CCENT/CCNA [H] study group

Well at least you'll save time not driving to the testing center with the combined test. Then again, if they have free donuts and coffee like the one I go to (along with a cute receptionist) maybe you won't mind the extra trip.
 
Almost done going through CBT Nuggets for ICND2. Have probably 2 or 3 hours left to cover. Really not bad. I think as long as I dot my i's and cross my t's, I've got at least a degree of comfort. The command requirements and background haven't been bad, and I'm already pretty comfortable with ACLs, NATing, VLANs and EIGRP.

Timing works out; according to amazon, my order for the 3rd ed of the 640-802 Cisco Press guides should arrive on Wednesday. Will spend at least 2 weeks reviewing changes and testing myself. Need to spend some quality time and make sure I'm down on the glossary for sure, and fill in any gaps I find on the Do You Know This Quiz, review the commands from all the miscellaneous other protocols covered. There's a lot of material, but it doesn't get too deep which should help. I can definitely see how the CCNP tests might get hairy as the details get fleshed out and the problems become more contrived or otherwise nuanced.

Looking at maybe taking ICND2 end of Nov or perhaps sometime early / mid Dec. When I'm ready - not in a rush. Am thinking though I intend to and to some extent already am utilizing skills covered in CCNP so I do intend to follow up CCNA with that. That's later though.
 
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Almost done going through CBT Nuggets for ICND2. Have probably 2 or 3 hours left to cover. Really not bad. I think as long as I dot my i's and cross my t's, I've got at least a degree of comfort. The command requirements and background haven't been bad, and I'm already pretty comfortable with ACLs, NATing, VLANs and EIGRP.

Timing works out; according to amazon, my order for the 3rd ed of the 640-802 Cisco Press guides should arrive on Wednesday. Will spend at least 2 weeks reviewing changes and testing myself. Need to spend some quality time and make sure I'm down on the glossary for sure, and fill in any gaps I find on the Do You Know This Quiz, review the commands from all the miscellaneous other protocols covered. There's a lot of material, but it doesn't get too deep which should help. I can definitely see how the CCNP tests might get hairy as the details get fleshed out and the problems become more contrived or otherwise nuanced.

Looking at maybe taking ICND2 end of Nov or perhaps sometime early / mid Dec. When I'm ready - not in a rush. Am thinking though I intend to and to some extent already am utilizing skills covered in CCNP so I do intend to follow up CCNA with that. That's later though.
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Sounds like you should be fine for the ICND2 after reading the book and a little review. Good luck!

And I agree on the quick push to CCNP... it is the path I chose as well. With a CCNP comes another tier of jobs (increased pay) that are not available with an NA... it is definitely a distinguishing certification that the NA may not necessarily be. I found the route test, the only test I have taken, much more difficult than the ICND1/2, but not out of the realm of passing with a couple months of study.
 
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Sounds like you should be fine for the ICND2 after reading the book and a little review. Good luck!

And I agree on the quick push to CCNP... it is the path I chose as well. With a CCNP comes another tier of jobs (increased pay) that are not available with an NA... it is definitely a distinguishing certification that the NA may not necessarily be. I found the route test, the only test I have taken, much more difficult than the ICND1/2, but not out of the realm of passing with a couple months of study.
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Yeah, makes sense really. CCNA feels like they take you to the buffet and walk you around a lot of the offerings, letting you sample various things while in CCNP you really get to throw down on it. So many times in the nuggets ICND2 vids Cioara would mention how such and such isn't covered until CCNP, etc.. Meat and potatoes stuff.
 
I will be doing my CCNA soon and have a pair of 1841 routers at home (long story)

I know that serial interfaces such as the T1-WIC and working with these is an important part of the CCNA, does anyone know what WIC is needed for the 1841?

Thanks
 
Does anyone have ICND1/2 Packet Tracer labs, I've found a few online but they only cover some of the stuff.
 
I really need to get back on track with the CCNA... I've watched CBT Nuggets several times and two books covering the material, I just need to study hard and find the cash for a test...
 
For my 2 x 1841s do I need 2 x HWIC-1T 1-Port Serial Wan cards for ccna / ccnp?

up to to now I have..

2 x 1841 (one is in use as my main firewall at the moment, may upgrade the ASA to SP and use that though)
2 x WIC-T1 modules (no back to back cable yet)
2 x 3560-48 (L3 switches)
2 x fiber transceivers and a standard 1m LC to LC
1 x ASA 5505 firewall edition (no trunking on this one sadly
 
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Nice! What made you decide to take SWITCH before ROUTE? I guess I just assumed most people took them in the R-S-T order.
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I wanted to have a solid layer 2 understanding before I went on to layer 3.

