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Origin is garbage and I don't have to own or play bf3 on pc to know that.I have zero problem with you not wanting to buy a game. Just don't call something Garbage when you have never used it.
It's like the definition of pornography "you know it when you see it". I have no desire to split up my gaming library between Origin and Steam, I would like all of my games to remain on Steam. It is garbage because Origin isn't new, it's the same shitty EA DM (EA Download Manager) that has been around for a few years and rebranded as Origin to launch it into the mainstream consciousness. It was shitty before it was called Origin, it's shitty after it's called Origin.
No Steam, no sale.
Origin is garbage and I don't have to own or play bf3 on pc to know that.
Origin is garbage and I don't have to own or play bf3 on pc to know that.
I figured consoles were the lead platform as soon as they announced different DLCs for different retailers, held Back to Karkand hostage for money unless you were willing to buy the game before release, and then insisted that the community was too stupid to have mod tools.
Those behaviors all seem to be habits of console-centric games these days.
Case by case, depends on the production. I would not generalize.It's cheaper, easier, and faster to release for console.
On the other hand, it's nearly impossible to tell the difference between a kick, a disconnect, and a game crash, when the game has no 'In-Game' menu to fall back to. And... the promised settings and loadout customization outside of sitting around on the battlefield like an idiot? Still not there.Im personally loving the web based browser launcher, people who are complaining are just afraid of change. its great that I only have to open firefox, click my saved battlelog tab and away I go.
Im personally loving the web based browser launcher, people who are complaining are just afraid of change. its great that I only have to open firefox, click my saved battlelog tab and away I go.
On the other hand, it's nearly impossible to tell the difference between a kick, a disconnect, and a game crash, when the game has no 'In-Game' menu to fall back to. And... the promised settings and loadout customization outside of sitting around on the battlefield like an idiot? Still not there.
Change is great. Change solely for the sake of change is not.
Agreed. BF3's UI is the worst tech regression of 2011, followed closely by Ubuntu's 11.10 UI.Change is wonderful, if properly executed and implemented. However, regression and violating the KISS principle is not.
Front page, really?
[...]but in mid-production we switched to console as lead platform to make sure we could get all the versions done for release
Re-read it...in mid-production, they had to prioritize the consoles in order to get them ready for release. But instead we'll have 7+ pages of moaning because DICE didn't priortize the PC 100% of the time.
And yes, I totally see the connection between a web based browser and consoles...wait what?
They had a hard time getting it to work on consoles.
This is actually a PC port for a change lol.
whats the big to-do about Origin?
BF3 downloaded fast. Installed fast. Updated fast. Boots fast.
I don't get it?
Why is this a surprise? It's economics. A game maker cannot make a profit making a game for PC.
Why is this a surprise? It's economics. A game maker cannot make a profit making a game for PC. Consoles is where the money is and for a game maker to even survive, that's what they has to focus on first. Don't know why some PC gamers seem to be insulted by this. Nothing to get insulted about. We should be thankful that the game makers are including us PC gamers at all. The game makers have to make a buck like everyone else or they go down the tubes and everyone loses. Myself I'm thankful that I still get to play good games on my PC (and there is a lot of them no matter what Hardocp says). I just get the game and play it, I could care less if it's console or pc first, I don't get into it. I just play for what the game is and still have a hell of a lot of fun doing it (or else I'd just stop).
It's attitudes like that about being "grateful and thankful that they even think about us PC gamers" are what allows the companies to sell us these half assed console ports. They know we'll buy anything, in that, we're probably no different than the console crowd.
However, there will be those of us who choose to abstain from buying games from companies that do not want to put the PC gamer first and will instead vote with our wallet for those who do.
100% AGREE!
Changing focus to consoles, which are another name for a 5yr old computer, does nothing more than take 5yrs worth of progress back. Face it, consoles are old and inferior PC's.
I've taken up classic hobbies like gardening and house upgrades since PC games have progressively went to crap.
Anyone who's played games over the past decade can recall a time with games told as much of a story as any book and played well enough to be caught off guard while enveloped in their reality. While graphics have gotten better overall if you use 1995 as a marker, their overall enjoyment have declined severely.
