdidntseethis.jpg


P.S: There are 12 memory chips, the last one is between the PCI-e interface and the GPU, which confirms a 384bit memory bus. It is also 8x6 pin which means high end HD7xxx. Enjoy. Discuss. Flame. :)
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Nice. I'm fucking loving the Lockness/Sasquatch grainy photo effect. It most def adds to the mystery. :)
 
Dethred said:
Are they going to fire their driver programming monkeys and hire humans instead? Want to be excited over their new cards, but Dear God after my final driver clusterfuck with them I am hesitant to even consider ATi.
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well I am sure you can always go use Nvidia I mean after all they are sooooo much better, right.

A) released drivers on 2 seperate occasions that were directly responsible for frying their own cards
B) built hardware knowing that there would be issues later on (Laptop discrete video cards anyone?)
C) Helping dvelopers with generic DX code and then locking out ATi cards


yeah liike thinks are sooooooo much better on the other side......

Besides those driver writing monkeys have a solid committed to release once a month WHQL drivers.......
 
Everyone keeps quoting "12" memory chips and I see 11. Where is the 12th?

@Yeu: You pretty much sum up why I find it weird that people praise nvidia drivers in comparison to AMD. They both make mediocre drivers.
 
I'm itching for an upgrade. The only games my 5870 can push in eyefinity is TF2 and Minecraft. Some Skyrim or BF3 in eyefinity would rock. 3Gb 7970 here I come!
 
I'm more interested if they come up with a cooling solution that doesn't sound like my vacuum cleaner..
 
Kaori said:
I'm more interested if they come up with a cooling solution that doesn't sound like my vacuum cleaner..
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I got the accelero cooler for my 6990 and even at 100% it is now quieter than my 800d case fans. They put the shitty coolers on, on purpose so you will buy the refresh card or buy the aftermarket cooler. Its part of the freaking racket to ninja your wallet year round.
 
DOOMHAMMA said:
Everyone keeps quoting "12" memory chips and I see 11. Where is the 12th?

@Yeu: You pretty much sum up why I find it weird that people praise nvidia drivers in comparison to AMD. They both make mediocre drivers.
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So there should be another green rectangle near the top, between the heatsink bracket.
 
l88bastard said:
I got the accelero cooler for my 6990 and even at 100% it is now quieter than my 800d case fans. They put the shitty coolers on, on purpose so you will buy the refresh card or buy the aftermarket cooler. Its part of the freaking racket to ninja your wallet year round.
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Glad to hear the accelero is quiet. I just built a new system and the 6990 fan is killing me.
 
Who's buying four 7970's at launch, we should make our own club! :eek:
 
Vega said:
Who's buying four 7970's at launch, we should make our own club! :eek:
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4 really? do you think they will fix 4-way cfx scaling, last i checked only 3 way marginal benefit of > 0.
 
I'm in for three...threeways are way better than foursomes anyway..........





















































wait wut
 
Vega said:
Who's buying four 7970's at launch, we should make our own club! :eek:
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Two for sure at day one. Hopefully we will have some newegg, tigerdirect, etc links like we had for the 5970 release day. Also we need a leaker for a confirmed release date so I can be "sick" that day :)
 
I will buy one at launch and most likely another one down the road.
Hopefully, drivers performance and stability will be more than acceptable at launch.
 
Mr Mean said:
Two for sure at day one. Hopefully we will have some newegg, tigerdirect, etc links like we had for the 5970 release day. Also we need a leaker for a confirmed release date so I can be "sick" that day :)
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If the benchmarks are good and price is reasonable, I, too, need a release date. I also plan on taking some time off from work. ;)

ApeXiTT said:
Who knows if this is legit but this is the performance i would imagine coming from this next gen.

http://www.ozone3d.net/public/jegx/201112/amd-radeon-hd7970-benchmark.jpg
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This has been confirmed to be fake, unfortunately.
 
Mr Mean said:
Two for sure at day one. Hopefully we will have some newegg, tigerdirect, etc links like we had for the 5970 release day. Also we need a leaker for a confirmed release date so I can be "sick" that day :)
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Hah ya, I bet when the first 7970's hit the online retailers they will be gone within a few minutes. Nothing like taking the day off to keep pressing F5 on retailer sites! I wonder how much places like Newegg are going to gouge the early adopters.
 
Vega said:
Hah ya, I bet when the first 7970's hit the online retailers they will be gone within a few minutes. Nothing like taking the day off to keep pressing F5 on retailer sites! I wonder how much places like Newegg are going to gouge the early adopters.
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They won't on release day, because of the competition. If the cards are available en masse from several retailers they'll all stick to MSRP just to get the sales. You might even see a few sell $10 or so short to attract more customers. However, after the first batch goes and they have to wait for more stock, yeah, Gouging, USA :p.
 
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