I guess I am following the OSI model.
 
Jay_oasis said:
For my 2 x 1841s do I need 2 x HWIC-1T 1-Port Serial Wan cards for ccna / ccnp?

up to to now I have..

2 x 1841 (one is in use as my main firewall at the moment, may upgrade the ASA to SP and use that though)
2 x WIC-T1 modules (no back to back cable yet)
2 x 3560-48 (L3 switches)
2 x fiber transceivers and a standard 1m LC to LC
1 x ASA 5505 firewall edition (no trunking on this one sadly)
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Will I need anything else?
 
I think you'll want at least 3 switches and 3 routers. Maybe 4 routers, one for frame relay routing. Your 1841's are awesome routers.. I'm def jelly there, ditto the L3 switches. Not sure, as for the 1841 you might need hwic 2t or something. The routers I have use the older WIC cards.

Right now I've got 2 2651xm's, 1 2650xm, 1 2950, 2 3550, and a 2924XL (rarely used), on top of my APC PDU and MRV InReach terminal server,etc. Sorry for pic quality. An extra router would be nice for the frame relay stuff. I've also played around with GNS3 a bit for other stuff. Highly recommended, although sometimes slightly cumbersome.

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This thread has inspired me to get back on the horse, with all of this. Some good info here, too.
 
I've done the cbt nuggets I and II and am going through the official INCD I & II books/packet tracer labs, I'm deployed in afghanistan so i have a lot of routers and switches to play with. But they don't like me messing with the network infrastructure. the virtual tests are pretty decent, The good ones have explanation and a lot of those questions come straight from the exam, I've had good luck with A+ NET+ SEC+ the dumps i studied were almost the same as the test and i blew through them with ease, as soon as i get back to the states i'm testing out, If you're going the CCNP route i would recommend really knowing the material since it's more lab oriented from what i heard.
 
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examcollection dot com has INCD 1 and 2 and ccna dumps that are pretty valid, It's definitely worth a look before you test. I've done the cbt nuggets I and II and am going through the official INCD I & II books/packet tracer labs, I'm deployed in afghanistan so i have a lot of routers and switches to play with. But they don't like me messing with the network infrastructure. the virtual tests are pretty decent, The good ones have explanation and a lot of those questions come straight from the exam, I've had good luck with A+ NET+ SEC+ the dumps i studied were almost the same as the test and i blew through them with ease, as soon as i get back to the states i'm testing out, If you're going the CCNP route i would recommend really knowing the material since it's more lab oriented from what i heard.
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Dump sites that get material straight from the exam are cheating and if you get caught you face mean penalties. Serious dude, read the books and learn the material and don't post shit about dump sites in this thread.
 
First, thank you for your service. Second, I agree with Langly.

Know the subject, not the test.
 
I would think another 1841 and 3560 will be out of the question. What else is worth sticking into the lab?
 
Jay_oasis said:
I would think another 1841 and 3560 will be out of the question. What else is worth sticking into the lab?
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Those are both top-notch, you don't need more of either. I'm a fan of the 265{0,1}XM routers in terms of capabilities to price. They should suffice through CCNP. Should be able to snag a good one for 75-130 on ebay. As for switching, just toss in a 2950. You've already got two really nice L3 switches. 2950s are super cheap.

Also get a bunch of WIC2T's. :) (edit: or whatever cards you need to service 2-4 serial ports per router.)
 
You know you can download IOU and L2IOU, right? You don't necessarily have to use the Learning Labs. Also, it's got some issues, just like Dynamips. Switching theoretically works, but people are having issues with etherchannels and other random stuff. Definitely a nice tool though.
 
Just a bit of basic subnetting... look correct to me but I have a way of fooking this stuff up for some reason

Class C (255.255.255.0 or /24)

Network: 217.151.6.0
Needed: 50 networks

Find Subnet for 50 networks

128 64 32 16 8 4 2 1

255.255.255.0 or 11111111.1111111.11111111.00000000

For 50 networks

50 in binary = 00110010 or 6 bits

255.255.255.?

11111111.11111111.11111111.11111100

11111100 = 128+64+32+16+8+4 or 255-3 = 252

Subnet for 50 hosts on class C = 255.255.255.252

Find reserved bits / Find Increments

111111111.11111111.11111111.11111100 = reserved bit / Increments =4 (128 64 32 16 8 4 2 1)

Find Networks

217.151.6.0 --> 217.151.6.3
217.151.6.4 --> 217.151.6.7
217.151.6.8 --> 217.151.6.11
etc.