It's attitudes like that about being "grateful and thankful that they even think about us PC gamers" are what allows the companies to sell us these half assed console ports. They know we'll buy anything, in that, we're probably no different than the console crowd.
However, there will be those of us who choose to abstain from buying games from companies that do not want to put the PC gamer first and will instead vote with our wallet for those who do.
Why is this a surprise? It's economics. A game maker cannot make a profit making a game for PC.
I've been using EADM/Origin for three years. Let me tell you it is A LOT better now. More stable, faster speeds, much better designed over-all, better menu set up, a few real options in the options menu, and so on. Origin is just as good as Steam is now. I like Steam's over-all layout and feature set better, but Origin works just as well.
Luckily Dice didn't have enough time to wreck the game enough to make it undesirable. Glad that decision was made later in the development stage. Any sequels or expansions will most likely be console based. We might not get that many patches and upgrades though now. Their focus is now officially consoles.
I do not support being forced to install Origin to play BF3 and I bought BFBC2 and had a shitty experience playing with that game. It's not really my style of game after all, but hey, I was just like you guys, I bought BFBC2 after hearing everyone rave about it, I played the BFBC2 beta (cause I preordered). I didn't expect the pile of crap on release day that I got.
That soured me on EA/DICE.
I'm glad someone has some commonsense. Since when does redefining a new "lead platform" mean leaving everything else to f***all? It would make sense that if they focused on PC development from the start, they would have to focus on console development at some point to get them up to speed. Anyone who's played BF3 on the PC instead of sit on forums and bitch can clearly see the effort that went into its PC development. Hell, it's the first multiplayer game with Crysis-level graphics that runs extremely well. And what do the consoles have? ~720p @ ~30FPS with oodles of texture pop-in? Some of you are bitching about the development time it took to create that?Front page, really?
[...]but in mid-production we switched to console as lead platform to make sure we could get all the versions done for release
Re-read it...in mid-production, they had to prioritize the consoles in order to get them ready for release. But instead we'll have 7+ pages of moaning because DICE didn't priortize the PC 100% of the time.
And yes, I totally see the connection between a web based browser and consoles...wait what?
I can still not figure out how people screwed up Origin this badly. Day one I downloaded BF3, loaded the browser-based Battlelog in Chrome (maybe that's half your problem), and joined a game. The only problem I ever had was the server list not refreshing, which was easily fixed by hitting "Home" and re-entering. This was officially fixed in two days anyway. I've never had a bad start-up, a crash, or any kind of failed load. And I've played a ton of BF3 over the last week. Sometimes I wonder what sort of shape some of you keep your comps in.Is that why the Origin client usually takes at least 3-4 tries before it will actually load properly?
And when it does load, the initial info page is always screwed up.. tries to go to a non-existant site.
Once the client finally loads properly, it works fine.. but having to fight with it is a huge pain.
What about the Origin store? It has been a complete mess the past few weeks.. Going slow, not loading, not letting me log in.. not letting me reset my password.
Oh, and the chat support is very iffy.. the first person I tried to talk to gave me a few lines of what was obviously something that was copy/pasted and had nothing to do with what I was asking about... and then they said.. "have a nice day, goodbye" without even letting me respond or making sure my issue was resolved.. which it wasn't.
The second person was a lot more helpful.. but waiting 30 minutes (twice) to get ahold of online chat is completely unacceptable.
Or people could just wait for any excuse to bash BF3 to justify getting MW3, which I imagine is what half of you are waiting to do. I find it funny that a lot of the people bashing BF3 play MW3 for the same reasons they're bashing BF3 for. MW has been the same game since 2007 and still people keep forking over more money to buy it again and again. It's truly amazing. And no wonders decent PC developers like DICE are few and far between - why deal with the headache and bitching of never satisfied whiners when you can just dish out the same old crap on consoles over and over and make twice the money?I agree. I didnt like the feel of BFBC2 and now I hear BF3 is more of the same. BF3 beta was meh. I cant wait for MW3.