Thermaltake Air Cooling... Looking for feedback

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Many of you im sure have seen a Thermaltake cooler offering, possibly many and may have even used them at one point or maybe many times. Please tell me about your experience, feel free to let us know anything you would like to see, implemented, changed, improved, etc.

let us know how we can make it better for you.
 
I'm still sporting my Big Typhoon VX, though its starting to show its age after 5 years of using it. fan died a long time ago on it and replaced it with a noctua fan which has extended its life. only downside to the big typhoon VX is that the 3 right heat pipes sit on top of the far left stick of ram.

i kind of miss all the crazy and weird designed heatsinks TT use to release though.
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
I'm still sporting my Big Typhoon VX, though its starting to show its age after 5 years of using it. fan died a long time ago on it and replaced it with a noctua fan which has extended its life. only downside to the big typhoon VX is that the 3 right heat pipes sit on top of the far left stick of ram.

i kind of miss all the crazy and weird designed heatsinks TT use to release though.
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Yeah as need for higher thermal load has increased we have had to make larger fin arrays and fan sizes to compensate. Unfortunately that cuts out some of the ability to make some of the extreme designs of the past but as many will see there is still ways we personalize the coolers of make them different so that its not just another silver tower cooler.
 
Also using the Big Typhoon VX, on an AMD 720 core unlocked and running 3.45Mhz. It's on its second fan (Folding@home for the equipment kill!) and works very well. I agree about the memory slot issue, but can get away with Ripjaws and just a little contact...
I'd love to see effort made toward a decent cooler in the 120/104 size to replace the typhoon, and would really love to see some type of easy to clean fin array. Mine is a dust collector to the point of needing a cleaning every other month.
 
*opinion warning*
I honestly cant stand the products, they are made to look flashy and given childish names, i always thought the quality and performance was sub par, ans somehow associated them as rebranded parts. It seems like it is marketed to a teenage demographic. The products do pop up at all major retailers CC, BB, etc, and these guys mark up the prices of cheaper TT coolers by quite a bit bringing them up to prices of more expensive products. I would not spend my money on them for my own projects or the projects i do for my clients at this point (i have in the past when i was in a pinch and that was all i could get locally) It would be hard at this point to win me over.
 
Pitbull said:
*opinion warning*
I honestly cant stand the products, they are made to look flashy and given childish names, i always thought the quality and performance was sub par, ans somehow associated them as rebranded parts. It seems like it is marketed to a teenage demographic. The products do pop up at all major retailers CC, BB, etc, and these guys mark up the prices of cheaper TT coolers by quite a bit bringing them up to prices of more expensive products. I would not spend my money on them for my own projects or the projects i do for my clients at this point (i have in the past when i was in a pinch and that was all i could get locally) It would be hard at this point to win me over.
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Which product are you referencing here? I see alot of generalizations but I am more than willing to work with this but I need to know which product are your referencing..

Subpar performance: (which product)
Childish design: (which product)
Childish name: (which product)
rebranded?: (which product)

I would like to know which products these are so I can help correct how you are getting this image.

BB carries our black widow line which is exclusive to BB so all of the black widow line you will see there and there alone.. but they are Tt products just the line that is in BB
 
imo you guys should be creating some new low profile and high end coolers to try and get a better name for yourselves here in Australia.

People are preferring to use the CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ CPU Cooler for something cheap but powerful in terms of cooling for mid-end.

For the low profile i suppose the aim would be to create something that can do better than the stock cooling but still be cheap and be able to handle a small overclock.

The high-end preferences would have to be the Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU Cooler or the Noctua NH-D14 CPU Cooler. If you can create something that can compete with the others of the same price range with the same or better cooling then you'll get more people buying your coolers :D
 
reaper_1994 said:
imo you guys should be creating some new low profile and high end coolers to try and get a better name for yourselves here in Australia.

People are preferring to use the CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ CPU Cooler for something cheap but powerful in terms of cooling for mid-end.

For the low profile i suppose the aim would be to create something that can do better than the stock cooling but still be cheap and be able to handle a small overclock.

The high-end preferences would have to be the Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU Cooler or the Noctua NH-D14 CPU Cooler. If you can create something that can compete with the others of the same price range with the same or better cooling then you'll get more people buying your coolers :D
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Competition for the first have you looked at the Contac series?

for the upper end as you say we are right at the heels of those coolers with the Frio series at a reasonable pricepoint but there will be more to see soon.... how soon I cant say exactly but I hope sooner rather than later.
 
Well i'll take that as this is all feedback I can get on this particular subject? If so thats ok we can move on to another, I just want to make sure I can help make something better for you guys
 
I'll have an ask around and see what people in Australia think. I have an account on www.overclockers.com.au so yer.

From me though, what I have said above covers everything I can think of :D

Edit: I have just put a thread up here.

A Thermaltake rep has a thread on HardOCP about their products here

What ever is said here will be quoted on there if I feel a comment is appropriate and helpful to them
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We have a lot of replies all of a sudden lol

My first aftermarket air cooler was a Tt Blue Orb Fx, Great on my E8400 @ 4g and now on my sons Q9550 @ 4.2
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I think that one of Thermaltake's big problems is that it doesn't do a whole lot of design checking before selling stuff. As a result, they get a reputation for having a few really good products (the original Big Typhoon springs to mind) and a lot of rubbish. Compare to Intel, which has a reputation for having a few bad products (eg. Pentium-D) and a lot of excellent ones.

The results of this can be seen when the companies release a new product.