How many networks are actually available in total?

2 to the power of subnet bits = 2 to the power of 6 = 64

or

1 2 4 8 16 32 64 <-- 6 bits!

How many hosts per subnet and in total?

2 to the power of empty bits (zeros in the binary subnet) - 2 (can't use first or last IP in the range!)

2 to the power of 2 = 4
4 - 2 = 2
2 hosts per subnet

Total hosts = 2 x 64 = 128
or number of available IPs per subnet x number of networks

so

217.151.6.0 --> 255 with at least 50 networks needs a 255.255.255.252 subnet, it will actually give you 64 subnets in total with 2 usable IPs per subnet and 128 usable IPs in total.


Just a quick question.. anyone here ever used a host IP address ending in 255 or 0? :D Thats probably the strangest thing I have got from subnetting (class B / A)
 
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Damn, my 640-802 Cert Library 3rd Edition has been pushed back yet again. Estimated delivery, Dec 14. Ridiculous.
 
does the CCNA use the new version of the ASA NAT setup?

on ICND1 it talks about conf ig RIPV2 but does it also mean config the certs etc and passwords for RIPv2? You can seup RIPv2 without passwords.
 
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I don't think you have to worry about certs for RIP, but you should probably know about the passwords. Pretty easy though. With RIP its more important to understand who it talks to and what a RIP broadcast contains and how auto-summary works and why you'd want to use it.

As far as the books, the 3rd editions have these updates (via CiscoPress.) Nothing huge, but I want the new versions rather than the old. In the meantime I'm using a borrowed copy of the 2nd edition so I don't have to stop my studies in the meantime.

ICND1 Book:
This new edition has been updated to refresh the content, add new exercises, and enhance certain topics that are key to understanding for success on the CCENT and CCNA exams. The IP addressing topics have been rewritten and re-organized to mirror proven techniques to learn both the concepts and the specific pieces of the subnetting puzzle. In addition, the TCP/IP and OSI Networking Models chapter was also completely updated and rewritten.
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ICND2 Book:
This new edition has been updated to refresh the content, add new exercises, and enhance certain topics that are key to understanding for success on the CCNA exams. Chapters on VLSM, route summarization, and IP access control lists have been completely revised. In addition the book contains new practice exercises for all three of these topics to help reinforce the concepts and increase computation speed for exam preparation
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Package in general:
This new edition also includes a free copy of the CCNA Network Simulator, Lite Edition, complete with meaningful lab exercises, which help you hone your hands-on skills with the Cisco user interface for routers and switches.
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Vito_Corleone said:
You know you can download IOU and L2IOU, right? You don't necessarily have to use the Learning Labs. Also, it's got some issues, just like Dynamips. Switching theoretically works, but people are having issues with etherchannels and other random stuff. Definitely a nice tool though.
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Yeah, I know. Its where I got IOU from, so I'm sourcing it from there.
 
Time to trim down my lab! I need recommendations on what to keep and sell, as I really need to focus on getting started on my CCNA this winter.

Current gear:
Switches:
Cisco 3550
Cisco 3500
Cisco 2950-12
Cisco 2950-24
Cisco 2950T-24

Routers:
Pix 515e
CIsco 881w
Cisco 1760
Cisco 1841
Cisco 2610
Cisco 2620
Cisco 3620
Cisco 3640

AP:
1230G
Addon cards:
Wic 2T
3x Wic 1dsu T1
2x Wic 1dsu T1 V2
1FE2W
Async 32a with cable

All of these have stock ram (except the 881 and 1841) and I would like to sell the unnecessary gear to max out the remaining. I will be doing my CCIE next and have about 20 other switches/routers still to test and sort through. What would you keep? Sell? Thanks!



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Planning on CCNA/NP/IE. Sorry, terrible head cold.

Looks as though I should swap out for some 2600XM series, ditch the 3620 as the access router and use the 2620/10. My 3640 could be my frame relay, and ect. Found out my 3550 is dead :(
 
Good idea. Skipping the NP is usually a bad idea.

As for hardware, 3640s and 2600XMs are solid for a CCNP/CCIE lab. 3725s are a great choice as well, if you're looking to pick anything else up. 3550s are solid for the NP. For the IE, you can get by with them and books, but a couple 3560s would be ideal.
 
I was thinking about getting at least one 2960 for now, but I will check out the 3560's. Thanks!
 
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