Steam Hack Confirmed By Valve

Glad that the only card I had on my account is an old expired one. Changed my password and hopefully that's all I have to do for this.
 
So people aren't allowed to express relief because Valve responded quickly and apologetically to the hacking, but are also not allowed to condemn Sony who responded slowly, had NO safeguards in place, repeatedly changed its story in an attempt to cover up the incident and its impact, refusing to give an unconditional apology to its customers and blaming the incident on earthquakes and communists?

The fanboys are definitely not all coming from Valve's side of the fence...

I like Valve and have over 120 games on Steam, but you gotta call a spade a spade. They messed up, no matter how much they apologize. Considering they are probably the biggest PC distributor out there, yeah, that's a big problem.

Shows that haters just like to hate on Sony.. and bat a blind eye to their platform of choice. They both rank the same in my eyes in how they handled the problem. Data loss is data loss, who knows what they could be covering up? Just like Sony.
 
Sigh.. Sony came out about it, so did Valve.. one gets praised the other burned to the ground. Fanboyism at its best.

:rolleyes:

How about you try reading even the summary? Note the following:

This database contained information including user names, hashed and salted passwords, game purchases, email addresses, billing addresses and encrypted credit card information. We do not have evidence that encrypted credit card numbers or personally identifying information were taken by the intruders, or that the protection on credit card numbers or passwords was cracked. We are still investigating.

This is *extremely* different from Sony's hack because in the case of Sony the intruders actually got useful information. Sony, the bunch of dumbasses they are, stored that shit in plain text. *IF* what Steam is reporting is true, then there really isn't much to worry about. The important parts, password and CC info, remain uncompromised.
 
I was banned from steam message boards not that long ago for mentioning game pirates having old abandonware games like willy beamish anyway.

So ya fuck you valve im happy you got hacked.

Hack away guys gee I wonder who could have done it.
 
:rolleyes:

How about you try reading even the summary? Note the following:



This is *extremely* different from Sony's hack because in the case of Sony the intruders actually got useful information. Sony, the bunch of dumbasses they are, stored that shit in plain text. *IF* what Steam is reporting is true, then there really isn't much to worry about. The important parts, password and CC info, remain uncompromised.

I know how to read, thank you. I like how you guys are eating this all up like whatever they say is the truth. How about we all just wait and see the true damage? Seems like you guys are quick to defend Valve in any way. I'm still skeptical.
 
Funny, and now you're on the receiving end this time around and seem butthurt that people are putting Sony and Valve together, they both got hacked. Same crap different pile. They both could have done better, I don't give a damn how timely Valve is "perceived" to be. They both need to be held responsible and fanboys not just yourself, make me lol hard.

Umm... WTF are you talking about? I said I wasn't mad. At all. Because it can happen to you and me just as fast as it happened to Valve and Sony. Nobody or nothing is impervious. There's no magic internet security formula. There's no magic online security blanket you can pull over your head while you suckle your thumb.

My point is that Sony didn't tell anyone for nearly a month what was going on. The hackers were posting people's personal info all over the internet and sharing it while Sony kept saying it never happened. That's unacceptable to me.

Valve in 3 days or so diagnosed what the problem was and let us know what information was breached. That's what I expect from a company that I deal with that gets hacked. Acknowledgement of the problem, exact information on what personal information was stolen, and an apology.

If you think that the internet is secure and safe for all then you're delusional. Heck spell a word wrong in a url and you're subject to being exposed to a ton of spyware. But yet you're sitting here telling me that I'm a fanboy and should be up in arms because Valve got hacked.

Sorry not mad at all. Just hoping that they figure out where it came from. If accepting that there are new security holes in software run on servers makes a fanboy then sign me up! I guess our expectations are different on the subject matter. No need to address you again on this subject.
 
Those who didn\'t get emails your provider may have simply dropped them if Steam did a massive email list, many provider drop emails and block delivery if the failure rate is high (usually around %10 or so)

So dont just up and get mad at steam assuming they didnt email you, i got the email and a notification when i logged into steam
 
Is there a way to change your password from the site? I'm away from home and dont have access to any system with Steam installed...
 
I don't think I had any CC info saved on either of my Steam accounts, but where do I check to be sure?


Put a game into your basket. Continue on to purchase for myself. It won't buy it until you confirm. If the next page asks you to confirm without entering any CC info it, it's saved (and it will show the last 4 digits). If it asks you to put CC info in, you're good.
 
Put a game into your basket. Continue on to purchase for myself. It won't buy it until you confirm. If the next page asks you to confirm without entering any CC info it, it's saved (and it will show the last 4 digits). If it asks you to put CC info in, you're good.

Thanks, looks like I'm 2 for 2 on not saving CC info (steam & PSN)
 
I don't know if steam has my CC, if it does it was an old expired card
 
Don't worry if you forgot your account username or password you can download the database from Piratebay like the Playstation users did
 
I am not worried - unlike Sony, Valve had hashed and salted passwords and encrypted credit card information.