Intel releases a new CPU/chipset/SSD - everyone buys it because there's a 99% chance that it'll be great. No need to check reviews first; Intel knows what they're doing.

Thermaltake releases a new heatsink - people who are attracted to lights buy some. Everyone else says "it's a Thermaltake, so it'll be much more noisy than the label says, and cooling performance won't be great". After a month or two there are some reviews saying that it's actually pretty good, and then everyone starts buying - unless of course Thermalright or another company with a better reputation has caught up in the mean time.

Same with power supplies. Some of Thermaltake's PSUs are good now, but in the past they were generic units with a Thermaltake label and a power rating far in excess of what they could hope to provide. That makes it really hard for the 'good' models to actually get a decent position in the market. Even if Thermaltake PSUs are now as good as the Corsair HX series (no idea if this is the case) and $20 cheaper, people will keep buying the Corsairs because they're definitely good.

Essentially, Thermaltake needs to ask, before releasing each product, "is this actually a good product, or is it a heap of junk?" If it is a heap of junk, it should not be released. If this means that Thermaltake is only releasing five excellent heatsinks each year rather than two thousand useless ones and five excellent ones, is that really such a bad thing?
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I had a thermal take armor mx (mid tower) gaming case a few years ago on my first pc build, i was fairly newb then and loved the whole bling bling.

grew up a few years later and went Lian li.

but my experiences with the armor mx can only be described as horrible.
the case was $153.00 which is still a fair bit of money.

Problems - PCI had plastic tooless clips that held the video cards and other pephirals in, these snapped after a a while

Side panel had a hinge clip system which you would push and it pops out, This function also snapped after a few uses.


after that i upgraded to the Fractal R2 and I gave the case away for free on some unlucky ocau member.

So with that experience I have pretty much boycotted thermaltake as a brand of choice.
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bring back the awesome water cooling orientated cases
and please give us a V9 with a black interior and cable management without a HDD dock on top like the older ones
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I hope this helps you :cool:
 
They make a range of acceptable coolers, just nothing that appeals to me personally. The price : performance, cooling capability, noise level, and appearance usually isn't within my design parameters or needs.

Right now we have companies producing heatsinks for the high-end crowd, the budget-minded crowd, the silence-oriented crowd, and then those for the appearance crowd. I usually buy from the high-end/silence/combination of the two areas, which none of TT's products have ever really met for me. Pushing products further into those two areas would possibly get more sales from me, depending on how they performed. Right now the cooling market is quite competitive in high-end and silence, so it's going to be a tough market to break into without something extraordinary. It may be worth it, though. Take a look at the TRUE and it's offspring. Still selling strong after how many years? ;)
 
And some more from yesterday and last night

I have had a T-Rad2 on my XFX 4870 for 2 years now and it's GREAT! Relatively Quiet; and dropped my GPU core temp 20c+ minimum. Still performing great to this day. Unfortunately they have stopped producing them and a lot of cooling manufacturers have backed off video card cooling...
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the "20c+" is in degrees Celsius

and last one for now

Not CPU related but they should make the USB 3.0 ports on their expensive "Level 10 GT" case better quality, first week owning it and the plastic insert detached when removing a usb stick, needless to say I wasnt going to RMA the case after installing everything just for one usb port but it was damn disappointing.

They also can't put their sticker branding on straight (why use stickers on a $300 case?)

At least the case cooling is great but I wouldn't go and buy a Frio OCK after my initial disappointments.
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RealityCrunch said:
Curious why he mentioned the T-Rad2, since it's a Thermalright product.
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hmmm.... so it is lol

I should have seen that. My bad

Edit: and just seen this posted 15 mins ago

Edit 2: the post was updated and now edited here to suit and some more comments for you guys :)

Have a ThermalTake V9 case, FRIO cooler and a toughpower xt 875w.

V9 case I have had issues with the top fan, which is an issue with alot of people who own the same case.
FRIO is an amazing cooler. have my 920 OC'd to 4.1 ghz and the hottest my CPU gets is 75 degrees (except on a really hot day)

The Toughpower XT was an upgrade as I was a little nervouse running a Ritmo or whatever crap from MSY to power my baby.

AAAnd,. ThermalTake Battle Dragon Bag
Great Side bag, very good quality zips and looks cool, not too mention can carry alot of stuff to lan nights

>Also, I have a ThermalTake Xaser iii skull case wich had the flashy skulls at the front, though recently the skulls stoped working and won't light up anymore, if any ThermalTake reps that read this, PM me if you might beable to get yours hands on one for me.

Though For the Frio, would have been nice if the Fan speed controllers had a nice place to clip into the Cooler itself or came with some case bracket to mount.. I have mine currently sitting between the rubber fan clips into the Heat sink, though they fall out all the time which sucks and they are not long enough to place externally, So i have to open the side of my case whenever I want to change the speed. Though really loud at 2500rpm, I have mine sitting around 1800, not stupidly loud, yet still fast for good air flow.
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What I did with my V9
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Already bought some black enamel spray paint for when I upgrade my mobo, will give it a nice coat. That Stainless colour looks crappy.
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That is all from me today :D time for some sleep :cool:
 
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Just curious, is any of this going into meetings to be considered like more/better CPU coolers, engravings instead of stickers on the "Level 10 GT" case and hand out to reviewers???
 
reaper_1994 said:
Just curious, is any of this going into meetings to be considered like more/better CPU coolers, engravings instead of stickers on the "Level 10 GT" case and hand out to reviewers???
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All of this is not going for a loss, we take feedback seriously and it helps us with current and future products to point them in a direction that would be better and you would like to see.
 
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