Even basic currently used encryption cannot be broken without use of supercomputers. More complex encrytion is currently perfectly safe agains anyone except NSA.

 
I am glad they came out with information. I changed my password to something more secure :)
 
I tend to use unique email aliases for most online services I sign up for, and judging by the spam I get, the ones which have been hacked (at least for user email addresses) are:

Test Drive Unlimited
Lord of the Rings Online
Age of Conan
Champions Online
Bioware
 
I am not worried - unlike Sony, Valve had hashed and salted passwords and encrypted credit card information. Even basic currently used encryption cannot be broken without use of supercomputers. More complex encrytion is currently perfectly safe agains anyone except NSA.
that's you. How many noobs have crappy passwords that with regardless how much you spice it and how much it was encrypted with what encryption it doesn't take em long to crack it.
 
Are you sure encrypted data is safe? I'm pretty sure hackers have ways to decrypt it.

Unless hackers have access to supercomputers, they dont have even fraction of resources needed to break even encryption which is currently available for free.

 
Unless hackers have access to supercomputers, they dont have even fraction of resources needed to break even encryption which is currently available for free.


Well, bothers are analogous to supercomputers, and once anyone has their hands on the DB it's pretty much public... So it's certainly not inconceivable. Improbable maybe, we really don't (and won't) know the full extent of what they got and to what degree it was protected, so anything's possible.
 
Wasn't it that in Sony's case, the hackers actually managed to get the password and credit card info?

Here, Valve had those info encrypted so even though they got into their system, all they saw was encrypted info.

Sony's info was encrypted too.
 
Changed my password, email, email's password, and gonna cancel the card that's tied to the account tomorrow. Not taking any chances with this.

In related news, Gabe Newell, still fat.
 
I like Valve and have over 120 games on Steam, but you gotta call a spade a spade. They messed up, no matter how much they apologize. Considering they are probably the biggest PC distributor out there, yeah, that's a big problem.

Shows that haters just like to hate on Sony.. and bat a blind eye to their platform of choice. They both rank the same in my eyes in how they handled the problem. Data loss is data loss, who knows what they could be covering up? Just like Sony.

You're assuming Valve is covering up the true extent of the damage. If you are correct, then Valve's handling of the incident is almost as bad as Sony's; if not, then Valve "wins" I suppose.

It can't be overstated how pathetically arrogant Sony acted during and after the entire thing, especially Howard Stringer. No remorse was shown at all for complete incompetency and abuse of customers' trust, and pointing the finger and everyone and everything except the company he represents.
 
Meh, I can't remember off hand (and can't check at work) if Steam asks for the CCV number, but the number on the front of my card isn't a lot of use without that. Even if it was, the card I have on file with them expires at the end of the month anyway. Any 'card not present' charges that go through without the CCV are the bank's problem, not mine.

Coupled with the fact I have steamguard enabled and my steam password is 10+ characters of alphanumeric nonsense, I'm not going to lose any sleep over this.
 
I am not worried - unlike Sony, Valve had hashed and salted passwords and encrypted credit card information.

Even basic currently used encryption cannot be broken without use of supercomputers. More complex encrytion is currently perfectly safe agains anyone except NSA.
Depends on the particular encryption setup.

If they used asymmetric crypto and the box that decrypted the things to pass them onto the credit card companies was kept very seperate from the web frontends then things are probablly pretty safe.

OTOH if they used symmetric crypto and the attackers got a hold of the web script that does the encryption.

Encryption is only as strong as whatever protects the decryption key!
 
Maybe we'll get... FREE HATS!

Probably wont get anything. With the PSN it was because it was offline for a month, so noone could play multiplayer games. With this its just some forum which <3% of steam users even know exists. You can still buy games and play them.

Probably would be something like this. Valve don't really have that many games that are worth more than $5 any more...other than portal 2.
 
As the Spy would say: "Well, this is a disappointment!".

This is the second big security incident involving Valve, one would suppose they would have learned the lesson and tightened the security, specially because now they have far more valuable stuff to guard than the source code of an unreleased game. Oh well, time to change Steam passwords and maybe cancel the CC used in my last acquisitions.
 
Like someone said above, there's a good chance your internet provider blocked the email and/or marked it as spam. So check your spam/junk main folder. You will also get the message when you shut down and restart steam. (Find the icon in the system tray, right click on it, choose Exit Steam.[i'm way from my gaming pc, but I think thats what it says] Then restart it.)
 
Spell the word "Illuminati" backwards. You get "itanimullI."

Now, go to www.itanimulli.com .

:eek:

It also almost spells itanium...

Which leaves ulli...which is the code for Pulkovo Airport

We must travel there and find out! Or it's a code for the new Pulkovo itanium CPU range...:eek: (intel always uses place names for things, e.g. sandy bridge/ivy bridge) which the new world order goverment will be using to haxor our steam logins and private infos! Seriously these will decrypt anything in 0.1 seconds! :eek:
 
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